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Title: California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use im
Post by: astr0144 on March 16, 2015, 11:42:20 PM
California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use immediately, NASA scientist says.


NASA's Jay Famiglietti urges acceleration of programs to save water Snowpacks in California mountains near record lows during drought

He says public have not been involved in discussions about the problem 

California will run out of water in 12 months, according to a NASA scientist.The state only has one year of supply left in its reservoirs due to persistent drought and is also running out of backup groundwater, Jay Famiglietti, senior water scientist at the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory, wrote.
The drought means that total water storage in California, which has been in decline since 2002, has been sapped by the need to use the resource for farming, he said in the Los Angeles Times.


(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/03/14/26A6528400000578-2994985-Reservoirs_in_California_such_as_Folsom_Lake_pictured_in_the_sta-m-41_1426362302270.jpg)


(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/03/14/26A6528400000578-2994985-image-m-43_1426362322918.jpg)

Since 2011 the state has been losing 12million acre-feet of water per year and the total amount of water in snow, rivers, groundwater and reservoirs was 34million acre-feet below normal in 2014.
Famiglietti suggested immediate water-rationing measures, which are being considered in southern California, across the state.
The use of groundwater for farming in the Central Valley has caused land to sink by one foot a year.
Sprinklers and other landscaping accounts for 70 per cent of urban water use, according to the Sacramento Bee.
Governor Jerry Brown declared a drought emergency at the beginning of last year, though Californians only reduced their water usage by 9 per cent instead of a hoped-for 20 per cent.
Beyond residents' consumpton, use of groundwater for farming in the Central Valley has caused land to sink by one foot a year.
He also urged the acceleration of task forces and programs meant to ensure that California will have enough water in the future, which are currently slated to 'achieve sustainability' in 2042.
The current drought in the western United States, which is entering its fourth year, is the worst in modern American history.
Snowpacks in California mountains like the Sierra Nevadas, which the state relies to melt into water, have been near record lows this year.


Famiglietti said that efforts need to be accelerated before it's too late, because he'd 'like to live in a state that has a paddle so that it might also still have a creek'.
Jay Famiglietti, writing in the Los Angeles Times, said he'd 'like to live in a state that has a paddle so that it might also still have a creek'
Jay Famiglietti, writing in the Los Angeles Times, said he'd 'like to live in a state that has a paddle so that it might also still have a creek'
Scientists from NASA, Cornell University and Columbia University released research in February that said there could be worse droughts to come.
A 'Megadrought' that could last several decades and would be worse than any other such phenomenon in 1000 years is expected sometimes between 2050 and 2099, according to their research published in Science.
The current dryness affects not only the West Coast, but also the rest of the country.
California grows the majority of many fruits and vegetables for the US.
Their produce makes up 69 per cent of carrots, 71 per cent of spinach, 99 per cent of artichokes and more than 90 per cent of broccoli, according to Slate.
Famiglietti said that 'the public remains detached from discussions and decisions' about conserving water and urged them to take ownership of the crisis.





http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2994985/California-run-water-reserves-year-begin-rationing-precious-resource-immediately-NASA-scientist-says.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
Title: Re: California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use im
Post by: zorgon on March 17, 2015, 08:12:24 PM
California has miles of ocean front They should have built desalination plants years ago as a backup.

Israel, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait all have no or little fresh water. They get all their water by desalination. This is an ancient method LOL  The added plus is that when you desalinate sea water you get tons of salt you don't have to mine  and you get pure water because only the water evaporates

Send home all the illegals :P  "3+ million illegals and an average use of 500 gallons of water per person per day that is a bunch of water that could be saved simply by deporting the illegals.
They won't do that either--they "need" them to pick the lettuce they won't be able to grow."

