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Title: Speed of Light.. can it vary !
Post by: astr0144 on September 27, 2015, 05:41:28 AM
Watching some private video.

A speaker is suggesting that the Speed of light can increase and slow down.

and he said Einstein wanted to change his views on it before he died but the system would not allow it as all the existing books would have needed to be changed.

He gives an example as to how we can envision it as a type of sine wave....that has peaks and troughs..and is of a wave or particle moving in a set direction.

(http://teachsuzukiviolin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/tone-shape.jpg)

Call the 1st wave ...."Wave A"

and that if you run another similar wave of light (Call "Wave B")against the other "Wave A"..but in this eg you see it as being above. and get the waves high and low points to meet..

The Speaker was saying that this effect will cancel or alter  the speed of light on those waves..

He then refers to showing the you get some effects where it alters 90 degrees.


He then gives an example of light being of a Scalar Wave.

and compares it to part of a cars breaking system..

where you have a pipe that contains the break fluid..

and when you push the break pedal.. this pushes the fluid within the break pipe and you get varied to almost immediate to almost instant action to the effects of the breaks acting to stop ones car.

He compares the actions within the liquid of the break fluid.. similar to the photons or maybe within light..or maybe we could envision a similar thing with electricity and moving elections.

and says that that action principle is like moving for one point to another in an instant...or moving one photon or electron from point "a" to point "b".....but rather than a movement of say a single photon or election that the moves say along the eg of a length of breakpipe as described... that the action is done by the whole length of the matter (or fluid in this case) within the breakpipe.

He says this  principle is how Aliens travel so fast from one point to another point in space time.

So I am assuming maybe its like whatever is inbetween the two points..maybe either Space or ether .is some how being acted in an instant. but the Aliens are using the principle of using speed of light to travel.

But maybe they are travelling from point to point some how between points in Space time maybe using a similar principle .

but rather than a  individual thing...seen to being moving over a long length of space...they have a way to transmit along the length that they want to travel with use of the distribution or movement of space time.

It may not be the movement of individual particles, photons elections or what ever along a length or what is between two points...but the reaction of the matter / liquid or ether ,space whats in between  as  to the resulted action or effects as to how the outcome action travelled or occurred .. which is what was the required resulted outcome..

I found it an interesting concept but I am not sure if it is correct.

The speaker also suggest that time does not exist as we think of it..as it changes with velocity...but  that we all go through a series of sequence of events..

He also suggest that the Milky way is surrounded by another galaxy.

Also that the Earth has increased in Mass due to sun and dust particles are building it  up each year and that the gravity effects have been altered.


ETs arrived 250,000 yrs ago...wanting Gold and created us ..












Title: Re: Speed of Light.. can it vary !
Post by: space otter on September 27, 2015, 04:16:43 PM



this wave theory makes me think of  Biorhythms   (look it up  :) )

the basic model is three waves but  in the last years there are many cycles running concurrently
to make up a more complete picture of a functioning human.. I think this may be a good so above (or so surrounding) so below type of comparison

while you can do a breakdown of the percentages of the earths Composition by using the same breakdown of percentages in the body..i figure that it follows that you could use the rythums of the body to study the composition of the universe

but what do I know   8)
Title: Re: Speed of Light.. can it vary !
Post by: astr0144 on September 28, 2015, 06:36:56 PM
You may be correct in your theory.

I also wonder when we mention speed of light, with Light seeming to be both waves & Particles..

Then we compare the electromagnetic spectrum of which light is part of it as light waves. and we also may compare Electricity in terms of flowing electrons traveling through or within a wire..

(which maybe like think of a water particles (water atoms) flowing through a water pipe)

I also wonder how our thoughts to actions may compare in our brain functions that are referred to as electrical activity in our brains.

Is this similar to speed of light or speed of elections or speed of our thought or brain activity.

I keep having some thoughts trying to understand the eg with ref to the description of the car break system.

one eg comes to mind.

IF we were able to have a break pipe one light year in length..
(if that is possible in theory)

and there was almost a vacuum in the pipe. except one single  photon or electron...

if we then had a single atom or election or light photon..at say the break pedal end. then when the break pedal was pressed...
which is done by our thought or brain function. that  the photon would then travel along the pipes direction say in a straight line to try to keep it more simple to understand.

I think I am right in suggesting that if we had a similar comparison to the eg I am referring to as described in my initial post.... that the photon / electron would take 1 year to travel along the one light year length of pipe...thus light particles travelling at the speed of light take a year to travel such a distance. if such an experiment could be set up.

and it would hit the other end of the pipe 1 year later travelling at the speed of light...where normally this would have had an effect on the other end of the breaking system to react to the other parts of the break system that would stop a wheel turning..be it to move the mechanical parts that may clamp on the front break discs...or that react to a piston that moves the break calipers on the rear breaks..

