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Ancient Civilizations => Ancient Civilizations => Topic started by: A51Watcher on June 16, 2015, 07:25:48 AM

Title: Tiwanaku, Pumapunku - The Gods at war... Peru and Bolivia long before the Incas
Post by: A51Watcher on June 16, 2015, 07:25:48 AM
Very interesting information that appears to correlate with other ancient historical records -


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTtE2acQeHo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTtE2acQeHo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTtE2acQeHo)


 
Title: Re: Tiwanaku, Pumapunku - The Gods at war... Peru and Bolivia long before the Incas
Post by: micjer on June 16, 2015, 02:19:17 PM
It was very interesting.  Thanks for the link.

Sure looks like it was blown up by some type of explosive device that is for sure.
Title: Re: Tiwanaku, Pumapunku - The Gods at war... Peru and Bolivia long before the Incas
Post by: A51Watcher on June 16, 2015, 08:42:31 PM
Quote from: micjer on June 16, 2015, 02:19:17 PM
It was very interesting.  Thanks for the link.

Sure looks like it was blown up by some type of explosive device that is for sure.


Yes indeed.

The rubble surrounding the Great Pyramid could also be a result of this.

Take for instance that nice piece of broken pink marble being measured by Chris Dunn, that appears to have been cut on a lathe.

The Giza plateau is littered with amazing pieces like that. Where did they all come from, and how? A gorgeous piece of pink granite should not be that hard to track down.


The Book 'The Wars Of Gods And Men' details ancient records speaking of aerial bombardment by 'The Gods' against one another in their flying craft in Egypt.
 
Title: Re: Tiwanaku, Pumapunku - The Gods at war... Peru and Bolivia long before the Incas
Post by: space otter on June 16, 2015, 11:24:15 PM


just watched  an episode of ancient aliens about this and it was better than most and had a some different guys doing models and what they thought it could have been..interesting prespective


sigh just another place I won't get to.. :'(
Title: Re: Tiwanaku, Pumapunku - The Gods at war... Peru and Bolivia long before the Incas
Post by: zorgon on June 17, 2015, 02:38:13 AM
We need to SERIOUSLY get in touch with Brien Foerster..

He is there at these sites all the time and showing the old puzzle stonework and these impossible artifacts as well as the elongated skulls

Brien is on FB  has a lot of videos and books and tons of images of places the main stream archaeologist won't ever show us

My problem is he has do much and I don't know where to start

Any volunteers? :D



Title: Re: Tiwanaku, Pumapunku - The Gods at war... Peru and Bolivia long before the Incas
Post by: zorgon on June 17, 2015, 02:43:30 AM
Here is one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwDRZ-u8E2Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwDRZ-u8E2Q
Title: Re: Tiwanaku, Pumapunku - The Gods at war... Peru and Bolivia long before the Incas
Post by: zorgon on June 17, 2015, 02:45:29 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4WoNaxbb-0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4WoNaxbb-0
Title: Re: Tiwanaku, Pumapunku - The Gods at war... Peru and Bolivia long before the Incas
Post by: space otter on June 17, 2015, 02:48:39 AM


http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/review-of-ancient-aliens-s04e06-the-mysteries-of-puma-punku




http://www.history.com/shows/ancient-aliens/episodes
The Mystery of Puma Punku
Watch Full Episode
Premiere Date:June 12, 2015 - 09:00-10:00PM ET
Giorgio Tsoukalos hosts. (Individual episode synopsis is currently not availble.)

TVPG
Title: Re: Tiwanaku, Pumapunku - The Gods at war... Peru and Bolivia long before the Incas
Post by: zorgon on June 17, 2015, 02:58:26 AM
Found an interesting portrait of Issac newton today on FB  but I lost it :P So I looked for it in search Found a similar one. Most paintings of Newton show him with a huge head of hair. As he aged the hair was gone but look at his head shape

(http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/thumbnail/189165/1/Portrait-Of-Sir-Isaac-Newton-1642-1727-C.1710.jpg)
Title: Re: Tiwanaku, Pumapunku - The Gods at war... Peru and Bolivia long before the Incas
Post by: zorgon on June 17, 2015, 03:19:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlz_REUbWtY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlz_REUbWtY
Title: Re: Tiwanaku, Pumapunku - The Gods at war... Peru and Bolivia long before the Incas
Post by: micjer on June 17, 2015, 01:36:24 PM
http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/review-of-ancient-aliens-s04e06-the-mysteries-of-puma-punku


I read this review of History Channel show.  Not very complimentary.  He did have some valid points but very critical.. 
Title: Re: Tiwanaku, Pumapunku - The Gods at war... Peru and Bolivia long before the Incas
Post by: space otter on June 17, 2015, 01:50:05 PM


Mic

I think it's always important to hear both sides...
like Pim was saying in another thread.. we are being funneled into what they want us to know

knowledge is power
that's why all the control freaks in history burnt the books
Title: Re: Tiwanaku, Pumapunku - The Gods at war... Peru and Bolivia long before the Incas
Post by: micjer on June 17, 2015, 01:58:35 PM
Good point Sky.