Santa Barbara working to reactivate mothballed desalination plant

(http://www.trbimg.com/img-54f51bb0/turbine/la-2420466-me-santa-barbara-desal-10-brv-jpg-20150302/750/750x422)
Filtration tanks at Santa Barbara's Charles E. Meyer Desalination Facility. The city plans to spend up to $40 million to modernize and reactivate the plant, which was closed in 1992. (Brian van der Brug / Los Angeles Times)

lifornia's four-year drought created the statewide mantra: "Conserve, conserve, conserve." But this coastal city can soon add another word to its water-related lexicon: desalinate.

Santa Barbara owns a mothballed plant — built more than 20 years ago during another severe drought — that can turn seawater into drinking water. But it was never used beyond a tryout phase before steady rain began falling again. Now, officials are working to press the Charles E. Meyer Desalination Facility back into service as the city's reservoirs continue to diminish.

Spider webs
Spider webs cling to a pressure gauge at Santa Barbara's Charles E. Meyer Desalination Facility. Although it may seem natural to think the Pacific Ocean could be the answer to California's water crisis, experts say a stampede toward desalination is unlikely. (Brian van der Brug / Los Angeles Times)
The city plans to spend up to $40 million to modernize and reactivate the plant, which was closed in 1992 when the last drought ended. It is among a number of desalting projects being considered along the California coast, including in Huntington Beach and the Monterey Peninsula.

In Cambria, a hybrid desalination plant that began operating in November treats brackish water to make it drinkable. And the nation's largest desalination plant is being built in Carlsbad for $954 million.

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-santa-barbara-desal-20150303-story.html
Title: Re: California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use im
Post by: zorgon on March 17, 2015, 08:14:30 PM
Water Resources Saudi Arabia

QuoteSaudi Arabia is a desert country with no permanent rivers or lakes and very little rainfall. Water is scarce and extremely valuable, and with the country's rapid growth, the demand for water is increasing.

The Kingdom, therefore, has turned to innovative ways to provide enough water to support its development. All water matters are handled by the Ministry of Water and Electricity.

Aquifers are a major source of water in Saudi Arabia. They are vast underground reservoirs of water. In the 1970s, the government undertook a major effort to locate and map such aquifers and estimate their capacity. As a result, it was able to drill tens of thousands of deep tube wells in the most promising areas for both urban and agricultural use.

Another major source of water is the sea. This is done through desalination, a process that produces potable water from brackish seawater. Saudi Arabia is the world's largest producer of desalinated water.

(http://www.saudiembassy.net/files/Images/cities4.jpg)

QuoteThe Saline Water Conversion Corporation (SWCC) operates 27 desalination stations that produce more than three million cubic meters a day of potable water. These plants provide more than 70 percent of the water used in cities, as well as a sizeable portion of the needs of industry. They are also a major source of electric power generation.

Dams are used to capture surface water after frequent flash floods. More than 200 dams collect an estimated 16 billion cubic feet of runoff annually in their reservoirs. Some of the largest of these dams are located in the Wadi Jizan, Wadi Fatima, Wadi Bisha and Najran. This water is used primarily for agriculture and is distributed through thousands of miles of irrigation canals and ditches to vast tracts of fertile land that were previously fallow.

An expanding source of water is the use of recycled water. The Kingdom aims to recycle as much as 40 percent of the water used for domestic purposes in urban areas. To this end, recycling plants have been built in Riyadh, Jeddah and other major urban industrial centers. Recycled water is used for irrigation of farm fields and urban parks.

http://www.saudiembassy.net/about/country-information/agriculture_water/Water_Resources.aspx
Title: Re: California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use im
Post by: zorgon on March 17, 2015, 08:16:28 PM
There is also this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUaPleXoK8E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUaPleXoK8E
Title: Re: California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use im
Post by: Dyna on March 17, 2015, 08:28:27 PM
QuoteThese plants provide more than 70 percent of the water used in cities, as well as a sizeable portion of the needs of industry. They are also a major source of electric power generation.

This plant will be online in 2016

I guess the way we deal with the process is different.
Electricity is a major cost

Others view that equation differently. Four years ago, the city of Long Beach abandoned its desalination plans because of the energy cost.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/water-and-drought/article3017597.html#storylink=cpy


Then there is
QuoteUnless that intake is carefully designed, it can harm marine life.
QuoteThe second major environmental concern is discharge water.