BUT if in another eg , that pipe was full of break fluid...so no vacuum is in the break pipe..

and we pressed the break pedal from our brains thought process.

My impression is if we took one single photon or election within the same break pedal end of the pipe...

this then maybe seen to push on all the other elections / photons that make up the fluid or ether within the break pipe.

and instead of it taking one light year to have effect on the other end of the pipe...of which one single photon would have taken..

the reaction on or at the other end, would be much quicker...

So in this eg its the action process between thought and action to press the pedal....that then reacts to the break system doing its designed function to press  the break pads on the related end parts to the car  wheels  that is the outcome...that seems to happen in almost an instant...

Then, so rather than the actual travel time of a specific photon..taking one year...within the one light year length of pipe eg....

The reaction of the process between the two points between thinking or thought process and action in pressing the break pedal..
and to the actions to react on the other end of the systems mechanical parts in the system, to move the other systems parts that react to stop the wheel turning...

maybe this can be envisioned or seen as "Point A" input  travelling to "Point B" output which is seen as almost instant...in terms of the designed functional outcome

so when Aliens travel through or between  a length of space from "point A" input to "point B" output

but not in a way as to the travel of one particle or photon...

Can or do they do so in terms of the desired outcome. from their thoughts to say press a button on their space ship ..

(similar to pressing the pedal on the car break system) to sending a ACTION (Input ) thru the system to react or act at the other end of that system. giving the output..

so they arrive at the other end of the length of space they are travelling similar to the ACTION within the break system which then gives a reaction / action of the break systems outcome...

but their  outcome is to have travelled similar to the actual ACTIONS ....and be the end reaction or actions EFFECT  OUTPUT at the other end of the system. that as I say is something that happens in an instant..

which would have been down to the reactions of all the other inbetween atoms elections photons & particles etc in between the two ends of the system.


This is purely a brain wave that I am having and trying to think and compare...

I may be missing the concept entirely... but so far this is one way my brain is trying to think about a comparison...

if anyone can try to understand it  ???  :P  :)


Quotethis wave theory makes me think of  Biorhythms   (look it up  :) )

the basic model is three waves but  in the last years there are many cycles running concurrently
to make up a more complete picture of a functioning human.. I think this may be a good so above (or so surrounding) so below type of comparison
Title: Re: Speed of Light.. can it vary !
Post by: A51Watcher on September 28, 2015, 09:23:56 PM
Light can also be bent - by gravity b waves, as evidenced by space images displaying gravity lensing, multiple distorted images of the same galaxy caused by a star bending the light around it.

Bob again mentioned a paradox that bothers him at this years convention, namely how a candle was lit and put next to a E115 reactor and gravity amplifier and once powered up, the flicker of the flame became slower and slower, to where it appeared frozen. However looking back in a minute or so, the flicker had shifted from left to right, so it was not frozen, just moving imperceptibly slow.

What bothers him is that in such a state, he thinks the photons from the light should also have been frozen and not be able to be seen.

Also recall the frame from A51 I posted showing a single craft that momentarily split into two, as a result of space/time distortion.

Observable effects upon photons from different sources also help us define it's true nature. 


Title: Re: Speed of Light.. can it vary !
Post by: astr0144 on September 29, 2015, 12:03:59 AM
I recall egs of it being suggested light bends from Astronomers who for eg look at distant stars when say an object is passing by it like a planet (Maybe of our Solar system) that makes it like a mini eclipse..and I think they shown egs as to how they suggested light would bend on its path towards the viewer.

Also Light can bends or appear distorted when entering a different medium...such as water or at least appear to do so.

Then there is you descriptions of Gravity that may explain the 1st eg above. Would it also be to do with Mass of an object and space time.

QuoteLight can also be bent - by gravity b waves, as evidenced by space images displaying gravity lensing, multiple distorted images of the same galaxy caused by a star bending the light around it.


That Candle story by Bob certainly seems very interesting.

I am curious that you refer to the E115 Reactor and not just a sample of E115...

As when Bob has described about E115.. and given a description of the reactor, I am not sure that he gave much info on what effect the reactor actually had on the sample...

Then there were the Gravity Amplifiers.. and you refer to both..having the effect on the candle. altering the flicker of the flame.


QuoteBob again mentioned a paradox that bothers him at this years convention, namely how a candle was lit and put next to a E115 reactor and gravity amplifier and once powered up, the flicker of the flame became slower and slower, to where it appeared frozen. However looking back in a minute or so, the flicker had shifted from left to right, so it was not frozen, just moving imperceptibly slow.

I wonder why he thinks the photons should have been frozen ?

