What the BLEEP is Going on in Britain?
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I have noticed that some Authority type figures are subtly or gradually making comments towards this type of thing, that if they could, would try to get it accepted as being OK..
Its now out in the open so much...some may try to make the public consider it as becoming the norm !..
Somethings seem to just be going a bit too far .... >:(
Although I could imagine that the age of consent will be lowered in the next few years..
No doubt some teenagers are more mature than others and may feel that it is wrong, like they want to drink and smoke underage.
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Here is another written News article about it.
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Labour has been plunged into further controversy after new evidence suggested one of its former Cabinet ministers once defended a policy calling for the legalisation of sex with children as young as 10.
The allegations were the latest to centre on the role of senior Labour figures in the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL) during the Seventies, a time when the organisation had links to a paedophile group.
New details have emerged showing how Patricia Hewitt, then the body's general secretary, tried to defend a policy that would have legalised sex with 10-year-olds.
The evidence was disclosed in a letter in which Mrs Hewitt — later health secretary in Tony Blair's government —argued in favour of a reduction in the age of consent, despite a senior teacher pointing out that such a move could only be promoted by "some very twisted minds".
The development added to the pressure for a full disclosure of the links between the NCCL and the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE), which was affiliated to it.
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PIE lobbied for the age of consent to be lowered to just four, and several members were subsequently jailed for child sex offences.
Last week, Mrs Hewitt apologised for "getting it wrong" on PIE but has not yet added anything in respect of the latest claims.
Jack Dromey, Labour's police spokesman, who was on the NCCL executive from 1970 to 1979, and his wife Harriet Harman, Labour's deputy leader, who was NCCL's legal officer from 1978, have also been embroiled in the controversy.
It emerged yesterday that Mr Dromey had attended an NCCL committee meeting in January 1976 that approved the policy of lowering the age of consent to 10 and decriminalising incest where both parties consented.
Mr Dromey became NCCL chairman two months later.
In the same month, Mrs Hewitt issued an official press release proposing the lowering of the age of consent to 14, "with special provision for situations where the partners are close in age, or where consent of a child over 10 can be proved".
In the release, Mrs Hewitt argued: "In our [NCCL's] view, no benefit accrues to anyone by making incest a crime when committed between mutually consenting persons over the age of consent."
It was disclosed yesterday that the press release had so infuriated a senior housemaster at St Paul's boys' school in London that he wrote to Mrs Hewitt in protest.
In his letter, discovered in the NCCL's archives in Hull, Philip McGuinness wrote: "I cannot help but think that you do not support civil liberties at all. Your aim is questionable in the extreme.
"Are you aiming for the destruction of society, for the enslavement of the individual, for the destruction of family life? Is your object to shatter prospective individual happiness at an early stage?"
Mr McGuinness concluded: "Your title is a shame and a masquerade. There must be some very twisted minds and pernicious malcontents behind your organisation if this is the sort of thing you advocate."
Mrs Hewitt, who is no longer an MP but sits on the boards of a number of large companies including BT, as well as a children's charity, defended the policy in the wake of Mr McGuinness's withering attack.
She wrote: "Our proposal is based on the belief that neither the police nor the criminal courts should have the power to intervene in a consenting sexual activity between two young people. It is clearly the case that a number of young people are capable of consenting to sexual activity and already do so."
Last week, Mrs Hewitt apologised for the policy and for NCCL's links to PIE but insisted: "The proposal to reduce the age of consent was not mine — it was the policy of the organisation and its executive committee at that time."
She added: "As general secretary then, I take responsibility for the mistakes we made. I should have urged the executive committee to take stronger measures to protect NCCL's integrity from the activities of PIE members and sympathisers and I deeply regret not having done so.
"I do not support reducing the age of consent or legalising incest. As the NCCL archives demonstrate, I consistently distinguished between consenting relationships between homosexual men, on the one hand, and the abuse of children on the other.
On Saturday, pressure was growing for a full review of NCCL's involvement in lobbying for a change in the law on the age of sexual consent and the role played by senior Labour figures.
Peter Saunders, of the National Association for People Abused in Childhood, said: "The more that comes out, the more worrying it is. It is very, very worrying that these people were taken in so much by the people behind PIE, who were clearly very manipulative, articulate and clever.
"Harman and Dromey should make a public statement saying they got this all wrong. It is very damaging for them.
"Patricia Hewitt has apologised but she is no longer an MP but these two could be ministers in the next government.
"There needs to be a full inquiry into NCCL and PIE."
Damian Green, the Conservative policing minister, said yesterday: "Patricia Hewitt has done the sensible thing and apologised for NCCL's links with PIE.
"It is for Jack Dromey to decide what to say and do. It is for Jack Dromey to decide how to handle it, but Patricia Hewitt has handled it sensibly."
Miss Harman has insisted she has nothing to apologise for, having joined NCCL in 1978, by which time she insists PIE had been marginalised.
Mr Dromey told The Sunday Telegraph he "disagreed" with the organisation's policy. He declined to say what steps he had taken to voice those concerns at the January 1976 meeting, which he attended and which agreed the policy.
Mr Dromey said: "I disagreed with this policy, and my first priority when I became chair in March 1976 was to lead the charge in NCCL against evil men promoting evil. I then defeated them by a massive majority at the annual conference I chaired [in April 1976]. I was accused by PIE of 'oppression' of their rights. Children have rights not to be sexually abused. Paedophiles have no 'rights'."
He went on: "On the age of consent, I have always supported equalisation of the age of consent. I do not believe it would be right to reduce the age of consent. Our priority must be protecting children."
