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UFO mystery as miners unearth 'ancient flying saucer' sky-watchers claim is from outer space

Good example of a cloned story :D

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Proof of alien life? One of the excavators with the 'UFO'

Do these intriguing images show a UFO that fell to Planet Earth from outer space thousands of years ago, embedding itself deep in the ground?

The bizarre flying saucer-shaped object was dug up during excavation work by a coal mining company in Siberia's Kuznetsk Basin, Russia.

Archaeologists, were called in to examine the 'craft', which the excavators believe is a man-made object, describing it as a "mystery".

However, sky-watchers are convinced it fell from space.

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The truth is out there - or is it? The object is shaped like a saucer

The unusual object is almost perfectly circular, with a diameter of around 1.2 metres and weighing roughly 440lbs - that's 31 stone.

Excavator Boris Glazkov, 40, who found the object, said: "I have to say it wasn't hard to see as it was really distinctive and large.

"I've never seen anything like this object, which is obviously man-made out, here in the middle of nowhere before. It is a real mystery."

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Heavy stuff: The object weighs around 440lbs - 31 ston

His colleague, Arthur Presnyakov, 38, said: "There were actually two similar objects, but the first one broke as it was being pulled out of the ground by the excavator bucket.

"We thought we saw something sure, because it broke into pieces, but then when the second one appeared we stopped work and carefully removed it from the bucket."

The Kuzbassrazrezugol mining company, which owns the object, said it had been pulled out of the ground at a depth of around 40 metres.

Given that it was embedded so deep underground, it could be older than mammoth bones, which have been discovered in the area at a depth of 25 metres.

Watch the clip dubbed the most convincing UFO footage yet:

Scientists declined to comment further while the investigation is ongoing.

But web-users have their own ideas.

OliPokro20 commented: "It doesn't look man-made to me. Why on earth would a human create such a weird object and bury it so deeply?

"I think it must have come from outer space."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/ufo-mystery-miners-unearth-ancient-5115853

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBhoF0YAZgc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBhoF0YAZgc

I will move this to OOPARTS later but let it run its course

This is a pirfect example of a story that has endless identical clones

and the spin doctors are hard at work... listen carefuly how you are told its an alien space craft..

And the won't show you the broken one :D

Comments: 

James Fleming:  Mmmmmm why not show the broken one so we can see the inside!

Haggis Lamb:   That might reveal too much like ancient advanced technology or not fitting the "official" chronological line.

OliPokro20 commented: "It doesn't look man-made to me. Why on earth would a human create such a weird object and bury it so deeply?

The object looks like a mill stone used for grinding cereal grain.

my first impression was a potters wheel..

Quote from: zorgon on February 08, 2015, 08:15:27 AM
The unusual object is almost perfectly circular, with a diameter of around 1.2 metres and weighing roughly 440lbs - that's 31 stone.

If that's right, how big is that guy, 3 metres tall?  ???

I also wonder why they do not at least show the reverse side, so as to be able to compare the features of both sides. No mention of material construction. 120 feet deep is pretty deep. I would expect that further excavation at that depth might reveal other "man-made objects" of another "lost/unknown" civilization! :)

;D  I like this guy  ;D




http://skeptophilia.blogspot.com/2015/02/a-miscalculation-of-scale.html


Saturday, February 7, 2015



   
A miscalculation of scale



In the first pages of Stephen King's book The Tommyknockers, a woman out walking her dog in rural Maine stubs her toe on an object protruding from the ground, and when she kneels down to see what it is, she sees that it is a curved bit of metal that can't be pried loose.  It seems to extend indefinitely as she digs away the loose soil around it.

It turns out to be [spoiler alert] the upper edge of an enormous spaceship that crash landed on Earth millions of years ago, embedding itself nose-downward, and eventually being buried by geological processes until only a little bit of it was above ground.

