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International UFO Congress Conference and Film Festival (http://ufocongress.com)
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Saturday, February 21 • Registration Desk and Exhibits Open: 8:00 AM – 6:30 PM
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Would love to be there but I have a tax bill to pay!!!
Hope some PRC members can make it, maybe even meet Bob Lazar and George knapp and give us some feedback...
Its possible to attend just the one day at a low price rather than paying for the whole event over a few days...
One of our members alerted me to this conference and asked me to attend in his place, as he has other obligations to attend to that weekend.
It figures to be quite an event since it is the first UFO conference Bob has ever agreed to appear at.
His reasons for doing so are unknown at this point.
Perhaps the rumors of him having a stroke last year are correct and being forced to face his own mortality are the reason for his change of mind.
I know it did for me when I had one around the same time.
If you are going, don't forget to make enquiries about some of the videos we don't have. I'm sure some of the George Knapp material is not available on the web.
I'm so tempted to credit card a flight over.
I am very sorry to read that you and maybe Bob have had a stroke...I had no idea..
I just had a close elderly relative pass away after battling through one for almost 2 years...so I may have some idea of somethings you both may have been going through...(Although variation of strokes & symptoms vary from person to person)
I hope yours (and Bobs if he has had a stroke ) were not as bad and that you are both still younger and stronger enough to deal with it and can make full or reasonable recoveries..
It would have been great if you could have attended and met Bob and George...
I may have considered attending if they would have suggested being around the event for more than just an afternoon..where they may just do a 90 minute presentation and leave and not talk to anyone wanting to ask more questions which they can only say little in just 90 mins, much that more than likely with be similar to what we already are aware about.
Hope someone can make it...
QuotePerhaps the rumors of him having a stroke last year are correct and being forced to face his own mortality are the reason for his change of mind.
I know it did for me when I had one around the same time.
Quote from: astr0144 on February 09, 2015, 09:30:09 PM
I am very sorry to read that you and maybe Bob have had a stroke...I had no idea..
The rumour is they are the same person. :P :o ;D
Sorry I had skimmed A51s post...and somehow interpretaed the 1st line as....
QuoteOne of our members alerted me to this conference and asked me to attend
I had not took in that he said that Bob seems that he cannot attend and that A51 has been asked to take his place...on stage..!
QuoteOne of our members alerted me to this conference and asked me to attend in his place
When I read Pims reply initially I thought that he was suggesting A51 was Bob !!! :-\
That would have been a shock :o
Now I think that he was just kidding :) or is he ;D
But if he is to take Bobs place, that would be quite a surprise and also of great interest...
It would have been great to see Both A51 and Bob, George and John Lear all and others attending...
QuoteOne of our members alerted me to this conference and asked me to attend in his place, as he has other obligations to attend to that weekend.
Quote from: A51Watcher on February 09, 2015, 06:26:25 PM
Perhaps the rumors of him having a stroke last year are correct and being forced to face his own mortality are the reason for his change of mind.
If he had a stroke last year that would definitely account for his stubbling in that C2C interview
Quote from: astr0144 on February 09, 2015, 10:48:30 PM
When I read Pims reply initially I thought that he was suggesting A51 was Bob !!! :-\
No A51 is Ron Rummel
Bwahahahaha figure THAT one out :P.
Quote from: zorgon on February 10, 2015, 12:26:10 AM
No A51 is Ron Rummel
That isn't fair. Most people reading this won't know why you are saying that. :)
She's actually Phil Schneider's wife.
LOL until just now I didn't know she was a she :P I never had reason to look
But admin would know looking at emails :P and there are very few people left here but us
Secrets upon secrets, confusion confuddlement and still we have no spaceship to get into the game
Quote from: zorgon on February 10, 2015, 01:51:34 AM
and there are very few people left here but us
In no small part thanks to the Mikado show and a few other lovely arse wipes in my opinion.
Unlikely as it seems there is some deliberate confusion or misleading thrown in here..or maybe its just a bit of fun...
Well from what I recall, A51 posted some info on Ron Rummel and what he says happened to him along with Phil Schneider...
As A51, I assume is upto around about 6 foot above the ground..and he claimed R.R is now 6 ft under...unless he was using some cover up or making himself as if hes really R.R..as being deceased ...then I am not sure that I can work that one out !
QuoteNo A51 is Ron Rummel
Bwahahahaha figure THAT one out :P.
This seems something only the elite or very long term members or Mods would be aware about..