I am not sure I was aware of that or if  I recall you saying that the Craft split in two..Is this in the more later UFO video that you created ?

It may have appeared to have done so due to the way the video was put together, but was it obvious to the viewer that it had actually done so.

QuoteWhat bothers him is that in such a state, he thinks the photons from the light should also have been frozen and not be able to be seen.

Also recall the frame from A51 I posted showing a single craft that momentarily split into two, as a result of space/time distortion.


Part of The description   that I TRIED to explain was maybe an example as to how Alien Craft may be able to travel such long distances in a very short time.. if some of the theory that I refer to maybe possible. if one can understand what I was trying to explain..

I still need to comment on one of your other threads..in some detail...
Title: Re: Speed of Light.. can it vary !
Post by: A51Watcher on September 29, 2015, 01:12:38 AM
The reactor itself does not amplify gravity.

It only provides power to the amplifiers.


The frames where the craft splits in 2 are from Tourist 7.


Title: Re: Speed of Light.. can it vary !
Post by: astr0144 on September 29, 2015, 01:51:56 AM
I can now see on the video where it appears to split in two or almost appear to do so.

Its hard to tell if it is really splitting in two or if its the way the video is filmed or edited.. to tell if its just a distortion due to the movement of the light / object on the film .

If the object is seen from about 6 miles away..and the camera does not alter its magnification..

I wonder what is the distance across and vertically on the screen if say the object being viewed is say roughly in the centre.
This seems to also vary after 6 seconds into the film.

So when it moves, roughly how far does it appear to move.. and in what time frame.

Parts if not all of the film appear to be slowed down..would that be so ?

After 6 seconds ..(where prior the object appeared to be smaller)... it appears that the camera has zoomed in or the magification was altered when edited.

And at the time it was shot on older technology cameras and equipment...

BUT I have since found your comments (shown below in red) where you say it was shot on a different than standard camera of day...also that you slowed the film down and zoomed in on it...

You do say it was filmed on a unmoved untouched tripod at the time of filming and not hand held as I understand from what you said...I am assuming this is from your trust in the person and that you were also not there at the time.

Also that the craft reached speeds of 40,000 MPH.. :o

At those speeds I am very unsure how a camera would capture such a move..


and I can now see your comments that you made on it..

Either I missed them or had not took them in..

At the time I thought it was taken by Ron Rummel !

but you say it from someone wanting to remain silent.



Quote
Yes, the technology of this camera appears different than standard VCR camcorders of the day.


So Can I ask How did Ron manage to get this video show closer up magnified footage !

That's me zooming in with software.



With regards to the reactor, I was wondering how the technology worked in relation to the E115 sample when it was placed in it..That is to wonder if it does something special that maybe we do not realize when maybe reacting with the Element 115 sample..such as is there something within it maybe material wise that reacts with the samples Electron effects that may not have as yet come about to the Scientists who have since developed the new Element E115..

I think Bob had suggested that there were different types of E115...even at the time he was involved with S4 that react differently.

but I don't recall him ever giving any real detail about what the reactor may do other than him giving us drawings as to how it was made or how it looked... I don't recall him giving any info on the inner parts of its system..or maybe other things that may have been connected to it and had some effects on it other than the Gravity Amplifiers.

That may have been kept secret.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=3540.0



http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=3540.msg50277#msg50277

QuoteThe part I find most amazing in the OP video is where the craft appears to get so far ahead of itself it splits into 2 separate orbs on a single frame   

...then merges back into one, and does so on more than one occasion.


So think about the physics of cameras and how they embed photons on film.

How then are we getting 2 different light sources from the same craft -in a single frame-?   (in this case a millisecond rated at 1/32 of a second.)



I submit that this particular footage demonstrates the time distortion component of the gravity distortion field, as well as the space distortion component commonly seen in Area 51 footage, as the most likely culprit causing these amazing frames.



Quote from: A51Watcher on September 29, 2015, 01:12:38 AM
The reactor itself does not amplify gravity.

It only provides power to the amplifiers.


The frames where the craft splits in 2 are from Tourist 7.



QuoteHe got 45 minutes worth of footage, but as usual the craft did not always appear on film even though it was still visible to the naked eye.

He did not have any incidents with cammo dudes, likely because he was 6 miles away.


I can vouch for the fact he used a tripod that he did not touch, because although it -looks- like someone is waving the camera around wildly and has epilepsy, he in fact does not and seeing maneuvers like this is is actually no big deal and quite common when you are out there viewing these test flights.

Wild maneuvers like this were pretty common for what appeared to be the new pilots, while the more experienced one performed more exact and precise maneuvers.


At one point this craft takes off from zero to roughly 40, 000 mph judging from frames and distance moved.
  :o

But I find the frames shown here even more spectacular!  8)