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Title: Origin-of-Life Story May Have Found Its Missing Link.
Post by: astr0144 on June 07, 2015, 02:22:02 PM
Origin-of-Life Story May Have Found Its Missing Link.

How did life on Earth begin? It's been one of modern biology's greatest mysteries: How did the chemical soup that existed on the early Earth lead to the complex molecules needed to create living, breathing organisms? Now, researchers say they've found the missing link.

Between 4.6 billion and 4.0 billion years ago, there was probably no life on Earth. The planet's surface was at first molten and even as it cooled, it was getting pulverized by asteroids and comets. All that existed were simple chemicals. But about 3.8 billion years ago, the bombardment stopped, and life arose. Most scientists think the "last universal common ancestor" — the creature from which everything on the planet descends — appeared about 3.6 billion years ago.

But exactly how that creature arose has long puzzled scientists. For instance, how did the chemistry of simple carbon-based molecules lead to the information storage of ribonucleic acid, or RNA? The RNA molecule must store information to code for proteins. (Proteins in biology do more than build muscle — they also regulate a host of processes in the body.)

The new research — which involves two studies, one led by Charles Carter and one led by Richard Wolfenden, both of the University of North Carolina — suggests a way for RNA to control the production of proteins by working with simple amino acids that does not require the more complex enzymes that exist today. [7 Theories on the Origin of Life on Earth]

Missing RNA link

This link would bridge this gap in knowledge between the primordial chemical soup and the complex molecules needed to build life. Current theories say life on Earth started in an "RNA world," in which the RNA molecule guided the formation of life, only later taking a backseat to DNA, which could more efficiently achieve the same end result. Like DNA, RNA is a helix-shaped molecule that can store or pass on information. (DNA is a double-stranded helix, whereas RNA is single-stranded.) Many scientists think the first RNA molecules existed in a primordial chemical soup — probably pools of water on the surface of Earth billions of years ago. [Photo Timeline: How the Earth Formed]

The idea was that the very first RNA molecules formed from collections of three chemicals: a sugar (called a ribose); a phosphate group, which is a phosphorus atom connected to oxygen atoms; and a base, which is a ring-shaped molecule of carbon, nitrogen, oxygen and hydrogen atoms. RNA also needed nucleotides, made of phosphates and sugars.

The question: How did the nucleotides come together within the soupy chemicals to make RNA? John Sutherland, a chemist at the University of Cambridge in England, published a study in May in the journal Nature Chemistry that showed that a cyanide-based chemistry could make two of the four nucleotides in RNA and many amino acids.

That still left questions, though. There wasn't a good mechanism for putting nucleotides together to make RNA. Nor did there seem to be a natural way for amino acids to string together and form proteins. Today, adenosine triphosphate (ATP) does the job of linking amino acids into proteins, activated by an enzyme called aminoacyl tRNA synthetase. But there's no reason to assume there were any such chemicals around billions of years ago.

Also, proteins have to be shaped a certain way in order to function properly. That means RNA has to be able to guide their formation — it has to "code" for them, like a computer running a program to do a task.

Carter noted that it wasn't until the past decade or two that scientists were able to duplicate the chemistry that makes RNA build proteins in the lab. "Basically, the only way to get RNA was to evolve humans first," he said. "It doesn't do it on its own."

Perfect sizes

In one of the new studies, Carter looked at the way a molecule called "transfer RNA," or tRNA, reacts with different amino acids.

They found that one end of the tRNA could help sort amino acids according to their shape and size, while the other end could link up with amino acids of a certain polarity. In that way, this tRNA molecule could dictate how amino acids come together to make proteins, as well as determine the final protein shape. That's similar to what the ATP enzyme does today, activating the process that strings together amino acids to form proteins.

Carter told Live Science that the ability to discriminate according to size and shape makes a kind of "code" for proteins called peptides, which help to preserve the helix shape of RNA.

"It's an intermediate step in the development of genetic coding," he said.

In the other study, Wolfenden and colleagues tested the way proteins fold in response to temperature, since life somehow arose from a proverbial boiling pot of chemicals on early Earth. They looked at life's building blocks, amino acids, and how they distribute in water and oil — a quality called hydrophobicity. They found that the amino acids' relationships were consistent even at high temperatures — the shape, size and polarity of the amino acids are what mattered when they strung together to form proteins, which have particular structures. 