You got me on this one !...
I assumed both A51 & the Ron Rummel he described are both Male...
I recall seeing a Video of R.R & Phil Schneider together..
so unless R.R had a sex change to become P.Ss wife..
(Maybe even as a cover up sometime later on say if he faked his own death)....then at the moment, I can not think of any other suggestions...
but you got me curious !
QuoteThat isn't fair. Most people reading this won't know why you are saying that. :)
She's actually Phil Schneider's wife.
Certainly some secrets and confusion without a doubt ! ???
QuoteSecrets upon secrets, confusion confuddlement and still we have no spaceship to get into the game
Quote from: astr0144 on February 10, 2015, 02:17:22 AM
Unlikely as it seems there is some deliberate confusion or misleading thrown in here..or maybe its just a bit of fun...
It was a bit of fun mate. A51Watcher is not Schneiders wife or a woman. :)
Quote.then I am not sure that I can work that one out !
Don't try, you'll get a head-ache. :)
Now you got me thinking that answer maybe a cover up :D
Sometimes it may be best for me to just to observe and ask no questions or make any comments at certain times :P
Some of my comments were intended to be fun also, but sometimes surprises can occur in the replies back... not on this occasion...
or maybe if there is anything in the recent varied comments someone else may offer some answers...
QuoteIt was a bit of fun mate. A51Watcher is not Schneiders wife or a woman.
Quote from: astr0144 on February 10, 2015, 02:50:41 AM
or maybe if there is anything in the recent varied comments someone else may offer some answers...
A51 will explain it for you. :)
Thank you for acknowledgement of possible further insight.
Hoping so..
At least I may get an explanation to satisfy my curiosity related to topics of one of my main interests !
Quote from: Pimander on February 10, 2015, 03:09:01 AM
A51 will explain it for you. :)
Waiting for Disclosure Day (about UFO's and ET's) is like it was waiting for pot to become legal. It took for freakin ever ! ! ! :P
Never gonna happen till the Really BIG ships show up in orbit around our pretty little planet. :o
Well at least pot got to you first LOL
And now everyone in Colorado will be a drug dealer because they collected so much in taxes they have a surplus and by Colorado law they have to refund that surplus. Works out to about $3,500 per person :D
They can't legalise the whole drugs black market because the CIA need the money. :P
They can't "disclose" because military counter intelligence would lost a lot of their smokescreen for things like nuclear accidents, plane crashes, foreign plane "accidents (where the military recover the foreign technology and throw out ufo crash stories) and lots of other stuff. Finding the real UFO material is like looking for a needle in a haystack. LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCRo8PZAh60
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCRo8PZAh60 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCRo8PZAh60)
I want that list of names :P
Quote from: zorgon on February 10, 2015, 06:28:30 AM
Well at least pot got to you first LOL
And now everyone in Colorado will be a drug dealer because they collected so much in taxes they have a surplus and by Colorado law they have to refund that surplus. Works out to about $3,500 per person :D
The state is currently trying to make an end run around TABOR, in order to keep the excess revenue. Because the state is so much wiser than the taxpayers when it comes to spending taxpayer money. Of course, if that were true, we wouldn't have passed TABOR in the first place. I have to balance my budget. The government at all levels should have to do the same. And I drive out of state proudly displaying my "Green Badge of Courage."
Shasta
I see that Bob's full set is now appearing on torrent sites.
Here is an interesting clip from George's set -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBEQOCjx8jQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBEQOCjx8jQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBEQOCjx8jQ)
Thanks for posting this A51.
Did you actually see this at the event ?
or is it a repeat that covers the same content ?
I ask as on the video, it refers to Exoploitics Denmark...
I found this a full version.. :o , but I have not as yet watched it in Full, but it seems it may be from the video you posted..
http://www.exopolitics.dk/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1viG6PRjiw
I had been very interested in the Jerry Freeman story, but never had been aware that he had took some actual photos..(or that they had been made known to anyone)..
I had read somewhere that he had claimed to have seen some lights in the distance at night somewhere as he passed or was camping out near to Papoose Lake...
Quote"During the day I couldn't see anything,but at night as I lay awake in the darkness, high above that ancient playa, Near the mountainous side of Papoose I saw lights. Security vehicles, Hangar doors opening and closing"
but I did not know that what George Knapp described about what he claimed that Jerry actually witnessed. where he says a doorway opened in the middle of the SKY ! :o...Not Mountainside :-\
is this to suggest he witnessed some opening or portal in space time / or Star gate and something arriving at the Papoose Lake area..
