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Title: bye bye I E
Post by: space otter on March 17, 2015, 11:07:48 PM


I know most of you guys will say 'it's about time.!" but some will say oh no..what will I do...lol


Microsoft is scrapping Internet Explorer


http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/technologyinvesting/microsoft-is-scrapping-internet-explorer/ar-AA9ThZo?ocid=ansQuartz11

Quartz
Zach Wener-Fligner   9 hrs ago

The end is finally in sight for Microsoft's long-fraught Internet Explorer. At the Microsoft Convergence conference Monday in Atlanta, Chris Capossela, Microsoft's head of marketing, said the new flagship browser for Windows, which was announced in January and is codenamed Project Spartan, will not be associated with the Internet Explorer brand.

While Internet Explorer will still exist on Windows 10 for compatibility purposes, it will take a back seat to the new browser.

Microsoft has been working for years to salvage the Internet Explorer brand, which languished in the public eye thanks to releases like Internet Explorer 6, widely regarded as one of the worst tech products of all time. Releases over the last few years have fixed the product, but Microsoft has been unable to fix the browser's reputation, despite a solid ad campaign.

The browser's user share has suffered in recent years thanks to stiff competition from Google's Chrome, Mozilla's Firefox, and Apple's Safari browsers, and Dean Hachamovitch, the longtime manager of the Internet Explorer team, left the company in December. The announcement that Project Spartan won't be an Internet Explorer browser is Microsoft's ultimate admission of failure in its efforts to change Internet Explorer's image.

Title: Re: bye bye I E
Post by: zorgon on March 18, 2015, 07:43:39 AM
FOREVER AGO...
Netscape Mozilla stomps IE


(http://home.snafu.de/tilman/mozilla/mozilla-uber-alles.jpg)

RECENTLTY...
Firefox Mozilla Eats IE


(http://f.fwallpapers.com/images/firefox-vs-internet-explorer.jpg)

FINALY...
RIP IE


(http://i.imgur.com/loRyVrG.png?1)
Title: Re: bye bye I E
Post by: ArMaP on March 18, 2015, 12:46:40 PM
As far as I remember I think Firefox has always been less used than IE.
Title: Re: bye bye I E
Post by: WarToad on March 18, 2015, 02:55:14 PM
My personal computer I use Fire Fox.  My work computer is IE.  Too many work applications dedicated to running in the IE browser.  Can't get rid of it, unfortunately.
Title: Re: bye bye I E
Post by: Somamech on March 18, 2015, 04:17:21 PM
Microsoft have just "re-branded" their search/software technology to seem more hip :P

Having said that though, I use chrome, and may get back into Fire Ferret if they have fixed those issues they had.. ;)


Title: Re: bye bye I E
Post by: rdunk on March 18, 2015, 07:25:37 PM
I use Apple Safari now, and the non-tracking duckduckgo.com search engine, but I never had any real problems with Explorer, in all of the years I used it. Of course i did have a few problems along the way with the various Microsoft Operating Systems!!  :o ..... :)
Title: Re: bye bye I E
Post by: WarToad on March 18, 2015, 07:36:33 PM
Quote from: Somamech on March 18, 2015, 04:17:21 PM
... may get back into Fire Ferret if they have fixed those issues they had.. ;)

What issues are those?  I've never had a problem with it.  No virus, mal-ware, nothing.  I just run spy-bot in the background and it's a clean machine.
Title: Re: bye bye I E
Post by: Ellirium113 on March 18, 2015, 10:33:59 PM
Internet Explorer will still be available for the advanced line of the new Windows 10. On the regular version they stripped it down, added a few things and called it "SPARTAN".  :P

QuoteSpartan, a new Microsoft browser that will use the Trident rendering engine and the Chakra JavaScript engine that are part of Internet Explorer, is not just another new IE release, sources told me a week or so ago. Spartan is expected to look and work more like lightweight browsers such as Google's Chrome and Mozilla's Firefox, sources have said. It allegedly will support extensions, unlike IE.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts-spartan-browser-more-details-leak/#! (http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts-spartan-browser-more-details-leak/#!)
Title: Re: bye bye I E
Post by: Pimander on March 18, 2015, 11:11:37 PM
There is no Internet Explorer on Linux.  I can do everything a PC user would want.  The only thing you are likely to miss on Linux is Photoshop.  What you won't miss with Linux is viruses and paying for software.
Title: Re: bye bye I E
Post by: Just Looking on March 19, 2015, 08:39:34 AM
Quote from: rdunk on March 18, 2015, 07:25:37 PM
I use Apple Safari now, and the non-tracking duckduckgo.com search engine, but I never had any real problems with Explorer, in all of the years I used it. Of course i did have a few problems along the way with the various Microsoft Operating Systems!!  :o ..... :)

Another very private search engine is "Startpage", I use it with Firefox.
Title: Re: bye bye I E
Post by: burntheships on March 19, 2015, 08:26:22 PM
I wont miss IE for sure....
Anyone know about future hope for updates on Safari for P.Cs?



Title: Re: bye bye I E
Post by: ArMaP on March 19, 2015, 08:52:34 PM
Quote from: burntheships on March 19, 2015, 08:26:22 PM
Anyone know about future hope for updates on Safari for P.Cs?
As far as I know it has been discontinued some years ago.
Title: Re: bye bye I E
Post by: Glaucon on March 20, 2015, 06:39:43 AM
IE actually gives quite a bit of user control...should the user take the time to utilize the options.

I like Opera and Chrome. I used to be an avid firefoxer, especially liked the ability to disable all Flash. But it always be tens I much memory.