"What we're asking here is, 'Would the rules of folding have been different?'" Wolfenden said. At higher temperatures, some chemical relationships change because there is more thermal energy. But that wasn't the case here.

By showing that it's possible for tRNA to discriminate between molecules, and that the links can work without "help," Carter thinks he's found a way for the information storage of chemical structures like tRNA to have arisen — a crucial piece of passing on genetic traits. Combined with the work on amino acids and temperature, it offers insight into how early life might have evolved.

This work still doesn't answer the ultimate question of how life began, but it does show a mechanism for the appearance of the genetic codes that pass on inherited traits, which got evolution rolling.

The two studies are published in the June 1 issue of the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.


http://news.yahoo.com/origin-life-story-may-found-missing-123319318.html
Title: Re: Origin-of-Life Story May Have Found Its Missing Link.
Post by: rdunk on June 07, 2015, 03:43:47 PM
I do wonder how many people have made their life's work to be "finding this missing link"? It is a bit interesting that so many have over many years tried to find answers to made up stories such as this "missing link" one. At least some/much of science now accepts that there is no missing link, as the "ODDS" for life just happening by atom/DNA/molecule interaction is way-way beyond the realm possibility. But the studies do continue don't they, as some humans are just not ready to accept as fact that science is not the answer to life itself! And too of course, there is still much tax-payer monies to be spent delving into subjects like this that can never be resolved/proven by scientific findings. So when the money is there, such studies are for sure to continue aren' they?! :))
Title: Re: Origin-of-Life Story May Have Found Its Missing Link.
Post by: astr0144 on June 07, 2015, 04:36:33 PM

As I get older and a BIT wiser...I just think my opinions count very little in many of the very complex topics that we experience in Life.

I think maybe there is one experience for some and other experiences for others in terms of what one can understand..

somethings just seem far too complex for me to try to understand and this topic is especially one of them  ???

but yes some of these things seem never ending..new things being suggested or discovered all the time..

Money may be part of some of the reasons behind some suggested continued research.

It maybe that somethings that Science cannot explain as we presently know it could offer the answers...

An eg maybe like what Matrix Traveller tries to explain..which in someways may be more simpler to understand than much of the very complex present Science that most of the population may never be able to understand..

QuoteI do wonder how many people have made their life's work to be "finding this missing link"? It is a bit interesting that so many have over many years tried to find answers to made up stories such as this "missing link" one. At least some/much of science now accepts that there is no missing link, as the "ODDS" for life just happening by atom/DNA/molecule interaction is way-way beyond the realm possibility.
Title: Re: Origin-of-Life Story May Have Found Its Missing Link.
Post by: petrus4 on June 07, 2015, 04:57:44 PM
Quote from: rdunk on June 07, 2015, 03:43:47 PM
I do wonder how many people have made their life's work to be "finding this missing link"?

In a working theory, there are no "missing links."  The theory either works or it doesn't.  Gaps imply that it doesn't work.  You can't do recursive work with gaps.  You can't create derivative ideas that will work, based on an original idea with gaps.

Evolutionary theory is a case of atheists re-writing the rules to suit themselves.  They want to have everything their own way.  They want to be able to believe in broken ideas which fit their emotional biases on the one hand, but they also want to be able to claim that said ideas are valid on the other.  At this point, the Renaissance is long behind us, and history is repeating itself.  We've got a new Inquisition, and Darwinism is the centerpiece of official Church doctrine.  Woe betide anyone who dares to question it.

A big part of the reason why I dislike neo-atheism to the degree that I do, is because of its' hypocrisy.  Establishment atheism consistently refuses to play by its' own rules.  Lip service is paid to empiricism, and then you have Wikipedia introducing talk about "reputable sources," a completely subjective, fabricated term that originates from the appeal to authority fallacy.

It is no longer about whether or not an idea testably works.  It's now about whether or not the "experts" like you, or agree with what you have to say; and whether or not your ideas are provably valid is completely irrelevant.  Credentials and penis measuring contests are what is important, not objective validity.
Title: Re: Origin-of-Life Story May Have Found Its Missing Link.
Post by: petrus4 on June 07, 2015, 05:12:59 PM
Quote from: astr0144 on June 07, 2015, 04:36:33 PM
An eg maybe like what Matrix Traveller tries to explain..which in someways may be more simpler to understand than much of the very complex present Science that most of the population may never be able to understand..

