Okay, i'm in aggression mode. So my apologies if any of the following offends anyone, i'm on steroids, and i just have to vent or i'll have to run down the street and i can't do that cause i have bronchitis/sinus infection).
ANYway, I think it's time to express how all of what i'm reading on the internet is really getting to me in a not so good way. Half the time, I'm getting directed to read topics that i either 1) can't talk about or 2) can talk about but probably better if i didn't or 3) contains information that once again tries to blame me for s h i t, some dudes did 1000 years ago, blame me for being white, for being chrisian for being american for being female for being alive, and on and on and on. I mean after reading this kind of stuff for .........well years now, is it any wonder that i'm getting a little freaked out? How many people who aren't christian or aren't any of that other stuff i mentioned, could put up with the constant blaming for things?
i.can't.handle.it.anymore. i'm just fed up with it! so don't take this wrong but if i see yet another thread about how i'm a horrible person by proxy of whatever, i'm gonna go bonkers! well maybe i'm already a bit bonkers but that's beside the point! ;D
in short, can you cut me some slack? all this negativity against christians or the bible or americans or whatever, is just wearing me out to the point where i can't deal with it anymore. to maintain my sanity and not assume the whole thing is a carefully designed plot to destroy me for just being ALIVE, i mean that is afterall, the extent of my actual connection to most of the s h i t , i get blamed for, by proxy., i have to either not read those kinds of threads, even when a friend of mine ?? ?? ? asks me to read it, or just pull my hair out in big clumps till the negativity passes. i like my hair, so could we avoid that part please?
Beth... I suggest NEVER taking it personally. I read that stuff too, and just know the writer hasn't a clue. I even laugh (laughter is good for the soul, after all).
Take a deep breath (if You can with the illness - may You get better in record time!), center, and feel the shield against negative words surround You. And know it doesn't matter what some Others think. YOU know the truth of You.
For Me, I figure People can blame all They want. Doesn't make it true.
Beth, chill out, hon; when you let it get to you, they are winning; most of those turkeys are just trying to get everyone stirred up, so don't sweat the small stuff, and it's all small stuff... we have bigger fish to fry... ;D
seeker
:)
ah Beth
here's one of the tools i use..hope maybe it will help..the second one takes tons of work..but i know you can do it..think of good old helen reddy
I AM WOMAN ..HEAR ME ROAR.
The Four Agreements...of don Miguel Ruiz
The Four Agreements are:
1. Be Impeccable with your Word: Speak with integrity.
Say only what you mean. Avoid using the Word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others. Use the power of your Word in the direction of truth and love.
2. Don't Take Anything Personally
Nothing others do is because of you. What others say and do is a projection of their own reality, their own dream. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won't be the victim of needless suffering.
3. Don't Make Assumptions
Find the courage to ask questions and to express what you really want. Communicate with others as clearly as you can to avoid misunderstandings, sadness and drama. With just this one agreement, you can completely transform your life.
4. Always Do Your BestYour best is going to change from moment to moment; it will be different when you are healthy as opposed to sick. Under any circumstance, simply do your best, and you will avoid self-judgment, self-abuse, and regret.
for the sinus infection..i know it sounds a bit wierd..but get a nice warm tossle cap to wear to bed
and put a small amount of herbs..preferablly thyme
but sage or oregano are good also
under your pillow case on your pillow where you will inhale them all night
oh..live is best..you can make a small bundle in a handkerchief..no plastic
you can get a small amount of them live in most grocery stores now..in the veggie dept.
and if you really want working wierd..rub raw garlic on the soles of your feet and then warm socks
you will only laugh once....that's before you try it
i hope you can get off the nasty steroids
blessings
otter
thanks for the words of encouragement!
i'm wired. but if i didn't have these steroids right now, i'd be in the hospital, so this is the preferable alternative.
i'm a health nut otherwise, but somethings i just know about my body and one of them is: it ain't coming up, once it goes down, without steroids. i have a long medical history, starting with gulf war syndrome, even though i wasn't in the military. it's contagious. put me in a coma for 5 days on total life support but before it did, it drove me slowly insane by infection swelling my brain, followed by breast cancer, chemo, an infected chemo port which resulted in blood poisoning, and the chemo ruined my eyesight and gave me diabetes to boot. it had a cascade effect. that stuff ruins health and kills people (gws, i mean) by reprogramming dna via mycoplasms, causing neurons to malfunction.
anyway, i already have this victim thing going on because of my rather severe medical history, and to add to that seeing all the constant complaining about christians, white people, females and so on, it gets to you quick when you're already overloaded with it and on meds that make you aggressive.
i apologize!
there is absolutely no need to apologize...honest
consider yourself hugged
otter, You beat Me to it. As I read, I thought... No need to apologize! Let Me offer a big psychic hug!