Would love to see first hand.  The June tour is booked up but I see they have another planned for October. 

http://www.megalithomania.co.uk/peru2015.html

ANCIENT TECHNOLOGY PERU & BOLIVIA TOUR 2015


Join the stars of 'Ancient Aliens' (History Channel) Andrew Collins, Brien Foerster & Hugh Newman on a unique tour to examine and compare the great civilizations of Gobekli Tepe in Turkey, and the pre-dynastic temples of Egypt - in the incredible sacred landscape of ancient Peru and Bolivia. Includes full day Solstice celebration in Cuzco - The Inti Raymi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59POjYvZ3bM
Title: Re: Tiwanaku, Pumapunku - The Gods at war... Peru and Bolivia long before the Incas
Post by: zorgon on June 17, 2015, 08:22:17 PM
Brien Foerste's theory tends to be similar to mine  An Ancient race before everyone else  maybe with some alien connection

But one thing is MOST IMPORTANT  No matter what theory is given, he does SHOW US artifacts and sites that main stream source NEVER showed

So since we cannot all go tour Egypt Peru and other sites ourselves...

At least his photos let us see with our own eyes and we can make up our own minds

One thing I will say...  My father was a Mason... (yes a member :P but I mean a real stone mason) 

I too cut stones...  To make such perfectly straight edges and smooth surfaces with a mallet and chisel is IMPOSSIBLE... If anyone wants to prove me wrong please do so.  Grab yourself a modern 2 lbs sledge and carbon steel chisel and cut me a 1 foot square cube of granite or andesite that has perfectly straight edges and smooth flat sides


Those older Andesite stones are amazing   Only unearthed in 2012?

Yup I need to contact Foerster today

Title: Re: Tiwanaku, Pumapunku - The Gods at war... Peru and Bolivia long before the Incas
Post by: ArMaP on June 17, 2015, 09:56:27 PM
Quote from: zorgon on June 17, 2015, 02:58:26 AM
Found an interesting portrait of Issac newton today on FB  but I lost it :P So I looked for it in search Found a similar one. Most paintings of Newton show him with a huge head of hair. As he aged the hair was gone but look at his head shape

(http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/thumbnail/189165/1/Portrait-Of-Sir-Isaac-Newton-1642-1727-C.1710.jpg)
Do you have any problem with dolycocephalous people?
Title: Re: Tiwanaku, Pumapunku - The Gods at war... Peru and Bolivia long before the Incas
Post by: ArMaP on June 17, 2015, 10:02:19 PM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/Tiwanaku_1.jpg)

Funny how the edges have a different colours, as if some kind of cement was used to make those difficult to sculpt shapes. :)
Title: Re: Tiwanaku, Pumapunku - The Gods at war... Peru and Bolivia long before the Incas
Post by: zorgon on June 18, 2015, 03:07:58 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on June 17, 2015, 10:02:19 PM
Funny how the edges have a different colours, as if some kind of cement was used to make those difficult to sculpt shapes. :)

Yes cement has been discussed... so has softening of the stones to shape them using some mysterious plant...

We discovered that the Romans had learned about cement... but cement is a soft material made from limestone, a sedimentary rock.  Those cut/carved stones are Andesite  a volcanic rock similar to granite.  Limestone does not take a polish, andesite does

But your not going to get smooth flat surfaces with a hammer and chisel :P

(http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/minecraft.gamepedia.com/c/cb/Polished_Andesite.png)

So did the Inca's or Pre-Incan races have concrete? 

::)
Title: Re: Tiwanaku, Pumapunku - The Gods at war... Peru and Bolivia long before the Incas
Post by: ArMaP on June 18, 2015, 01:45:28 PM
Quote from: zorgon on June 18, 2015, 03:07:58 AM
Yes cement has been discussed... so has softening of the stones to shape them using some mysterious plant...
I know, I am one of those that have mentioned that mysterious plant. :)

QuoteWe discovered that the Romans had learned about cement... but cement is a soft material made from limestone, a sedimentary rock.  Those cut/carved stones are Andesite  a volcanic rock similar to granite.  Limestone does not take a polish, andesite does
Limestone does take a polish, you just have to look at any old street in Portugal, as we use limestone to pave the side-walks. :)

QuoteBut your not going to get smooth flat surfaces with a hammer and chisel :P
Probably not, but maybe with a different tool. I cannot try with andesite, as I don't have any, but I can try it with basalt or granite. :)

QuoteSo did the Inca's or Pre-Incan races have concrete? 
I don't think so, and anyone could have added that cement-looking material after.
Title: Re: Tiwanaku, Pumapunku - The Gods at war... Peru and Bolivia long before the Incas
Post by: Pimander on June 19, 2015, 09:58:34 AM
(http://www.ancient-egypt.co.uk/cairo%20museum/cm,%20statues/images/egpytian_museum_cairo_7070.jpg)
SOURCE: http://www.ancient-egypt.co.uk/cairo%20museum/cm,%20statues/pages/egpytian_museum_cairo_7064.htm

With copper chisels?  :o

I don't think so!
Title: Re: Tiwanaku, Pumapunku - The Gods at war... Peru and Bolivia long before the Incas
Post by: Dyna on June 20, 2015, 12:14:05 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on June 17, 2015, 10:02:19 PM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/Tiwanaku_1.jpg)

Funny how the edges have a different colours, as if some kind of cement was used to make those difficult to sculpt shapes. :)
if there were another material surrounding the cuts would that not be easily tested for?
Title: Re: Tiwanaku, Pumapunku - The Gods at war... Peru and Bolivia long before the Incas
Post by: ArMaP on June 20, 2015, 12:43:00 AM
Quote from: Dyna on June 20, 2015, 12:14:05 AM
if there were another material surrounding the cuts would that not be easily tested for?
I think so.