As a general rule, whenever you see something that looks like complexity, you're likely seeing one of two things.

a}  If the thing in question works very well, then it is likely that it is not truly complex at all, as much as its' operation is non-obvious or obscure.  If this is the case, then you want to use the principles of Analogy (http://www.theosophy-nw.org/theosnw/truth/tr-gdp3.htm) and Correspondence (http://www.kybalion.org/kybalion.php?chapter=VIII) as a means of giving yourself some initial leads and inspiration.  Read my thread here (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=3241.0) for information on the latter principle as applied to mathematics.  It might look complicated, but none of the individual steps are difficult; it is simply that sometimes there are a lot of them.

Don't be fooled by something's size, either.  Something that is big is not necessarily complex; size and complexity are not automatically related.

b}  Arbitrary/unnecessary complexity, which is a form of deception and is used as a means of control.  The entire reason why the natural environment is not complex, is because complexity raises a barrier to entry.  Nature doesn't want barriers to entry; it wants to grow and spread wherever it can.  Human beings, on the other hand, do want barriers to entry; because barriers mean you can decide who can enter and who can't.  You can prevent people from doing anything except in ways that you specify.

We haven't yet learned that whenever we create obstacles for natural processes, we are not doing anything beneficial.  We are only harming ourselves.
Title: Re: Origin-of-Life Story May Have Found Its Missing Link.
Post by: zorgon on June 07, 2015, 06:56:29 PM
Quote from: rdunk on June 07, 2015, 03:43:47 PM
I do wonder how many people have made their life's work to be "finding this missing link"? It is a bit interesting that so many have over many years tried to find answers to made up stories such as this "missing link" one.

How is this any different from a 1001 religins making up a story about a magical Being that made them as their "Missing Link"?

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Title: Re: Origin-of-Life Story May Have Found Its Missing Link.
Post by: astr0144 on June 07, 2015, 07:02:54 PM
It would be nice to be able to read your thread posts Petrus and have you help simplify somethings to me..May take me a bit of time to try to understand.

On a quick browse..One or two of the videos (on your 1st post )or links posts by others did not seem to work unfortunately.



QuoteAs a general rule, whenever you see something that looks like complexity, you're likely seeing one of two things.

a}  If the thing in question works very well, then it is likely that it is not truly complex at all, as much as its' operation is non-obvious or obscure.  If this is the case, then you want to use the principles of Analogy and Correspondence as a means of giving yourself some initial leads and inspiration.  Read my thread here for information on the latter principle as applied to mathematics.  It might look complicated, but none of the individual steps are difficult; it is simply that sometimes there are a lot of them.
Title: Re: Origin-of-Life Story May Have Found Its Missing Link.
Post by: zorgon on June 07, 2015, 07:44:52 PM
Quote from: astr0144 on June 07, 2015, 04:36:33 PM
As I get older and a BIT wiser...

Once you get wise  as you get still older the grey matter starts to rot. :P  Fortunately what you learned is stored for you for the next round :D

QuoteI think maybe there is one experience for some and other experiences for others in terms of what one can understand..somethings just seem far too complex for me to try to understand and this topic is especially one of them  ???

Once upon a time mankind looked at the world around him  It seemed complex and unfathomable... so they invented a whole myriad of Gods to explain it all

Then later too many gods was still to complex so they made ONE God to cover it all... :P

Then time passes and w discover that EVERYTHING in the Universe is made of ELEMENTS  We have today identified 120 or so with only about 90 being stable....  so suddenly the universe is less complicated

90 Elements make up everything from rocks to the most complex life form...

Then we discover that ATOMS are simply adding parts to the previous one  so Hyydrogen is 1 (1 poton 1 neutron 1 electron)  Helium is 2  and so on..