Seems they do not take the salt but put it back into the ocean.

Personally I am worried, I live in the redwoods and they need wet, they need mist and rain. We have had almost no rain when normally we have rain most days all year, used to you would get a quick shower and then sun like in Hawaii. It has always been very green year round, I wonder if this is going to change soon.
I am very worried about the wells as we are on a private well and this year, I could smell tree roots and got sand what will this year bring as it has been so dry and no snow pack!
Title: Re: California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use im
Post by: zorgon on March 17, 2015, 08:50:16 PM
PRIMARY WATER

THIS is a Primary Water Spring rich in Minerals in Northern Nevada  Geysers bring hot water deep from the Earth and deposit the minerals here. Fly Geyser, Nevada

(https://community.klipsch.com/uploads/monthly_01_2014/post-51278-0-37560000-1389284831.jpg)

(http://iliketowastemytime.com/sites/default/files/fly_geyser_reno_nevada_interesting_geological_location5.jpg)

We already covered the aquifers in the Hawthorne submarine base articles

(http://www.cnrwa.com/i/map2.png)
Title: Re: California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use im
Post by: zorgon on March 17, 2015, 08:52:09 PM
LOL I posted the same info on FB just now and mentioned the Sub base at Hawthorne and got this reply

Jocelyn Buckner OMG. I was driving home from Las Vegas with my husband some years back and we decided to take a back road to look at a mine that was for sale. Coming back to the freeway - I swear to you this is true - we saw a small submarine being hauled, headed east (away from the ocean) on a small country road (359). We scratched our heads over that one. Hm.
Title: Re: California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use im
Post by: Toltec on March 17, 2015, 09:25:36 PM
In the W coast of California, L.A. do not stop spraying chemtrails, so it does not rain ... it is impossible.
Title: Re: California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use im
Post by: space otter on March 17, 2015, 10:18:53 PM


I can't figure why they haven't put more dollars and sense into using the ocean...
if they can invent stuff to clean de-frag water why not ocean water.

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTNwro8g-39QlG75zZnwYEl0qrUh1U_iKUe1DlVtn9uXBmbn9uU)
Title: Re: California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use im
Post by: astr0144 on March 17, 2015, 11:50:19 PM
Alex Jones refers to it and mentions Chem trails also...

                            ------------------

Alex Jones takes calls and discusses the news that California has only one year worth of water in its reservoirs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4sEm87ueqo


Quote from: Toltec on March 17, 2015, 09:25:36 PM
In the W coast of California, L.A. do not stop spraying chemtrails, so it does not rain ... it is impossible.
Title: Re: California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use im
Post by: Toltec on March 19, 2015, 07:38:47 AM
In the W coast of Spain and Portugal, France, Ireland .., the same applies, be fumigated even at the height of the Azores. Spain (I live in Spain) is suffering the greatest drought in years, are destroying all fronts of rain.
All this not me, the satellite photos from NASA do not hide ...
Biological systems are destroying the planet ...
Title: Re: California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use im
Post by: Toltec on March 19, 2015, 07:41:45 AM
Here you can perfectly see if every day we see the pictures and have a little knowledge of meteorology ....


https://earthdata.nasa.gov/labs/worldview/?p=geographic&l=MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Reference_Labels(hidden),Reference_Features(hidden),Coastlines&t=2015-03-18&v=-154.46712995091673,15.358809335005759,-87.21322370091673,48.68693433500576
Title: Re: California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use im
Post by: burntheships on March 19, 2015, 08:49:29 PM
Stanford scientists explain the state of California's drought


QuoteScientists agree that the immediate cause of the drought is a particularly stubborn "blocking ridge" over the northeastern Pacific –popularly known as the Ridiculously Resilient Ridge, or "Triple R"–that prevented winter storms from reaching California during the 2013 and 2014 rainy seasons.
http://phys.org/news/2014-09-california-drought-linked-climate.html

So...the scientists say this ridge is from Climate Change.
I am not so sure that is the complete truth.