I have one machine (Asus t100ta tablet)  running the Windows 10 (9926) early release. Its certainly not ready for the market  ;D
Title: Re: bye bye I E
Post by: Glaucon on March 20, 2015, 06:40:36 AM
^*always eats so much memory*
Title: Re: bye bye I E
Post by: ArMaP on March 20, 2015, 10:09:40 AM
Quote from: Glaucon on March 20, 2015, 06:39:43 AM
IE actually gives quite a bit of user control...should the user take the time to utilize the options.
Like Windows, most people don't know that Windows allows, for example, people to chose their own manager (I don't remember the right name for it) instead of explorer.exe, there are several alternatives.

QuoteI like Opera and Chrome. I used to be an avid firefoxer, especially liked the ability to disable all Flash. But it always be tens I much memory.
Opera has been my favourite for several years, but their change to a Chromium based browser removed several of the things I liked, like the notes.

QuoteI have one machine (Asus t100ta tablet)  running the Windows 10 (9926) early release. Its certainly not ready for the market  ;D
I have it on a virtual machine. :)
Title: Re: bye bye I E
Post by: ArMaP on March 20, 2015, 10:39:36 AM
One possible reason for Microsoft to abandon IE that I haven't seen talked about is the problema that appeared when IE started to follow the rules more as expected.

Many people made sites with specific code for the specific characteristics of several browsers, so if someone wanted to made a site that worked in a specific way in IE they would add some code to identify the browser and act accordingly, but the newest versions of IE act more like Firefox or Chrome, so that specific code stopped working.

Making a new rendering engine that still presented itself as the old IE engine (Trident, if I'm not mistaken) would make things worse, with thousands of sites with specific IE code behaving in an unexpected way.

PS: this post was made from Windows 10, in IE 11 with the "Experimental Web Platform Features" activated, the features that give a preview of the new rendering engine. :)
Title: Re: bye bye I E
Post by: Ellirium113 on March 29, 2015, 04:50:50 PM
In another bit of related news...

Secunia Report Highlights Critical Importance of Non-Microsoft Patches

QuoteBrowsers: Target of the Year
As to where the attention has turned, that answer is easy to pinpoint -- the browser. Browser flaws were up 42 percent in 2014 to 1,035 in the top five browsers. Google Chrome drove almost half of that activity. With 504 newly discovered vulnerabilities, Google Chrome tops Secunia's list for the core product with the most vulnerabilities in 2014.

Although it surged way past perennial security whipping boy IE, Lindgaard cautioned that Google's bumper crop of vulnerabilities isn't necessarily a bad sign. As evidenced by Google's recent brouhaha with Microsoft over publicly reporting new vulnerabilities after a grace period whether or not they're patched, Google has placed more emphasis on security lately.

"The funny thing about Google Chrome is that the majority of the vulnerabilities being patched, a big part of it, is Google finding the vulnerabilities themselves. They're also paying a fair amount of money [in bug bounties]," Lindgaard said. He noted that many of Google's advisories in 2014 would include a bug bounty patch and bundle in a large number of internally discovered flaws.

(http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r553/Ellirium113/1427491678uJcBQAvqz2_1_1_l_zpsoi7mlck8.jpg)

QuoteAccording to a section of the report about the Top 50 Portfolio: "End users and organizations cannot manage security by focusing on patching Microsoft applications and operating systems alone. If they do that, they are only protecting their computers and IT infrastructures from 23.1 percent -- less than a quarter -- of the total risk posed by vulnerabilities."

http://rcpmag.com/Articles/2015/03/25/Secunia-Importance-of-Non-Microsoft-Patches.aspx?Page=2 (http://rcpmag.com/Articles/2015/03/25/Secunia-Importance-of-Non-Microsoft-Patches.aspx?Page=2)
Title: Re: bye bye I E
Post by: space otter on April 30, 2015, 07:34:44 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/this-is-microsoft-edge-the-replacement-for-internet-explorer/ar-BBiSAXj?ocid=ansVerge11


This is Microsoft Edge, the replacement for Internet Explorer

(http://img.s-msn.com/tenant/amp/entityid/BBiSIhl.img?h=488&w=728&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=203&y=243)

© Provided by The Verge 

Microsoft first revealed its new browser plans back in January. Known as Project Spartan initially, Microsoft is revealing today that the company will use the Microsoft Edge name for its new browser in Windows 10. The Edge naming won't surprise many as it's the same moniker given to the new rendering engine (EdgeHTML) that Microsoft is using for its Windows 10 browser.

(http://img.s-msn.com/tenant/amp/entityid/BBiTAEv.img?h=265&w=400&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f)

© Provided by The Verge 

While Microsoft Edge is the successor to Internet Explorer, Microsoft will keep its aging browser around for enterprise customers. Microsoft Edge is designed to be basic and minimalist for the future, and early previews include new features like digital ink annotation, Cortana integration, and a built-in reading list. "You're going to care about the blasting fast technology that's inside it," said Joe Belfiore on stage at Build. Microsoft Edge will be the default browser in Windows 10, and the one that most consumers will use to browse the web in Microsoft's next operating system.

Developing. Check out our Microsoft Build 2015 Live Blog for the latest updates
http://live.theverge.com/microsoft-build-2015-live-blog/
Title: Re: bye bye I E
Post by: ArMaP on May 01, 2015, 10:08:26 PM
It works in most things. :)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/Pegasus.PNG)

But the buttons above the area to create the post do not work. :(

Also, it's still a little slow rendering the pages when compared with Chrome or Firefox, but its Javascript is fast. :)