But WAIT A MINUTE  That means that EVERYTHING in the Universe is really only THREE THINGS  A Proto, (positive) an Electron (negative) and a Neutron  (neutral) Energy follows the same logic  positive charge negative charge and neutrality in the middle

Then Quantum Physics comes along and discovers that THOSE three particles are made up of only TWO smaller particle with a charge  Quarks  (To simplify  2 + qaurk = a proton,, 2 negative Quarks make an electron and 1 + and 1 - Qaurk make a neutron)  Okay it is not that simple but the concept is :D

So now we look at MATH...  we use a base 10 system  Numerology uses a base 9 Sumerians used a base 6...  All those are complicated

Then along come computers and Lo and Behold!!!! they use a base 2 system

1 and 0  on or off    so what is 1+1?  10   what is 2+2?  Well since 2 is 10... 2+2 would be 10+10 which would be 100 :D

See? Simple  0=0  1=1  2=10  3=11 4=100 5=101 6=110 7=111 8=1000

A computer can do this by the billions in nano seconds

So the comples univers is also a binary system  :D

The point is the more we learn, the simpler it becomes. It only seems complicated when you don't have all the facts


In the same way so is the answer to life. We DO NOT have all the answers at this stage

Religious people still need a God to explain it... while Mystics  are finding the SIMPLE answers

Scientists for the most part are still trying to seek complicated answers... while Quantin scientists are finding the SIMPLE answers

Quotebut yes some of these things seem never ending..new things being suggested or discovered all the time..

Consider THIS  we here on Earth (save a few Masters that have come to teach) are at the Kindergarten (maybe Grade ONE) level  New Ages are waiting for instant enlightenment and mass ascension, yet they have earned neither  Christians are waiting and expecting the Rapture   Same thing  expecting God to snatch them to Paradise but they have not yet earned it. Muslims are saying Allah is doing everything so we don't need to do anything on our own Its all Allah's will

So why bother living then?  This is a school  A Training ground for the souls It doesn't matter what deity you follow so long as you are LEARNING  Trust me there is no free ride. Earth is the School of Hard Knocks

So keep learning :D  There is no death  but don't waste your time.

There is ONE UNIVERSAL TRUTH

When we die.... at that MOMENT you will KNOW  no matter what you believed.... If we are naught but Food for Wyrms... then it is a moot point. But if there IS more, and I KNOW there is, then at that moment you don't want to have to look at your records and say "Oh CRAP Did I ever screw THAT up... I guess I need a do over!" :P

QuoteMoney may be part of some of the reasons behind some suggested continued research.

"They" say Money cannot buy happiness, love or health. "They" lied :P  If I had 5 million dollars I would be a lot happier than I am now... at the very least I would have less stress and be able to enjoy life without worry. That stress effects your health. Money cannot give you health but it can get you the best doctors :P Money cannot find you love, but neither can sitting at home broke :P

Research surely makes money  which funds more research. You can sit at a computer in your cave and surf the net  but that is not research. That just muddles the mind because for every thought or idea there are a thousand conter viewpoints  All of it just the new Tower of Babble

So paid research DOES get results  It motivates people to dig deeper because ... well its a paid job :P  (I wish I was being paid for this :P )

QuoteIt maybe that somethings that Science cannot explain as we presently know it could offer the answers...

Do not forget that science is on a LEASH of religiousa nd political beliefs.  The PTB will not allow certain discoveries to be published.  Example

A prof at the UofT (Toronto) published a paper that showed tha blacks are descended from apes. His proof was an extra vertebra that monkeys have but not whites.  He published  He had proof. But that was politically incorrect at the time. He was kicked out of the University his paper squashed.

He sued  because he had the proof. He WON the lawsuit, he was reinstated, but he had to agree NOT to publish

This happens all the time.  Some things we cannot find answers to AT THIS TIME  You cannot build a car without having invented wheels, and an ignition coil (thanks Tesla) and a few other things first  THEN you can piece it together and fill in the "missing links" because you can see more clearly what is missing and what would work in that blank

Kinda like that game on TV where you guess the letters until you can see the whole picture


QuoteAn eg maybe like what Matrix Traveller tries to explain..which in someways may be more simpler to understand than much of the very complex present Science that most of the population may never be able to understand..

Matrix has one explanation but his method is not student friendly. I cannot watch the strobes  They literally hurt my eyes but I understand his concept. Can I recreate it? I don't thinks so

I had a girl once that was being taught binary math  The teacher used apples and oranges and pidgeon holes. Seems the entire class was confused.