Title: Re: California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use im
Post by: burntheships on March 19, 2015, 09:08:51 PM
Reasons to doubt that the Drought over California and Nevada is
from Climate Change....

Main one being this:


Climate fixes 'pose drought risk'


Quote
Methods put forward include reflecting solar radiation back into space using giant mirrors or aerosol particles.

But the authors warn that such attempts to control the climate could also cause major changes in precipitation.

They want the effect on rainfall to be assessed before any action is taken.

Gabriele Hegerl of the Grant Institute at University of Edinburgh and Susan Solomon of National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) at Boulder, Colorado, write that "if geo-engineering studies focus too heavily on warming, critical risks associated with such possible "cures" will not be evaluated appropriately".

They argue that climate change is about much more than changes in temperature. So using temperature alone to monitor the effects of geo-engineering could be dangerous
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8188409.stm


So...considering that we now know there is no governing body over the
use of geoengineering methods or trials...is it possible that there is
activity kept on the low down.

Disturbing to say the least.
Title: Re: California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use im
Post by: Dyna on March 21, 2015, 06:24:12 PM
Our rain was always clearly brought by the jet stream which passed dirrectly over us and now never does. It is all out of whack and will change further or has a new normal we will have to adjust to I would guess.

QuoteThe jet stream, as its name suggests, is a high-speed air current in the atmosphere that brings with it the weather.

It is fuelled partly by the temperature differential between the Arctic and the mid-latitudes.

If the differential is large then the jet stream speeds up, and like a river flowing down a steep hill, it ploughs through any obstacles - such as areas of high pressure that might be in its way.

If the temperature differential reduces because of a warming Arctic then the jet stream weakens and, again, like a river on a flat bed, it will meander every time it comes across an obstacle.

This results in weather patterns tending to becoming stuck over areas for weeks on end. It also drives cold weather further south and warm weather further north. Examples of the latter are Alaska and parts of Scandinavia, which have had exceptionally warm conditions this winter.
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-26023166
Title: Re: California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use im
Post by: Toltec on March 22, 2015, 09:10:08 AM
Observe, observe what happens when a front will enter the W in California. The satellite photos leave no doubt, geoengineering (chemtrails) works hard to prevent rain ...
Just watch satellite photos while let us see. In europe is going the same ..


https://earthdata.nasa.gov/labs/worldview/?p=geographic&l=MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Reference_Labels(hidden),Reference_Features(hidden),Coastlines&t=2015-03-17&v=-138.99404317705768,21.61373238815234,-109.65615255205766,38.27779488815234
Title: Re: California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use im
Post by: astr0144 on March 22, 2015, 10:55:06 AM
As Much as I do believe its possible that the Globalists could be creating Chemtrails to destroy parts of the Planet in someway..Its still hard to really question why that would do..As they are destroying it for themselves.

The only other explanation that I recall was ,I think it was maybe David Icke that suggested it was to alter the Planets atmosphere for ETs..

But if there is any real evidence supporting that the Chemtrails are creating negative effects on the Planet, I cannot believe that more is not being to challenge those who are involved in doing it..

Admittedly we see the evidence in the skys that we would never have seen 20 yrs ago or maybe less..
that does not seem right in visual terms alone...seeing our skies covered with such substance and blocking out the light..and in many countries across the planet..

Surely by now the Governments should have been severely challenged by this, and if they have not, I question WHY !

Or was it also suggested they are doing it as part of the Global Warming / changes so that they can try to persuade us more that they need to charge us more taxes...

Even so surely enough Scientists should have been able to create a lot more concern about what maybe going on to fight against it..Surely they do not all work on behalf of the Evil agenda..


