Trump announces White House bid, joins crowded GOP field(https://scontent.flas1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/t31.0-8/p600x600/11416345_10153364275981336_3693201246860142024_o.jpg)
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/16/trump-announces-white-house-bid-joins-crowded-gop-field/
This will make it an interesting Election...
With yet another round of the Clinton's V Bush's..
Hillary Clinton , Jed Bush and now Donald Trump wanting to oppose them...which he had considered in the past.
I am not sure if he is likely to be as good a potential as a Politician as he is a businessman.
I don't think he has the same developed personality or ability with Words, manipulative and lying and speech skills as many a Politician..
But he may be able to run the economy like he has with his successful businesses much more honestly
and oppose a lot of the corruption that goes on a lot better than most.
It would be so much a huge relief if we could have someone who could win the Election and run America as it was once meant to be and not with hidden agendas and corruption..
But I am not sure we will ever get that if the World is always ran by a hidden Elite of corrupt illuminati that the likes of Alex Jones always talks about.
Unless I misjudge Trump and he is also a corrupt businessman and he wants to apply that also in his agenda to run America.
This also could be interesting.
I attended a Business event about 2 yrs ago in the UK..
where one of the speakers was from the USA..and it was found that he was friends with Donald Trumps son as well as Oprah's Partner , Stedman Graham (who was also at the event).
I must admit that if Donald Trump can get Oprah to persuade the American Public, I do think that could greatly increase his chances.
Donald Trump Says He'd 'Win Easily' If He Ran With Oprah
https://gma.yahoo.com/trump-says-hed-win-easily-ran-oprah-195713051--abc-news-topstories.html#
I would imagine a Trump / Oprah ticket would have that
reality tv show feel.... ;D
Who knows at this point, though Trump is not CFR, or Trilateral,
which is a good thing but I imagine those are the powers that
ultimately have a lot of control over the office, and they
mean to keep that power. It is going to be interesting for sure.
Quote from: astr0144 on June 17, 2015, 10:35:29 AM
I am not sure if he is likely to be as good a potential as a Politician as he is a businessman.
But he may be able to run the economy like he has with his successful businesses much more honestly and oppose a lot of the corruption that goes on a lot better than most.
THIS is the main point IF they let him run...
He is a businessman that knows how to make deals and get things done. America was ALWAYS a Corporation but the Corporation ran smoothly until the Lawyer politicians got into the mix and went to bed with the bankers
There is one thing to REALLY consider... the statement he made that he will fund this himself No campaign funds from outside, no special interest groups He has enough to pay this himself
Remember Kennedy? I hear he didn't take the salary :D
Now with all that money and we know the corrupt... it seems to me he could buy off his opposition THAT needs to be considered
Is he a nice guy? Well maybe, maybe not I met him a couple times in Vegas during conventions... First impression? A powerful individual that gets the job done. You don't need to like him if he fixes things :P
He did make the comment "I'm VERY rich!" Yes he is.. that was not bragging, that was sending a clear message to his opposition that he is ready to buy votes :P
Jebb Bush or Hillary Clinton? I dread the thought of either... but if Donald could make it I bet we see some real change in a very short time... like he says one thing he IS an expert at is making solid deals
I am going to contact him see if I can help out :D I never messed much in politics but this time I see a small glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel
Ron Paul had a chance but he was an Independent Donald is a Conservative so all he needs to do is convince the inner circle
Might be a fun ride... we do have a voice here :D
I get the impression that Donald Trump does seem a possibly more honest more trustworthy candidate.
(I have not studied his background in detail as yet to make a more in depth assessment or opinion.)
Assuming that he does not have a corrupt background that helped him to become the success that he is...or is not somehow connected with certain corrupt individuals...(Although sometimes one may be put into certain situations from there past and it maybe impossible to completely be rid of certain things.)
Then I do think he could be one of the better candidates.
Providing that there are not too many Laws or rules that may restrict his progress.. Yes I think he could very quickly change things for the overall better...
Its a tricky one .. when it comes to which or what his views are....be it conservative, Independent or whatever...
For the working Class in the UK for eg... it used to be that they would always back Labour rather then conservative. as Labour were said to be for the working man.. and this was the majority of the population .. It is difficult for them to support Conservative..
In the USA.. I suspect its a similar situation..That the working class maybe wary of Rich People becoming President..
So will the majority vote for him. Even though he may be able to change things for the better for overall situations.