I showed he in one hour with pencil and paper how it worked. Most things work like that  Even in the job place  seek out the simple way to do sonmething :D
Title: Re: Origin-of-Life Story May Have Found Its Missing Link.
Post by: astr0144 on June 07, 2015, 10:34:37 PM
I enjoyed reading your explanation breakdown simplified version to the history of trying to understand the way things seem to be in this Earthly  / Life experience "Z"...

I may need to reread it a few times before offering any worthy related reply.....

But With ref to your comments below..

I do think you have great potential to become rich with some of your present website material.

I am sure that there could be numerous ways as to how you could use some of it to either create a set of various related books , products such as DVDs or CDs that relate to your content..or to create a separate paid membership site with just a fraction of the info material that you have on PRC....maybe where you just add certain content once a month or so... The issue maybe just knowing how best to go about it. and to check to see if people will pay for such information.

The thing is yes there is Numerous Free material online...but its sorting the good from the bad and maybe saving people a lot of time having to look at a lot of misleading or bad material.

I have not as yet come across any so called paid like forum for the sort of stuff that you have on PRC...(although I have also not as yet  checked)...but I suspect part of the secret is to know how to target those who may be willing to pay for certain information.

I think that you should consider setting up a separate site or at least give it a try.



Quote"They" say Money cannot buy happiness, love or health. "They" lied :P  If I had 5 million dollars I would be a lot happier than I am now... at the very least I would have less stress and be able to enjoy life without worry. That stress effects your health. Money cannot give you health but it can get you the best doctors :P Money cannot find you love, but neither can sitting at home broke :P
Title: Re: Origin-of-Life Story May Have Found Its Missing Link.
Post by: zorgon on June 07, 2015, 11:46:48 PM
Quote from: astr0144 on June 07, 2015, 10:34:37 PM
I may need to reread it a few times before offering any worthy related reply.

Perhaps but I have a problem  I procrastinate when it comes to money :P  When I get enough to cover immediate stuff I get lazy :D

Actually ORIGINALLY Pegasus was supposed to be a site to gather inventors thinkers etc so they could pool ideas and seek funding... Seems that egos always get in the way the minute you mention cash

QuoteI do think you have great potential to become rich with your present website material.

Possibly  I have tried finding an ad agent to sell text ads. I have a few I get from time to time from an independent agent Text ads are robot driven and not intrusive  In fact you wouldn't even notice them really  I don't want to plaster ads all over because the sites that do are ugly and cause browsers to go haywire

There are options
Selling merchandise, donations, subscribers  etc etc  but you can't do that all yourself

Thing is if you make money you can hire people to do it LOL

Putting all the sites under one roof will make it easier and it combines the traffic hits  A good ad agent can make a lot of money on commission

Example   a RANK 3 site can expect 30.00 per ad per month for a text ad  We are currently at Rank 3  sometime at 4   So a big ad agency will pay that  Usually runs for a year

This is different than banner ads that pay a  per click or less... A text ad will look like the one I just added in this sentence  :P

But the snafu is that the big agencies have to like your content before signing you up and they want an exclusive deal

Now the independent agent finds ads and gives you a cut  I get 85.00 for one ad on a page to run for a year I do not know what they get  I don't care  as its free money.  Not a lot but I have a LOT of words to sell :D

To show you how it works

THIS PAGE
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Ancient_Electricity_03.html

The words 'metal' and 'object' have a link  and at the bottom of the page THIS sentence is added by the agent

Any science 'expert' or electronic Parts Geek can try to make their own version of a light bulb. However, replicating the Dendera Lightbulb may be a bit much for the average 'Parts Geek' to do successfully.

That is it...  Reading it you wouldn't even really notice.   But this agent has found me NASA University and Military links so I am hoping to get that locked in  Remember that the same robot that makes the ads pay also add that person to our search results  Its a shared traffic thing  and having such agencies dropping a buck on you does NOT hurt your credibility

So if anyone wants to find us ads and make a commission  have at it :D  I am not a sales/pr guy :P

I would even take banner ads  like from games etc  especially stuff related to pages

Affiliates are great like Amazon or Think Geek (not added that yet) it is small dribbles BUT it slowly adds up.  Right now I am no longer treading water but have a small floating collar to keep head just above the water LOL


(http://www.thestreet.com/story/11260181/1/penny-stocks.htmlpenny%5B/url)
QuoteI am sure that there could be numerous ways as to how you could use some of it to either create a set of various related books or a separate paid membership site with just a fraction of the info that you have on PRC....maybe where you just add certain content once a month or so... The issue maybe just knowing how best to go about it. and to check to see if people will pay for such information.