QuoteIn the W coast of Spain and Portugal, France, Ireland .., the same applies, be fumigated even at the height of the Azores. Spain (I live in Spain) is suffering the greatest drought in years, are destroying all fronts of rain.
All this not me, the satellite photos from NASA do not hide ...
Biological systems are destroying the planet ...
Title: Re: California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use im
Post by: ArMaP on March 22, 2015, 01:29:24 PM
Quote from: Toltec on March 19, 2015, 07:38:47 AM
In the W coast of Spain and Portugal, France, Ireland .., the same applies, be fumigated even at the height of the Azores. Spain (I live in Spain) is suffering the greatest drought in years, are destroying all fronts of rain.
I live in Portugal and we are far from suffering a drought, mostly because of a very rainy October and November.
Title: Re: California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use im
Post by: ArMaP on March 22, 2015, 01:32:51 PM
Quote from: Toltec on March 22, 2015, 09:10:08 AM
Observe, observe what happens when a front will enter the W in California.
I see that happen many times at a local level, whenever the clouds come over land they have a tendency of being dispersed by the hot air rising from the ground, and has been like that for many years, at least since I started found meteorology and started following it, some 40 years ago.  :)
Title: Re: California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use im
Post by: zorgon on March 22, 2015, 11:28:38 PM
Quote from: astr0144 on March 22, 2015, 10:55:06 AM
As Much as I do believe its possible that the Globalists could be creating Chemtrails to destroy parts of the Planet in someway..Its still hard to really question why that would do..As they are destroying it for themselves.
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THIS exactly  All the Elite wealthy Hollywood Jews and others live in California It is the world's premier real estate. You have to be Filthy Rich to even rent their. So WHY would they destroy the place they themselves live?

Maybe just maybe the Planet is going through changes beyond our control and the purpose ofGeoengineering is in fact the OPPOSITE from what all the silly Conspiracy Nuts want to believe

The only other explanation that I recall was ,I think it was maybe David Icke that suggested it was to alter the Planets atmosphere for ETs..

QuoteBut if there is any real evidence supporting that the Chemtrails are creating negative effects on the Planet, I cannot believe that more is not being to challenge those who are involved in doing it..

Show me the facts  So far NO ONE who has screamed Chemtrail and HAARP are destroying the planet has come up with hard cold facts of the results  con OR pro...

Personally I am convinced the INTENT is to produce Global dimming and stop the Sun from cooking us  NASA says so exactly in their Asterroid Dust idea.. HOWEVER I am not convinced that it will be effective  I still think umbrella spaceships are the answer 

(http://files.idnworld.com/creators/files/15/PandaPanther/defenseShield_02.jpg)
Title: Re: California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use im
Post by: zorgon on March 22, 2015, 11:41:18 PM


QuoteAdmittedly we see the evidence in the skys that we would never have seen 20 yrs ago or maybe less..
that does not seem right in visual terms alone...seeing our skies covered with such substance and blocking out the light..and in many countries across the planet..

Air traffic has increased a THOUSAND fold since 20 years ago  and before that propeller planes don't leave contrails. So just saying we didn't see this many 20-30 years ago is a moot point. Also the engines were a lot different back then

QuoteSurely by now the Governments should have been severely challenged by this, and if they have not, I question WHY !

Because. like Aliens visiting by the hundreds daily... the TRUTH is there really is nothing to see here :P

QuoteOr was it also suggested they are doing it as part of the Global Warming / changes so that they can try to persuade us more that they need to charge us more taxes...

Truth is very few people know what it means when they say "Global Warming"  The East coast was blasted by record snow falls so OBVIOUSLY Global warming is a lie right?

Well if you just stop to look at the Movie The Day After Tomorrow you will find out exactly how it works..

Global Warming is the AVERAGE rise of the AVERAGE ANNUAL temperature around the globe  A 5 degree difference can mean a hot climate or an ice age  The change is THAT SMALL  Look at my chart from the past 415,000 years of ice core samples  Notice the PEAK temp change? 5 DEGREES  Notice the SHARP INCLINE when the temperatures flip?

Here it is again LOOK at it  and remember that they found Mastadons frozen in the ice still eating their last meal

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47brotherthebig/04images/Antarctica/415k-year-temp-graph.jpg)

I am pretty sure there is nothing mankind can do with our current level of technology... doesn't stop them from trying.