I had suspected and been informed that Papoose may still be radiated...(and still question about the whole area of Area 51 as to how it may be still so)
But if that's what Killed Jerry by cancer from Radiation just 2 years later... then how disturbing...and what a terrible price to pay . :(
I would also question if there is some base their as described where Bob claimed to work at S4... if it is or was radiated...how has it effected those working their ?
Yes he took the chance to attempt to satisfy some part of his or our curiousity.. but its too high a price to pay !
I am quite shocked if this is the truth...
On the Full Length video that I posted..at around the 1 hour to 1hr .04 min time frame shows the same Jerry Freeman part that A51 posted..Just after this ..George later refers someone who claims that they found S4 Hanger Doors on a google earth map...But I am NOT convinced that it shows sufficient evidence as he attempts to describe when he shows the yellow lines that he claims that make it stand out...To me I cannot see anything that stands out very well to show the Hanger doors in the mountainside terrain before the yellow lines are marked out on the video..
I think George Loses some credibility showing that as an example..I really do NOT see anything that resembles hanger doors..
Great thread!
P
I also found this showing some of Bobs Q&A with George Knapp of interest.. with a few things that I do not think that I have seen described in as good a detail before..
Maybe the whole thing is available online somewhere...or at least on torrent sites..
but if its not easily available then maybe for keen Bob Lazar followers it probably worth purchasing the DVD ...
I hope that they do another event later this year or in 2016...
Quote from: A51Watcher on April 26, 2015, 12:45:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCRo8PZAh60
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCRo8PZAh60 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCRo8PZAh60)
Quote from: astr0144 on April 30, 2015, 04:21:30 AM
Hey astro -
The one you posted has a red curtain background and is from 2014.
2015 has the black background.
eta: I will get back to you on the other questions.
Hi A51,
I do think that the Video clip that you posted that shows Jerry Freeman and his Papoose lake Photos does come from the same Video that I posted that was from the Exopolitics Denmark 2014 event ..
It is shown also on the video you posted on the top left hand side ...also the Audience is the same.
But I do wonder if maybe its almost the same content that George Knapp shown at the 2015 International Congress conference that you attended. I suspect that it would show much of the similar material including the Jerry Freeman part.
With Regards again to the other Video you posted with the Q&A with Bob Lazar and George Knapp..
I found several things of interest..
His description of Element 115 and how its connected to Hydrogen and how it can have numerous versions depending upon its proton neutron make up that I have never seen Bob talk about before..That could offer possibilities again to indicate that what Bob said was correct...Its a complex topic and seems something that Scientists would have to do a LOT of research and testing to try to produce the correct version that Bob related to...I wonder if Bob May have found the answers to that E115 version if he had stayed in his Job at S4....
It was also interesting to see How both he and Bob may look at and view the whole thing many years later being older and wiser...and what he said as to how he may understand about somethings maybe being seen as remaining top secret as much as many would like to know the truths behind many of the details.
I can now understand more now how Bob had decided to stay away from the subject and how it effected his later life and his business...
QuoteThe one you posted has a red curtain background and is from 2014.
2015 has the black background.
Gene's own ring so true at this moment.
"The story I've just presented you is in no way the totality of what happened, but it does present the basic facts. I'm fully aware of everything else that happened so I can answer questions on subjects and details that have not been mentioned here. No one knows everything so if I don't know the answer, I'll simply say "I don't know".
In this synopsis I've also given researchers, pseudo researchers, and "wanna be" researchers new tidbits to chase down and verify and to them I say "Go for it". As you have just read, Bob went public to save his own butt, not to do a favor for everyone else. This is not to say that there isn't a part of him that thinks we all have the right to know. His motive for going public should help explain to some why he is reluctant to participate in some of the the current sideshows, that was never his intent."
Best,
Paulie
You could well be right Astro. At this point the only way I have of telling is the red curtain or not.
But yes George did present Jerry Freeman's story at the Arizona conference this year as well.
The Q&A was indeed interesting, I just wish George had not cut Bob off with another question just when Bob was about to describe the pivot mechanism that was so amazing that connected the gravity amplifiers to the craft. I have not heard that described before.
Most everyone at the conference and also many here can relate to their stories of woe being 'the ufo guy" in their part of the world.
I know I certainly can.