I think there have been some very good and honest past Presidents...Kennedy maybe one of the more recent best ...along with that of G.W in 1776 as A.J harps on.
What I am not sure about though is ..Does a real Shadow govt or illuminati really exist and what will they be looking to do with D.Trump if they do not want the Country ran by him .
Are they that powerful to determine what they want at whatever the cost.
I would Hope that we could see a potential change...but I am concerned that the shadow Govt may have other agendas in mind.
Maybe if they really exist that they can be exposed and stopped..and if they exist some people know who they are and you would think could do something about it...
Quote from: astr0144 on June 18, 2015, 03:39:02 AM
In the USA.. I suspect its a similar situation..That the working class maybe wary of Rich People becoming President..
Surely by now everyone knows it costs hundreds of thousand to get the nod?
QuoteSo will the majority vote for him. Even though he may be able to change things for the better for overall situations.
Well he has to get nominated first by his peers before we even get to vote.
As for corruption.. we all know that ALL politicians are corrupt :P That is a given... but we have always been able to live with that SO LONG AS we get our piece of the American Pie..
As long as people get that, they don't care what the big wigs do... Problem is will anyone believe that he will give them back that pie
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LOL It is amusing to see how Twitter Heads and FB loonies react and think... :P
Just because you create jobs, doesn't mean everyone is qualified :P
I don't know if the Donald has a chance or not... as he said "I am very rich" and that means he could likely buy the needed GOP votes :P
But I would give him a chance... he is a HUGE change from the slimy lizards running things now. You can love him or hate him, but he knows how to run a business
My reply to that Twitter head would be
GOOD then maybe he can fire Congress :P
Looks like he listened to me :P
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best comparison I have heard
Bill Maher Calls Donald Trump 'The White Kanye'
the article's here
http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/bill-maher-calls-donald-trump-%e2%80%98the-white-kanye%e2%80%99/ar-AAcevwD
"Here's the thing about Donald Trump: he never apologizes; he's never wrong no matter what crazy thing he says," Maher said on "Real Time with Bill Maher." "For a party whose base adores belligerence, this is the guy."
I just realized that without satellite TV, I won't have to endure as many political ads. Whoohoo!
Shasta
Quote from: astr0144 on June 18, 2015, 03:39:02 AM
I get the impression that Donald Trump does seem a possibly more honest more trustworthy candidate.
Assuming that he does not have a corrupt background that helped him to become the success that he is...or is not somehow connected with certain corrupt individuals...(Although sometimes one may be put into certain situations from there past and it maybe impossible to completely be rid of certain things.)
Then I do think he could be one of the better candidates.
What matters is that his APPROACH would be different... he would approach the Corporation of the US of A as a BUSINESS man, (scrupulous or not :P )
So his focus would be to make that Crop. PROFITABLE and VIABLE again... and yes thay means the rich still get rich, but a succesful business means the employees (tax paying sheep :P ) get the benefits of a healthy corp.
THAT is the difference IMO
Question is can he sell it :D
This is some videos from Alex Jones in the last few weeks with ref to Donald Trump.
So far I don't think that they have covered his agenda in much relevant detail which seems disappointing..
Unless A.J does not want to build him up as hes more a of a Ron Paul supporter and sees him as a threat to him.Which I suspect...But he does indicate that he is addressing certain important agendas with serious conviction.
Some videos initially seem to knock him, but the last one seems positive .
Donald Trump Exposed!
one organization is holding onto The Donald's dough, it seems. The Clinton Foundation is not saying whether it has any plans to return $100,000 the real estate mogul donated several years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLuoF4lrWbI
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Escaped Drug Lord Tweets Donald Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p6L8Ie23q4
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"Art of the Steal" by Trump, The Villain from Pixar's "UP"
What does Donald Trump's private use of "eminent domain" against an elderly widow tell us about him and about his character?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBkH06QxhmA
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The Real Trump Story - 07/15/2015
See the ref to D.T from the 40 minute mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INI3ucnLauc
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Dr. Jerome Corsi: Trump Is The Real Deal
Dr. Jerome Corsi joins the show to discuss the political persecution of Obama critic Donald Trump and former Reagan policy advisor Dinesh D'Souza and more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc1un2GQW_4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU0wyJxAZ6c
I just find Trump to be quick to anger, quick with sharp words, ego-centric, not exactly diplomatic in nature. Not so sure that would work out well on the worlds stage as far as any kind of foreign policy.