Then I read Your post.
Beth... No need to apologize. Here comes a BIG psychic hug!
Big hugs to you sister, and some hot tea
and a bunch of herbs from my garden for some
healing broth or soup.
When we are off our game, it seems that the things
we normally can let go get to us. I know I experience
that, especially when we are physically sick.
So no worries, we all have to vent every now and then!
Real friends walk in when everyone else has walked out.
Blessings, hugs, and prayers.
bts~
Being sick is not fun. Being on steroids is not fun. Sometimes ya just hafta let it out. Feel better.
Shasta
undo11, part of your problem is YOU! A big part, maybe.
Two or three things I assume you know, but maybe not staying grounded in - -(I will briefly comment, and you can look them up, if you want to).
For you, as you say who you are -
* And we know that ALL things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. (Romans 8:28) A key for us is "all things"! All All All - And did I mention "All"?
* In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you. (1 Thessalonians 5:17-19) The same key - "In every thing" (same as "all things"), give thanks.
Both of these scriptures include all/every thing you mentioned that has you "wired and troubled". Just get with Him, and do what He tells us!!!!!!
There are many others, like these that are keys God has given us so that we can live our lives, for Him, in this "world". This tells us that our lives, in every way, are dependant upon His love, mercy, and grace, and our "knowing" and "understanding" can set us free from the wiles of this world, being in the world, but not of the world. Using spiritual eyes in our journey, and listening to Him, in His word, sets us free indeed!!!
It really is pretty simple for us. but there is "one" who tries his best to make it otherwise. While I don't know you undo, I assume you are everything you say. And the Word also says "Resist the devil, and he will flee from you"! (James 4:7)
Pretty simple, Huh? Now you know why I said, part of your problem is YOU, because HE is not the problem - He has given us solutions for things like this in His Word/promises!!!
Now, every day can be a good day, for you, in Him!!!
With Him too, forever!
rdunk
rdunk
Quote from: rdunk on February 26, 2012, 06:29:31 AM
undo11, part of your problem is YOU! A big part, maybe.
thanks. i know these things well. i'm an armchair bible scholar. the issues i encounter are more related to accumulation over time of various issues, most of them directly related to survival. the apostles willingly went to their deaths
after they were arrested. however, the first few thousand martyrs, marched right up to the gates of the colliseum and turned themselves in
till peter told them to use their common sense.
and my common sense is telling me that if we don't start speaking up in defense of ourselves as individuals and not just one big stereotype based on 6000 years of human mistakes and tragedies, that we might as well be marching ourselves up to the gates of the colliseum.
i mean i get blamed because moses had some nigh on impossible to defend laws from a christian perspective. but i get them stamped on me as if i agreed wholeheartedly with the situation. how could i, as a christian, agree with that? i couldn't. jesus' message was TOTALLY different. i mean, his approach to our human proclivities was different! completely. different.
i get blamed for the inquistion, when people from my particular brand of christianity were being killed right alongside the gnostics, witches, jews and other religious or world views, that differed from catholicism. (in defense of modern day catholics, i'd also like to point out that they are no more responsible for what happened during the inquisition than blaming modern day pagans for what genghis khan did or the barbarian hordes. we are individuals, not stereotypes!)
and being a mom and wife, i also have the inate spidey sense going off, related to the preservation of my family.
Quote from: Amaterasu on February 26, 2012, 03:26:45 AM
otter, You beat Me to it. As I read, I thought... No need to apologize! Let Me offer a big psychic hug!
Then I read Your post.
Beth... No need to apologize. Here comes a BIG psychic hug!
thanks for the hugs. :D
i got some sleep but my eyes are still a solid sheet of red with some blue in the middle and a little black dot in the center of that. lol whew. the first days of taking steroids is rough. they are the biggest doses, with a tapering off as each day progresses.
like my first batch on day 1 was 6 of them lil buggers! and the 2nd day (yesterday) was 5! that stuff is accumulative too. i was pinging off the walls. my hubby was like "where are you getting your energy?" cause he has the same virus i do and he was all groggy and sleepy and i was like "gibber gibber blah blah blah bork bork oogah oogah" lol poor guy. poor pegasus consortium peeps.
today is only 4. i am spreading them out so maybe that will help.