Kind of an interesting mental picture, isn't it?  A spaceship collides with Earth, only to be rediscovered by archaeologists or paleontologists (or random people walking their dogs) ages later.  It does, however, bring to mind Neil deGrasse Tyson's comment about the Roswell incident: "A super-intelligent alien species knows how to cross the galaxy, but then they can't even land the damn spaceship?  If they're that incompetent, maybe they should just go home."

I bring all this up because of a recent discovery in Russia.  Some coal miners, working at a mine in the Kuznetsk Basin in Siberia, unearthed a strange object that they claim is an extraterrestrial spacecraft.  Boris Glazkov, who found the object, said, "have to say it wasn't hard to see as it was really distinctive and large.  I've never seen anything like this object, which is obviously not natural, out here in the middle of nowhere before.  It is a real mystery."

The Kuzbassrazrezugol Mining Company, Glazkov's employer, confirmed discovery of the object, saying it was discovered at a depth of forty meters.  And everyone associated with the find is in agreement; what we have here is a crashed flying saucer.

So without further ado, let's take a look:

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Pretty strange, eh?  You can see why I thought of The Tommyknockers.  Imagine this thing making a fiery plunge through the atmosphere, carrying its panicked alien crew hurtling toward the Earth, then burying itself deep in the ground, killing all that were aboard.

But then the object's discoverers provided a second photograph, one that gave us perhaps a little more information than they intended:

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Interesting how big it looks when you have no way of knowing how big it actually is.

And this reminded me of a second book, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams.  In particular, I recalled a passage about a pair of alien races, the Vl'Hurg and the G'gugvuntt, that wanted to launch an attack on Earth:

Eventually of course, after their Galaxy had been decimated over a few thousand years, it was realized that the whole thing had been a ghastly mistake, and so the two opposing battle fleets settled their few remaining differences in order to launch a joint attack on our own Galaxy...

For thousands more years the mighty ships tore across the empty wastes of space and finally dived screaming on to the first planet they came across - which happened to be the Earth - where due to a terrible miscalculation of scale the entire battle fleet was accidentally swallowed by a small dog.
So the miners who discovered this thing must believe that alien races are really tiny, if that's their spaceship.  Makes you wonder what we've been so afraid of, all this time.  If the aliens show up, waving around their itty-bitty laser pistols, we could just step on 'em.

And of course, there's a completely natural explanation for this thing.  It's what's called a "concretion" -- a symmetrical glob of sedimentary deposits that have become cemented together.  They can look pretty peculiar:



But that doesn't mean they're evidence of aliens.

Also, if this was a "flying saucer," wouldn't it be made out of something other than rock?  But maybe this was a Stone Age spaceship.  Maybe instead of laser pistols, the little aliens inside brandished clubs and flint knives.

Of course, we could still step on 'em.

So that's our latest non-evidence for aliens out of Siberia.  Kind of a pity, really.  It would have been cool if it had been real.  However, I'd prefer it if such a discovery wasn't followed by what happened in The Tommyknockers.  Without giving away any more of the plot, let me remind you that it's a Stephen King novel.  So suffices to say that Bad Shit Happens.  So maybe we should all be glad that what the Russian coal miners discovered was just a big round rock.


Posted by  Gordon Bonnet     at  3:41 AM   

Quote from: rdunk on February 08, 2015, 02:42:41 PM
I also wonder why they do not at least show the reverse side, so as to be able to compare the features of both sides. No mention of material construction. 120 feet deep is pretty deep. I would expect that further excavation at that depth might reveal other "man-made objects" of another "lost/unknown" civilization! :)

Here is the back  took me a while to find the original source,

My best guess on material going by image alone is SANDSTONE

I don't like the concretion explanation on this one as it is claimed it came out of a coal bed but we don't know for sure


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The thing comes from the open pit  mine in Kuzbass, Russia, 40 meters deep. Previously they found lots of prehistoric bones there, like the tusks of mammoths but those weren't deeper than 20m. So this might be twice as older. According to them there was couple of the discs but another one was damaged by the excavator.