That being said, I can't think of anyone better suited to attack our national debt and get the budget back under control.
That is my point... he may not be a very nice guy
but right now we need someone that can fix things
someone who doesn't need to line his own pockets
someone who has no problem shoving Political Correctness down the toilet where it belongs
Heh. Then I'm afraid Mr. Z, we must agree to agree.
At least to some extent, a way to judge a man's character is by taking a look at how he influences/influenced the raising of his children. I have not done a study of this on Trump, but pretty much everything I have heard variously indicates that he was quite strict on them. And apparently, his now adult kids seemingly have matured as adults quite well. Such is not so easily done in any home, but especially hard to do in one of wealth, because of the inevitable "silver spoon" factor.
We do yet have a lot to learn about Don Trump, because what so many of us know about him now is strictly based upon what we have see and heard in/on news reports and tv shows. Much time is left for us to decide who will make the best President for us and for our country!
personally i don't like him for the job..his money makes him tactless and could start more wars than we already have..
BUT the fact that his following is as large as it is...i think is a very good point ..
pointing to the fact that a lot of folk DO agree with him
and who so ever winds up with that job had better pay closer attention to we-the-people
instead of we the money
Quote from: space otter on July 21, 2015, 09:49:19 PM
personally i don't like him for the job..his money makes him tactless and could start more wars than we already have..
He isn't much interested in wars as far as I can tell. It would be great to just stay home and fix things for a few years. :D
QuoteBUT the fact that his following is as large as it is...i think is a very good point ..
pointing to the fact that a lot of folk DO agree with him
and who so ever winds up with that job had better pay closer attention to we-the-people
instead of we the money
What We the People need is MORE of that money :P and then we would be happier people. Things were good in America when the American Dream was available for anyone who wanted to work a little. The wife could stay home because one job was enough, you could work 5 days and take vacations...
Ah the good old days when We the People had some spare money :D
I don't know if they will let him run, but I think it would be a big difference from the usual political agendas. At least he wouldn't need to vote himself a pay raise
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If the past and present Presidents have been or are puppets for the NWO / Globalists / Elites or who ever they maybe as described by the likes of Alex Jones..
Then as long as Donald Trump is NOT influenced by the likes of that... then I really think it would be good for both the USA and Europe to try him.
One issue may be that he could become a bit of a tyrant with the work ethic and may attempt to get more people in work and pay less benefits to those who prefer not to work or may have disabilities to work for some reason.
I don't think hes really one who would want any War.
and one wonders if he maybe able to deal with corruption within the Government..
Some Politicians both in the USA and UK may well need to be put on trial for corruption and could do with exposing.
It would be about time that someone could come along and attempt to alter things for the better..
We do not want Martial Law or many of the evil things that we have become aware about in the last few years to occur with the likes of Obama, Bush or Clinton.
Quote from: WarToad on July 21, 2015, 07:58:41 PM
I just find Trump to be quick to anger, quick with sharp words, ego-centric, not exactly diplomatic in nature. Not so sure that would work out well on the worlds stage as far as any kind of foreign policy.
Maybe it's time we tell the world to take a hike and fix our house first
Look at Greece.. we loaned them billions... now look at them I don't see us getting that back anytime soon.
We need to get back on track at home... we are too divided trying to run the world
Quote from: zorgon on July 21, 2015, 11:29:27 PM
Maybe it's time we tell the world to take a hike and fix our house first
The possible problem I see with a business man as US president is the lack of interest in the people from most highly successful business men. Yes, he may "fix the house", but at what price for those living there?
QuoteLook at Greece.. we loaned them billions... now look at them I don't see us getting that back anytime soon.
You did? ???
I don't think he wants war..so much as when he got pissed off at something
instead of pointing and saying 'you're fired'
he would say "FIRE ! "
and since he was deferred during the draft years he has no REAL idea of what would then happen
but that's just my opinion..perhaps he just wouldn't care..
Quote from: ArMaP on July 21, 2015, 11:49:23 PM
Yes, he may "fix the house", but at what price for those living there?
Well many people losing their houses so fixing the house can't be a bad thing :P
But hey we can always go with another Bush or another Clinton :P
Quote from: zorgon on July 22, 2015, 11:12:20 AM
Well many people losing their houses so fixing the house can't be a bad thing :P
I am an optimist, but I also know that things can always be worse.
QuoteBut hey we can always go with another Bush or another Clinton :P
That's the problem, regardless of who is elected I doubt we will see good changes on a global level.