Mr Dromey was unable to say whether the NCCL's proposal to lower the age of consent was rescinded during his time as chairman, suggesting it was not. Mr Dromey refused to answer questions on the subject.
Concern is also growing over why it took until 1983 for PIE to be expelled from NCCL, since by then the group had attracted widespread revulsion.
Anselm Eldergill, now a High Court judge, confirmed that he "resigned in disgust" from NCCL in 1979 when he discovered that PIE was affiliated to it. His decision will raise questions over why senior Labour politicians did not do the same.
Mr Eldergill was at the London School of Economics when he discovered the link. A fellow student said: "Anselm found out that NCCL was supporting PIE as a repressed organisation whose rights were being infringed. He thought it was an absolutely appalling position to take and resigned immediately."
Mr Eldergill has confirmed the version of events. "That is accurate," he was reported yesterday as saying.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10670419/Labour-MPs-child-sex-link-row-deepens.html
Things seem to be more lax in that area over in Europe. I mean, the age of consent in Spain is 13...
Hi Had not realised that in mainland Europe.
Here is a list around the world.
http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm
As low as 12 in some Countries that I found so far..
Quote from: astr0144 on March 13, 2015, 06:01:02 AM
Hi Had not realised that in mainland Europe.
Here is a list around the world.
http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm
As low as 12 in some Countries that I found so far..
At least judging by the case I know, Portugal, that site is very outdated, as the laws were changed in 2007.
Age of consent in Georgia was 12 not that long ago..
Back in Medieval times if you were not married by 12 you were an old maid :P Don't forget life expectancy was about 40 years back then
Now today you can drive a tractor at 14, but need to be 21 to drive a car. You can go kill someone in war at 18 but you cannot buy a drink till your 21
Planet is messed up :P
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Oh it goes so much deeper, MI5 are the main child sex traffickers in the UK. Leaders from all our top services have been intertwined with PIE, from GHCQ, MI6, Home Office, Scotland Yard, Freemason lodges.. and the royal family (Prince Andrew in one in the public eye).
The greatest scandal ever in recorded history will be up and coming in the next few years.
I hope you're right. This pedophile thing in Britain has been percolating for a long time. I think the elite there are trying to lay the groundwork for legalizing or at least excusing child sexual abuse, to protect themselves.
As a matter of theory, I have long believed that pedophilia and child murder is practiced by the elite for the simple reason that it bonds them together and keeps mouths shut in a way that no other crime can. In the Mafia, there is a saying that "he made his bones" - meaning that this guy can now be trusted because he has committed a murder we all know about.
So, somewhat similar to "Eyes Wide Shut", you have events involving perversion and violence so that all are involved and controllable thereafter. Paul Craig Rogers claims that 'bags of money' are used to keep Europe's leaders in line but that can get very expensive.
When we see some of the persons arrested or investigated.. there has been some surprises...
It seems incredibly hard to believe that certain persons we may have believed to be squeeky clean have been charged...
One wonders just how deep it really goes and on what scale.
I came across a report about the BBC that told some very disturbing stories...
Then to think that the services we believe are here to help / protect us can be actually involved in being part of it.
It seems we can no longer trust anyone.
Of those who are involved with such companies / organisations who don't want to get involved but are aware of it..but are in fear to say anything or get somehow put upon to be held to ransom or threatened if they say anything...
WHO or what sort of people are the ones holding such power ..or even in charge of others who may do the threatening for them..
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I hope you're right. This pedophile thing in Britain has been percolating for a long time. I think the elite there are trying to lay the groundwork for legalizing or at least excusing child sexual abuse, to protect themselves.
As a matter of theory, I have long believed that pedophilia and child murder is practiced by the elite for the simple reason that it bonds them together and keeps mouths shut in a way that no other crime can. In the Mafia, there is a saying that "he made his bones" - meaning that this guy can now be trusted because he has committed a murder we all know about.
Quote from: Sinny on May 05, 2016, 10:42:47 PM
Oh it goes so much deeper, MI5 are the main child sex traffickers in the UK. Leaders from all our top services have been intertwined with PIE, from GHCQ, MI6, Home Office, Scotland Yard, Freemason lodges.. and the royal family (Prince Andrew in one in the public eye).
The greatest scandal ever in recorded history will be up and coming in the next few years.
Quote from: Eighthman on May 06, 2016, 01:55:24 AM
I hope you're right. This pedophile thing in Britain has been percolating for a long time. I think the elite there are trying to lay the groundwork for legalizing or at least excusing child sexual abuse, to protect themselves.
As a matter of theory, I have long believed that pedophilia and child murder is practiced by the elite for the simple reason that it bonds them together and keeps mouths shut in a way that no other crime can. In the Mafia, there is a saying that "he made his bones" - meaning that this guy can now be trusted because he has committed a murder we all know about.
So, somewhat similar to "Eyes Wide Shut", you have events involving perversion and violence so that all are involved and controllable thereafter. Paul Craig Rogers claims that 'bags of money' are used to keep Europe's leaders in line but that can get very expensive.
Yup, and it's not just here. It's rampant in New Zealand, Australia, Canada, America.. NATO's another big player.. and they all take advantage of child populations of developing nations.
Apparently the Clinton's and DOJ pride are playing a large part in peddling 'front' organisations such as SOS Childrens Villages:
https://dojpride.org/
http://www.soschildrensvillages.org.uk/
Chicago has a MAJOR problem with human trafficking (most especially child sex trafficking), it's rampant there. Ever since the days of Hull House and Jane Addams... Obama has deep (throat) history with Chicago.
Chicago is like a safe haven for career criminals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernardine_Dohrn#Weather_Underground_involvement
Dohrn as it happens was even tangled up in the British Profumo Affair
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profumo_affair