Quote from: undo11 on February 26, 2012, 11:56:39 AM
thanks for the hugs. :D
i got some sleep but my eyes are still a solid sheet of red with some blue in the middle and a little black dot in the center of that. lol whew. the first days of taking steroids is rough. they are the biggest doses, with a tapering off as each day progresses.
like my first batch on day 1 was 6 of them lil buggers! and the 2nd day (yesterday) was 5! that stuff is accumulative too. i was pinging off the walls. my hubby was like "where are you getting your energy?" cause he has the same virus i do and he was all groggy and sleepy and i was like "gibber gibber blah blah blah bork bork oogah oogah" lol poor guy. poor pegasus consortium peeps.
today is only 4. i am spreading them out so maybe that will help.
Steroids do have that accumulative effect, Undo, and you are wise to spread them out. I do that with any multi day treatment like a z pack, due to the chemicals affecting the body's natural circadian rythyms.
http://www.nigms.nih.gov/Education/Factsheet_CircadianRhythms.htm
They are tested thouroghly, and they found they work better that way, but people will forget to take them if they dont do it every day, so the medical field sets the standard. We can all learn from that standard, and adjust it to our specific physical needs, That's what youre doing now, and it works. Just remember to take them at exactly the same time every day, and preferably not within two hours of sleep. It'll ncrease the effectiveness exponentially if you do that, too!
I dont know you well yet, but there is a huge wind of healing comin' your way, and I know you'll be well soon! Bronch sucks!
Feel better, Littleenki
No need to apologize, Beth, for those of us that have known you for a while realize what you have been through and have had to deal with... just let it out and work on getting better...
((((HUGS)))) ;D
seeker
Quote from: undo11 on February 26, 2012, 11:44:57 AM
rdunk
thanks. i know these things well. i'm an armchair bible scholar. the issues i encounter are more related to accumulation over time of various issues, most of them directly related to survival.
Undo, first I want to say that I have much compassion for you, with all that you have mentioned. Our day to day lives in this world can be the "pits" at times, especially with situations that require dealing with other people. But then, for each of us, we have the lives we have. So, with that in mind, we have to decide how is it for each of us to live in this world, and stand, remaining sane and productive individuals.
While everyone of us has problems and issues, we are all different, and each of us has a different set of problems and issues, with many however being similar. For instance, on a personal note, I was diagnosed 35 years ago with M.S., and I am now a two year survivor after bladder cancer surgery. Everybody - and that is everybody - has their own set of "life circumstances".
Now the key difference for us, as Christians, is that we have spiritual help every step of the way. I handled both of the personal circumstances I mentioned the very same, after being diagnosed, and continuing. I thanked and praised God anyway, and I told Him directly that the M.S. was his problem not mine, and that the bladder cancer was his problem, and not mine. I was His child, and however He dealt with it would be fine with me. As far as I am concerned, he has taken care of both situations!!! All of this included much prayer.
Your being the "bible scholar", (that I am not) you probable know the whole story of Joseph, in Genisis. It touches my heart every time I read it, because it presents the details of the life of hardship that Joseph had. A very hard life, after being sold into Egypt by his brothers. He was just a plain guy, who was having a very hard life. But God always had a plan for him, and "every thing" he was going through were just steps (unknown to him) toward the fulfillment of God's own plan for his life. And he ended up being second only to Pharaoh in Egypt, and was directly responsible for saving his own people in the years of famine.
Undo, I am sorry that you have had so much to deal with personally. But, get those monkeys off of your back, and out of your mind! Give them to God, and tell Him that from now on these are His problems to deal with, and not yours. And "in every thing, give Him thanks"!
By the way, just a note of caution, that you probably know better than I. Knowing what the Word says gets that Word into our minds. But that Word, in our minds/flesh, is lifeless. That Word comes alive in our spiritual hearts and lives, as we accept it, and act upon it, in faith, believing that God will do what he says He will do. That is how miracles are born!!!
Proverbs 16:9 is at the very root of what we are talking about.
Every day will be a better day, until He comes, so let's just start with today!!!! ;D
rdunk
rdunk,
thanks! well i like your style!
by the way, joseph was no plain guy. joseph became a pharaoh. :D
in fact, wanna see his kin?
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/undomiel/14305.jpg)
Quote from: the seeker on February 26, 2012, 04:28:48 PM
No need to apologize, Beth, for those of us that have known you for a while realize what you have been through and have had to deal with... just let it out and work on getting better...
((((HUGS)))) ;D
seeker
thanks. that's a big hug!