(http://media.englishrussia.com/newpictures/Stone-UFO-saucer-found-in-Russian-mine-Kuzbass/8707757_original.jpg)

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A rare stone resembling a UFO is on display at the Fifth Liuzhou International Rare Stone Festival in Liuzhou, southern China's Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous

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Stone discs in China

Several disc-shaped stones found in the area of Shangrao, Jiangxi Province in China. Scientists say that the disks can be over 300 million years.

Added, 11-06-2007

Wieslaw Lord, I analyzed images, ie .:

1. I do not know the natural phenomena that can generate the shape of the stone, stones resemble the German "tops" Viktor Schauberger
2. All objects have a similar shape, not natural. Generally, differences are from 20 to 50% in nature.
3. Nature knows no perfect symmetry, the objects retain it.
4. All objects look like they corroded outer shell. Similarly long lingering underground tank:-)
5. I do not believe that scientists have determined the correct age, method, eg. Carbon C14 is unreliable. The facilities are very old.

In summary, a long time ago before the Sumerian civilization goes back, someone had developed technology. The hypothesis of an advanced civilization, the colonization of land by an alien race, or civilization of the Gods is highly probable. The question to which we do not know an answer is, which version is true.

Slawomir J.

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Disc-shaped stones found on landslide rocky terrain hitherto little frequented by people. On the odd burst find workers who prepare the ground for the local road.

The diameter of the disk is over 1.5 m, a thickness of from 20 to 60 centimeters. Their weight is close to 1 ton.

Engineer of Shangrao Coal Bureau (agecja for. Atoms) suggested that the stones can be dated back to the Paleolithic era between the Permian and Carboniferous, and so on approx. 300 million years.

What may be surprising is the fact that the stones were arranged horizontally, and if not for the fact that their age is estimated at nearly 300 million years, it could be assumed that they were created by man. Found on top of the stones have a very hard shell. In the vicinity of a lack of stones, even with similar shape.

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We managed to get more pictures - present them first.

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Are there natural creation? About this decided by scientists ...


Source: http://www.sm.fki.pl/index.php?nr=dyski

Prepared by: Hotnews

Source / authorship: EpochTimes, HOTNEWS.pl/rn

Page prepared - Wieslaw Matucha

Now these ones are why I have a problem with the concretion idea. These ones are not sandstone. They are in SLATE

The squarish rock just above the text clearly shows the typical layers and breakage of slate

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(http://flexiblelearning.auckland.ac.nz/rocks_minerals/rocks/images/slate3.jpg)

Slate is usually a good source of great fossils because the layers slit so easily and the fossil just pops out, similar to these Pyrite disks   

(http://www.pyritesuns.com/wp-content/gallery/pyrite-in-slate/slate6.jpg)

Those "UFO"s look like fossils that popped out of the slate. There is another one still stock in the stone top left on this one

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THIS is what I mean   

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Quote from: space otter on February 08, 2015, 06:48:07 PM
;D  I like this guy  ;D
Posted by  Gordon Bonnet     at  3:41 AM   

LOL he got the story from me because I mentioned the Hitch Hikers Guide small mice that wanted to rule the Galaxy :P

And the Russians that found it said nothing about Aliens  That was the British Tabloid

Russians said:

In one mine, forty meter underground in Kuzbass miner region of Russia the local mine workers have unleashed a few stone discs that are shaped exactly as UFOs you used to see on the photos.  The thing comes from the open pit  mine in Kuzbass, Russia, 40 meters deep. Previously they found lots of prehistoric bones there, like the tusks of mammoths but those weren't deeper than 20m. So this might be twice as older.

THIS is how stories get twisted :P  Someone says shaped like an old style UFO and suddenly all over the net its an Alien Invasion

Z  something happen some of the pics aren't showing...



I was going to say I liked him because he sounded like you but that sounded too much like ass kissing...bwhahahahahahah



what do you think these are..

ah got a brain fart

your remark on fossils and older than mammoths made me think

>things were huge back there

> water covered most of the earth at one time

could they just be not fossilized but     Petrified        giant clam shells

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just for  thinking about it

How Things Become Petrified
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2012/05/how-things-become-petrified/





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