We considered membership or subscription  but members come and go a lot and subscription requires constant content updates

I am better off selling merchandise like I do on Ebay etc   With the Medieval site I can list items related to the Renaissance people  even if I just link to the item on Ebay

As I have tried telling people who are short on cash  buying at yard sales and thrift stores and selling it online can be VERY profitable once you get the hang of it and a little basic knowledge

Here is an example  (I just looked today)  Found this old boot weight for $1.00  Listed it on Ebay for 45.00  (with a make an offer tab)  I set automatic offer to take anything 30.00 or up  so today it is sold and paid for

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-McCoy-Iron-Boot-Weight-/121647959723


Found this at the Opportunity Village thrift store for $9.99  On Wed I get senior discount of 33%  I was manager at that store for a year before I did the Convention work :D  Oddly enough I just ran into one of my supervisors from Sho-Link who also took early retirement and is now doing the same thing I am LOL What are the odds?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUFFY-FUZZY-VANDERBEAR-COLLECTION-with-Bears-and-Armoire-/111680895630

You will see that I just sold that for $250.00  The collection is worth more ( I always search online) but you sell faster if you stay low... besides $6.50 to $250.00 is enough :P

So here is my stash at Ebay 
http://stores.ebay.com/Land-of-Legends-Gallery?_rdc=1

and at Etsy
https://www.etsy.com/shop/PegasusRC

But I need to update that  Have to keep posting to stay visible


QuoteI have not as yet come across any so called paid like forum for the sort of stuff that you have on PRC...(although I have also not as yet  checked)...but I suspect part of the secret is to know how to target those who may be willing to pay for certain information.

Well the website as it is a paid account means I can do anything I want  no banners that go to other people  The problem with selling is a SHOPPING CART

A shopping cart lists your items and calculates shipping based on where the buyer lives  prints postage and processes credit cards or paypal for you

These are not free  LOL  At Ebay I sell enough that I get a good discount on postage 15-35% depending on item....   USPS sends me free boxes and picks up the mail at the door for free and it gets scanned right away fro tracking

Paypal has a shopping cart but the shipping is messed up (or I am not doing it right :P)  I can create Buy it Now buttons for each item and include shipping but that doesn't work for heavy items or out of country

You can buy the software relatively cheap  but you need a host for the service (card processing)  Ebay Etsy Amazon and Paypal all do it for a percentage.

So like that $250.00 sale Ebay gets 10% and paypal another 3.5%   Still it beats having a physical store  Amazon charges 15% but you can list indefinitely until it is sold for free and you get higher prices  Amazon people don't bargain  Etsy is the cheapest on fees and people there hate ebay (but there are a lot of sellers)

So hope that helps :D

I think that you should consider setting up a separate site or at least give it a try.
Title: Re: Origin-of-Life Story May Have Found Its Missing Link.
Post by: astr0144 on June 08, 2015, 12:43:41 AM
It will take me a bit of time to reread and try to gain a better understanding of what you have said.

I think that maybe some of the things that you are suggesting if just based upon your PRC forum, maybe to carry ads for advertisers..or have means to bring in potential members thru some means of advertising.

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You then say that it if you were to create say another type of  paid members site..that it requires constant content and updates.

It may depend upon how you go about it. and how you Market it.

I know of some people who Market other types of topics say for eg Business related material.. that they create a members area or maybe a  forum or both.. and either add certain content each month...or they offer a type of newsletter to their members or do both with certain type of information that people really want to know about.

In the eg of the newsletter...onc initially tested to see if there is the right interest and demand... they create ALL the content in advance...and as members join or sign up.. They have the system automated.. that they can send out an email each month with the content as the member pays each month..and they may just do this say for 12 months..so it would be 12 newsletters..and it gets sent out by what they call an autoresponder that is somehow linked with either a type of shopping cart. So all that can be pre set up..and once it is...as a member pays each month.. the content is sent out to the member..

its then a matter of how one advertises to get interested members...One main way being Pay per click type ads on likes of the 3 main search engines  like google and yahoo, bing. that one may only have to say pay $10 a day for..that may get you between 20 to 100 visitors a day to ones webpage containing information and what is known as a opt in page to collect potential members details..ie Name and email address..