Doesn't mean they are right either :P Scientists were WRONG about the Hole in the Ozone layer... It has always been there and is NATURAL  Any High School biology student could tell you why :P


QuoteEven so surely enough Scientists should have been able to create a lot more concern about what maybe going on to fight against it..Surely they do not all work on behalf of the Evil agenda..

Scientist mostly work on their own agendas  Problem is that many scientists are mad :P  They wanted to drill a hole at Yellowstone to relieve the pressure   Ummm really?  They wanted to drop small nukes along the San Andreas fault to gently ease it along.   Ummm really?  Even Carl Sagan wanted to Nuke the Moon to look for organic matter in the debris sent up.  Ummm really Car;? Gee guess what there WAS life up there... :P
Title: Re: California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use im
Post by: zorgon on March 22, 2015, 11:47:33 PM
Quote from: ArMaP on March 22, 2015, 01:32:51 PM
I see that happen many times at a local level, whenever the clouds come over land they have a tendency of being dispersed by the hot air rising from the ground, and has been like that for many years, at least since I started found meteorology and started following it, some 40 years ago.  :)

The Jet streams are off course from "normal'  Jet streams are caused by a combination of a planet's rotation on its axis and atmospheric heating (by solar radiation)

The current flow of these streams is such that it forced cold air down on the east coast which in turn forced hot dry air up the west coast  Las Vegas has had an unseasonable warm winter this year

THIS is what it looked like in January  The cold wet air dropped all that snow while the west got the southern desert blast

(http://blog.ametsoc.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Coldsnap.jpg)
Title: Re: California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use im
Post by: zorgon on March 22, 2015, 11:49:55 PM
This is the more "Normal" one

(https://www.nc-climate.ncsu.edu/images/climate/winter/Jet_Stream_3.jpg)
Title: Re: California will run out of water in a year and should begin rationing its use im
Post by: astr0144 on March 23, 2015, 03:34:56 AM
If the Planet is altering in Temperature due to Natural Astronomical cycles...then that may well be the case..and the effects may be seen similar as if it were a man made effect due to over pollution.

Yes If I recall it has been suggested that other planets are also increasing in Temperature.


QuoteMaybe just maybe the Planet is going through changes beyond our control and the purpose ofGeoengineering is in fact the OPPOSITE from what all the silly Conspiracy Nuts want to believe

That could be a possibility..

QuotePersonally I am convinced the INTENT is to produce Global dimming and stop the Sun from cooking us  NASA says so exactly in their Asterroid Dust idea.. HOWEVER I am not convinced that it will be effective  I still think umbrella spaceships are the answer 

Yes without a doubt air traffic has increased severely in the last 20 to 30 yrs..and some of the designs have changed overall..

what I am not sure about however, is how the exhaust fuel may have changed in terms of the Jet planes over the years..

There were trails back 30 yrs ago..but they seemed to clear a lot quicker than they do today..and I think were a lot streamer or thinner looking...Today the chem/contrails seem to spread out a lot more..and hang about longer..

QuoteAir traffic has increased a THOUSAND fold since 20 years ago  and before that propeller planes don't leave contrails. So just saying we didn't see this many 20-30 years ago is a moot point. Also the engines were a lot different back then

In a Horizon TV program a few years ago, they suggested that if Global warming is occurring, that it could alter both the Gulf stream and I assume jet stream... and if so, that could actually see some of the parts of Northern Europe that was kept warmer due to the GS and JS effects... that they could actually do the opposite of what we may think Global warming may do.. and that in fact, we may see some of the Countries become much cooler as there will be no heating effects from the two (Gulf and Jet ) streams...

So it could be either way, man made or a natural cycle.. that the effects on the planet may have similar effects and would be concerning either way..



QuoteThe Jet streams are off course from "normal'  Jet streams are caused by a combination of a planet's rotation on its axis and atmospheric heating (by solar radiation)