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UFO's and Aliens => UFO's and Aliens => Topic started by: thorfourwinds on June 13, 2015, 10:02:26 PM

Title: UFO CIGAR INVISIBLE Over Castle Ruins Tulum, Mexico, May 2015
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 13, 2015, 10:02:26 PM
Greetings:

Here's one found on Openminds.tv (http://www.openminds.tv/ufos-spotted-again-over-mexican-castle-ruins-video/33956). What do you think?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8628OtMJUfc

UFO CIGAR INVISIBLE Over Castle Ruins Tulum, Mexico, May 2015 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8628OtMJUfc)


June 12, 2015
Locals to the castle ruins in Tulum, Mexico, might be wondering if their area is a UFO hotspot after a tourist videotaped an unknown object crossing the sky in May – 22 months after a Google street view camera caught a cigar-shaped UFO moving in the same area.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/red_oval_640.jpg) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/1200px_red_oval.jpg)

The object in this July 2013 video blends in with the cloud cover.
The object is in the lower portion of the cloud just above the 'T' in "contrast' above.
(Credit: UFOvni Disclosure)


The cigar UFO was caught on video by a tourist in May 2015, according to YouTube user UFOvni2012 in a June 10, 2015 upload.

According to the video (seen above), a tourist stated that his wife was lying on the beach near the castle ruins in Tulum and reported "weird mysterious flashes" twice in the daytime sky.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Pyramid_El_Castillo.jpg)

Pyramid El Castillo (The Castle), Tulum, Mexico. (Credit: Wikimedia Commons)


The woman's husband then began videotaping the sky in the hopes of capturing the flashes, but instead caught what appears to be an object moving through the clouds.

The same spot was a point of curiosity in July 2013 when a Google street view camera caught what appears to be a cigar-shaped object moving over the same area.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Tulum_UFO_july13_640.png)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Tulum_UFO_july13_LG_crop_640.png) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Tulum_UFO_july13_LG_crop.png)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/UFO_palm_tree_640.png)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/UFO_palm_tree_LG_crop_640.png) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/UFO_palm_tree_LG_crop.png)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9nNDzlfzRA

UFO Sighting Over Castle Ruins TULUM, Mexico, July 2013 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9nNDzlfzRA)

In the July 2013 video, the object makes a 90-degree turn, hovers momentarily, and then disappears.

Tulum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulum) is the site of a Pre-Columbian Maya walled city. The ruins are situated on 39-foot-tall cliffs, along the east coast of the Yucatán Peninsula on the Caribbean Sea in the state of Quintana Roo, Mexico.
Title: Re: UFO CIGAR INVISIBLE Over Castle Ruins Tulum, Mexico, May 2015
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 13, 2015, 10:34:48 PM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/312_LG_oval_640.png)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/105_left_bottom_corner_640.png) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/105_left_bottom_corner.png)

Is this the 'bottom left corner' of this 'craft'?


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/103_LG_640.png) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/103_LG.png)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/what_is_it.png)

What is this?
Title: Re: UFO CIGAR INVISIBLE Over Castle Ruins Tulum, Mexico, May 2015
Post by: ArMaP on June 13, 2015, 11:41:14 PM
I think it's another hoax from those UFOvni guys, I have seen several. :(
Title: Re: UFO CIGAR INVISIBLE Over Castle Ruins Tulum, Mexico, May 2015
Post by: zorgon on June 14, 2015, 12:00:40 AM
EXPECT US!!!

WE ARE THE ALIENS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDaEMDdiTlM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDaEMDdiTlM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gft-dyDTE7I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gft-dyDTE7I
Title: Re: UFO CIGAR INVISIBLE Over Castle Ruins Tulum, Mexico, May 2015
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 15, 2015, 12:56:33 AM
So, ArMaP, you are saying the Google footage is fake?

Not even Zorgon's 'blimp'?

Thanking you in advance for your reply.

tfw
Title: Re: UFO CIGAR INVISIBLE Over Castle Ruins Tulum, Mexico, May 2015
Post by: ArMaP on June 15, 2015, 01:29:52 AM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on June 15, 2015, 12:56:33 AM
So, ArMaP, you are saying the Google footage is fake?
What Google footage? I see only images grabbed from Google Earth, and those images appear to show something on the camera cover, that's why it appears out of focus, because it's close to the lens.

QuoteNot even Zorgon's 'blimp'?
Sometimes, questions like that make doubt your intentions in this forum.
I was obviously talking about the UFOvni video(s), not about the video posted after my post. ::)

QuoteThanking you in advance for your reply.
You're welcome.  :)
Title: Re: UFO CIGAR INVISIBLE Over Castle Ruins Tulum, Mexico, May 2015
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 15, 2015, 02:39:48 AM
Greetings:

QuoteWhat Google footage? I see only images grabbed from Google Earth, and those images appear to show something on the camera cover, that's why it appears out of focus, because it's close to the lens.

Thank you for the clarification, especially since you are a 'professional' regarding photography.

Somehow, we were under the impression that "images grabbed from Google Earth" would be correctly identified as "Google footage".