One may be able to cover this fee by offering a low cost initial product of interest..say worth $7.

Another similar way could be by creating a type of Dvd or CD that could be sent out  monthly ..where the DVD or CD  contains the content..

That type of set up is what I was thinking in terms of an eg as to how it could work...and that may be an old method that Marketers used to use...

but today...

Even better if somehow one had a special (software )membership site... that could allow members access to (The same type of content as in a newletter or on a DVD )new material (Maybe in video form for eg )as they pay each month, rather than having the material sent out by email or post...

Yes the problem is partly will the members stay...
or leave say after one or two months...

Maybe it will be down to if the content or presentation is good enough or there is some other reason that will make them want to remain a member..  more will stay. I would think.

Admittedly doing it all to a good enough standard maybe the challenge and thinking it all out...

But I do suspect that you could start it out in the most simplest, cheapest  way..and build up on it over time..

The way many of the great marketers make money is to build a large list of followers... Often they do this by offering Free material content ..such as a free report or ebook on a topic of major interest to a mass market... Then gradually.. they create some products, be it a ebook or DVD.. where they charge for the occasional thing..

Later if the following is good..they then create a paid membership site..

Those who do it right... can say have 100s or 1000s of members maybe only paying say $10 a month...
but you may get the idea of what they can make if they have 1000 or 5000 or more members..

Maybe many of us know of such membership sites in other topics...

The secret is finding a major topic people are very passionate about and initially offering them some info that they value... that later they will consider paying for is someone creates the right product or service for them that  say contain for eg info that they may not easily find elsewhere , that you may give them some tasters for in the free content that wets their appetite .

if that makes sense..

I would think if you say took 12 main topics that you found people were interested in with ref to PRC content...that you could say create 12 monthly free newsletters.. and use that to build up a list of followers...and just see how it goes..

if it seems to start being popular.. then consider the next stage..

I think another part to succeeding in this is it may have to be the right person running it...

ie someone who does know the stuff very well and who can answer any questions that may  be asked..

Not just anyone could easily do this..but I think that you and your personality has what people would take to...and you need to use that in the right way..

With regards to will people pay for  monthly type of info..

Many people are probably too busy to do the indepth type of research done on PRC or parts of the web...

and they may do so, if they can receive the right type of content that interests them in the right manner...

QuoteWe considered membership or subscription  but members come and go a lot and subscription requires constant content updates

I am better off selling merchandise like I do on Ebay etc   With the Medieval site I can list items related to the Renaissance people  even if I just link to the item on Ebay
Title: Re: Origin-of-Life Story May Have Found Its Missing Link.
Post by: rdunk on June 08, 2015, 01:25:27 AM
Quote from: zorgon on June 07, 2015, 06:56:29 PM
How is this any different from a 1001 religins making up a story about a magical Being that made them as their "Missing Link"?

::)

Well I wondered who would be the first to ask this expected question!! :)

The God of this Universe presented his Word directly and through his prophets first to the Jews, and then to/for all of men through his Son Jesus and through his Apostles. These words do represent what is recorded in the book called The Holy Bible. The other 1000 religions that you mentioned are pretty much in the same sinking boat as are the "missing link believers", IMO (of course). According to what is presented by God's word on the Bible, there is "no missing link"! 

Title: Re: Origin-of-Life Story May Have Found Its Missing Link.
Post by: zorgon on June 08, 2015, 09:40:38 AM
Quote from: rdunk on June 08, 2015, 01:25:27 AM
Well I wondered who would be the first to ask this expected question!! :)

Glad to oblige :P

QuoteAccording to what is presented by God's word on the Bible, there is "no missing link"!

That was the point... SOMEONE wrote a Book that filled the missing links. But so did the Muslims and the Buddhists etc... They too wrote in their missing links and they are just as convinced as you are that they are right :D

The Raeliens are writing a new book. They figure their missing link is Aliens


But here  I will give you a Sylph you will like :P

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=8274.msg114901#msg114901

Title: Re: Origin-of-Life Story May Have Found Its Missing Link.
Post by: Shasta56 on June 11, 2015, 06:02:43 AM
I guess I'm in a sinking boat.  Good thing I can swim.

Shasta