I really like Jim Marrs. He is a straight shooter and has the references to back up his statements with research.
Marrs is far from the worst author I know of, although miles from the best.
Like many before him he has jumped on the band wagon of various subjects in an attempt to re-hash them all together in order to present his world view.
I am skeptical of those who draw their conclusions from pure quanitive data rather than qualitive..
Examplified in his 'understanding' of the UFO alien phenomena, which is lacking in it's self..
That has been the NUMBER ONE problem with UFOlogy.... everyone jumping on the POPULAR band wagons, no matter if true or not
Linda Mutton Howe put her career on the California Drones...
Dr Lier jumped on the Turkey UFO case...
All the UFO circuit people eventually do it to keep their audience alive...
What is lacking is a concensus... and then on top of that they call each other frauds :P
Thank you for the comments and views on Jim Marrs.
I am aware of somethings with ref to L.M Howe...but not with ref to Drones..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Moulton_Howe
I wonder if anyone can briefly explain
I could only find this on a quick search with her connection with ref to drones.
http://truthfall.com/category/dragonfly-drones-caret/
It seems as if Drones have only became more well established and known in the last few years..but if they have been around for many years.. they certainly could account for numerous UFO sightings..
"Z"
QuoteLinda Mutton Howe put her career on the California Drones.
Quote from: guerande on August 01, 2015, 04:29:41 PM
@Zorgon : so , are you saying Tahoe's Drones are case closed ?
I don't think so , but who knows ???
All the best : )
Guerande
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An added related post to the original thread..
Why the Vatican doesn't think we'll ever meet an alien Jesus.
Scientists are closer than ever to finding out the truth about life beyond Earth. Just last month, NASA excitedly discussed the potential of one exoplanet — Kepler 452b — that appears to be the most Earth-like planet ever confirmed outside of the solar system.
The Vatican is also excited about the prospect of finding alien life. But it has a few things to say on the subject first.
The Vatican's robust astronomy program, run by an Argentinean Jesuit named Father José Gabriel Funes, is part of that search. The Vatican Observatory is headquartered in Italy at Castel Gandolfo, where the Pope has a summer villa. But it also operates a telescope at the Mount Graham International Observatory at the University of Arizona.
The AFP asked Funes about NASA's recent announcement, which he said was "great news."
"It is probable there was life and perhaps a form of intelligent life," Funes said.
But, he cautioned: "I don't think we'll ever meet a Mr. Spock."
[Stephen Hawking announces $100 million hunt for alien life]
Funes has said for years that there's no conflict between the possibility of alien life — even intelligent life — and the teachings of the Catholic Church. "Just as there is a multiplicity of creatures on Earth, there can be other beings, even intelligent, created by God," Funes said in 2008. "This is not in contrast with our faith because we can't put limits on God's creative freedom."
"To say it as St. Francis [of Assisi], if we consider some earthly creatures as 'brother' and 'sister,' why couldn't we also talk of an 'extraterrestrial brother'? He would also belong to creation," he said.
Funes also spoke to the AFP about what discovery of alien life would mean for the church's overall understanding of God's covenants with human beings.
"The discovery of intelligent life does not mean there's another Jesus," he said. "The incarnation of the son of God is a unique event in the history of humanity, of the universe."
He added: "If there was intelligent life (on another planet), I don't see that as a contradiction with the Christian faith."
This theological idea — that if God created aliens somewhere out there, then the Vatican is in no position to say Jesus wasn't for them, too — is pretty consistent with comments from the pope himself about alien life. Last year, Francis said that if an alien being came to him and asked for a baptism, he would obviously oblige:
"If, for example, tomorrow an expedition of Martians came, and some of them came to us, here... Martians, right? Green, with that long nose and big ears, just like children paint them... And one says, 'But I want to be baptized!' What would happen?
"When the Lord shows us the way, who are we to say, 'No, Lord, it is not prudent! No, lets do it this way'... Who are we to close doors? In the early Church, even today, there is the ministry of the ostiary [usher]. And what did the ostiary do? He opened the door, received the people, allowed them to pass. But it was never the ministry of the closed door, never."
When the Vatican talks about this, it often makes allusions to the baptism of Gentiles into the early Christian church, which at first consisted largely of Jewish converts. In Acts, Peter says: "If God gave them the same gift he gave us who believed in the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I to think that I could stand in God's way?"
Vatican astronomer Guy Consolmagno also said in 2010 that aliens who seek baptism should receive it from the church, because "any entity – no matter how many tentacles it has – has a soul."
For now, however, the Vatican's astronomers will keep their eyes on the stars.
There are vast distances between Earth and some of the most promising Earth-like planets in our galaxy, making the possibility of learning about what life is out there – let alone having an alien show up at the Vatican's door and ask for a baptism – seem rather remote. It's certainly beyond the most advanced human technology that exists today.
Funes also had some interesting things to say about where the faithful should turn to for an understanding of the science behind the search for life, telling AFP: "The Bible is not a scientific book. If we look for scientific responses to our questions in the Bible, we are making a mistake."
Instead, he said, the Bible "answers great questions, like 'what is our role in the Universe?'"
And the scientific pursuit of knowledge about life beyond Earth can also "help us to understand ourselves, to understand our potential, but also our limits."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/08/01/why-the-vatican-doesnt-think-well-ever-meet-an-alien-jesus/
Quote astr0144 -Funes has said for years that there's no conflict between the possibility of alien life — even intelligent life — and the teachings of the Catholic Church. "Just as there is a multiplicity of creatures on Earth, there can be other beings, even intelligent, created by God," Funes said in 2008. "This is not in contrast with our faith because we can't put limits on God's creative freedom."
"To say it as St. Francis [of Assisi], if we consider some earthly creatures as 'brother' and 'sister,' why couldn't we also talk of an 'extraterrestrial brother'? He would also belong to creation," he said.
Funes also spoke to the AFP about what discovery of alien life would mean for the church's overall understanding of God's covenants with human beings.
"The discovery of intelligent life does not mean there's another Jesus," he said. "The incarnation of the son of God is a unique event in the history of humanity, of the universe."
He added: "If there was intelligent life (on another planet), I don't see that as a contradiction with the Christian faith."
This theological idea — that if God created aliens somewhere out there, then the Vatican is in no position to say Jesus wasn't for them, too — is pretty consistent with comments from the pope himself about alien life. Last year, Francis said that if an alien being came to him and asked for a baptism, he would obviously oblige:
On this Earth, and because of man's (Adam's) sinful disobedience, God had to make a way for man to (legally/within his Word) to get back to God. And he did that by fathering with Mary a son by virgin birth - and that son was Jesus. It was through the bloodline of Adam that all of Earth have sinned, come short of God, and by sin were given over to satan. Only Jesus was birthed without Adam's sin, and because of that, Jesus took man's sin upon himself, was crucified, buried, and arose from the dead after 3 days, that all Adam's race who would accept him as Savior would be saved from their sin.
So, it seems pretty obvious to me that as long as Adam's bloodline race remains on this planet, there is likely no need for "a Jesus" anywhere else, if there actually are any others anywhere else! :)