So, you are stating emphatically that 'it' is something on the camera 'cover' as opposed to 'it' being on the lens. OK, what is it?


QuoteNot even Zorgon's 'blimp'?

QuoteSometimes, questions like that make doubt your intentions in this forum.
I was obviously talking about the UFOvni video(s), not about the video posted after my post. ::)

And we wuz obviously talking about Zorgon's inference that what wuz in the video wuz a blimp.   ::)

Sometimes, statements like that make us doubt Your intentions in this forum.     ;)

Perhaps these stories might be of interest, as your old, tired, boring 'soft attack' approach is eloquently spelled out.

Our only question is why?

Why are You constantly on the attack, no matter what we/anyone post(s)?

Why don't You create threads about what interests You, instead of the inane dissembler tactics?

Enough, please.

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Title: Re: UFO CIGAR INVISIBLE Over Castle Ruins Tulum, Mexico, May 2015
Post by: zorgon on June 15, 2015, 10:00:19 AM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on June 15, 2015, 02:39:48 AM
Somehow, we were under the impression that "images grabbed from Google Earth" would be correctly identified as "Google footage".


Well that is incorrect "footage" is a term reserved for actual film reel or video... the term originates from the usage of old film by the foot  as were the old video tapes.

A video of a still photo doesn't really qualify as 'footage'

Okay kids... back to you feud :P
Title: Re: UFO CIGAR INVISIBLE Over Castle Ruins Tulum, Mexico, May 2015
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 15, 2015, 04:30:11 PM
No feud here.

We thought it wuz a 'still photo' (screenshot) of a video.  :P
Title: Re: UFO CIGAR INVISIBLE Over Castle Ruins Tulum, Mexico, May 2015
Post by: ArMaP on June 15, 2015, 09:24:59 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on June 15, 2015, 02:39:48 AM
Thank you for the clarification, especially since you are a 'professional' regarding photography.
I'm not a professional, only an amateur. :)

QuoteSomehow, we were under the impression that "images grabbed from Google Earth" would be correctly identified as "Google footage".
They are fixed images, so they are not "footage". Even if it was a "recorded tour" made in Google Earth I wouldn't consider that as "Google footage", as "Google footage" sounds to me like the footage's origin was Google and not the person that created the tour.

QuoteSo, you are stating emphatically that 'it' is something on the camera 'cover' as opposed to 'it' being on the lens.
No, I never state any thing emphatically, much less when talking about something that appears on photos taken by someone else. :)

I said in the camera cover instead of the camera lens because the cameras used to create the panoramic views used on streetview are multiple cameras under one common cover, so it's difficult for something to reach the lens. Also, if it was on the lens and so closer to the sensor it would look more out of focus.

QuoteOK, what is it?
I don't know, it could have been an insect (which could account for it "appearing" and "disappearing" like a Méliès special effect), but I'm not familiar with the local species.

QuoteAnd we wuz obviously talking about Zorgon's inference that what wuz in the video wuz a blimp.   ::)
Obviously, but the way you wrote it made it look (to me) like you were considering my answer as related to the video zorgon posted after my post.

QuoteSometimes, statements like that make us doubt Your intentions in this forum.     ;)
To make it clear, my intentions are:
- keep the forum working as best as we can;
- answer any questions;
- post my opinion when asked or when I think I should present it;
- post any new information that I think is pertinent to the forum or any ongoing discussion (rarely happens);
- make things as clear as possible to everybody.

Looking at the last element of the above list makes me think that I should have been clearer about what I meant about your intentions. What I meant is that, frequently, you post questions like that, in a way that makes it look like the poster you are answering to wrote something completely different from what they did wrote.

In this case, when you asked "Not even Zorgon's 'blimp'?" as an answer to my "I think it's another hoax from those UFOvni guys", it looks like I was saying that the blimps from the videos Zorgon posted were also hoaxes, something that I never said (and that I couldn't even say, as he posted those videos after my first post).

That way of posting looks, to me, like:
- a way of changing the meaning of what the other person wrote (for whatever reasons);
- the result of posting without thinking about what you are writing or what the other person meant.

The first possibility can only be the result of having some specific intention behind it, so posts like that make me doubt the poster's intentions.

QuoteWhy are You constantly on the attack, no matter what we/anyone post(s)?
Attack? I never attacked anyone, either here or anywhere else, online or on real life, did you felt attacked by my opinion about the opening post or by my opinion about your strange way of posting?

QuoteWhy don't You create threads about what interests You, instead of the inane dissembler tactics?
Creating (good) threads is too much work. ;D

QuoteEnough, please.
Enough of what, posting my opinions?
Posting in the way I like to post?
Not agreeing with what other people say just because they say it?
Please be clearer about what's troubling you, otherwise I don't really know what do you want me change.

QuoteFederal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions | Humans Are Free (http://humansarefree.com/2013/09/federal-government-hires-internet-trolls.html)
See, that's what I meant about the way you post.
You post those links as an answer to my post but don't state what you think. Do you mean that you think I am an agent paid the US (or other country's) government? Or did you just post that to create doubt in the reader's minds?

PS: no, I'm not a paid agent, where can I apply to the job? ;D