Quote from: undo11 on February 26, 2012, 06:24:53 PM
rdunk,
thanks! well i like your style!
by the way, joseph was no plain guy. joseph became a pharaoh. :D
in fact, wanna see his kin?
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/undomiel/14305.jpg)
Hey Undo, I might post these guys as "Mars anomalies! Do you think very many would know the difference??? There is an Egyptian statue on Mars anyway, so, these guys look like martians to me, and should fit right in!!! Might be one of my better anomaly posts!! (obv. just kidding)
(btw, I think you are better already!!)
P.S. - Joseph "was a very plain guy" (just like us), and suffered many trials and tribs. before becoming an Egyptian leader! But God "ordered his steps", just as he does youurs and mine!
Quote from: rdunk on February 26, 2012, 06:52:56 PM
But God "ordered his steps", just as he does youurs and mine!
oh yeah? why ain't i a pharaoh then? :D
pharaoh undo. lol nah doesn't have that umph.
why, when i asked as solomon had, for wisdom not riches, i only got the wisdom but solomon got both? lol
i'd lodge a formal request for record balance sheets but i probably already have a better life than he did, just living now, in this time in human history.
he had slaves to wash his dishes.
i have a dishwashing machine.
he had slaves to cart him around egypt,
i have a car.
on second thought, i am pharaoh undo and you're pharaoh rdunk. and pharaoh the seeker and pharaoh amaterasu. pharaoh zorgon. pharaoh littleenki. wow place is getting crowded. hehe
Undo, I don't know you but I want to offer encouragement. I was on Prednisone for 6 1/2 years. 60, 40 then 20 / off 2 weeks / 60, 40, 20 then gradually reduced over time. Besides making me gain weight, my moods slammed for one end to the other. I have worked law enforcement for 20 years Brevard County and during the last 6 1/2 I had to fight the mood swings from the steroid. It got to the point that I would recognize them coming on (the moods) and I would adjust to them. If I got depressed, I made myself be with people. If I got aggressive, I had to have some quiet time to myself. It wasn't easy.
As far as what people said about me, I treated them with kindness because I was not going to stoop to their level. I cared not about the things people said about me. I treated them with kindness anyway. It kind of disarms people doing that. They start going off on me, I would say "really?" and would not even respond any further to a negative remark. It took me some time to condition myself to the medicine and the idea of responding to other people who wanted to make me miserable.
I hope you feel better and I will pray that you be healed quickly. Hope this helps you in some way.
Quote from: spacemaverick on February 26, 2012, 08:17:58 PM
Undo, I don't know you but I want to offer encouragement. I was on Prednisone for 6 1/2 years. 60, 40 then 20 / off 2 weeks / 60, 40, 20 then gradually reduced over time. Besides making me gain weight, my moods slammed for one end to the other. I have worked law enforcement for 20 years Brevard County and during the last 6 1/2 I had to fight the mood swings from the steroid. It got to the point that I would recognize them coming on (the moods) and I would adjust to them. If I got depressed, I made myself be with people. If I got aggressive, I had to have some quiet time to myself. It wasn't easy.
As far as what people said about me, I treated them with kindness because I was not going to stoop to their level. I cared not about the things people said about me. I treated them with kindness anyway. It kind of disarms people doing that. They start going off on me, I would say "really?" and would not even respond any further to a negative remark. It took me some time to condition myself to the medicine and the idea of responding to other people who wanted to make me miserable.
I hope you feel better and I will pray that you be healed quickly. Hope this helps you in some way.
60?! holy toledo! why so many? that's wow........alot. i'm having a rough time with a 10th of that. well 6 was the first day. this is day three, so i'm supposed to take 4. 60............whew. they'd have to peel me off the ceiling!
undo, if we each knew God's detailed plan for our lives, it might be too scary for us, from an ordinary human standpoint. We each and all are different. He healed blind eyes, but then, not everyone can be blessed in that way, because most of us are not physically blind. I am not so sure that becoming a Pharaoh would actually be a blessing, or not?? In the few historical accounts I am aware of, I think maybe most Pharaohs were not in right standing with God, as they worshipped other Gods.
Of course, our daily lives are to be more about Him, and not about ourselves. Much of what we experience in our lives is relative to the learning/correcting we need, to become more like Him (Jesus). As Christians we have heard about being on mountain tops, and then being in the valleys at times. Well, when we understand what the valley experiences are for, then the shorter our time in the "valleys".
The closer we get with Him, the "more-less" will what others say and do have any influence in/on our daily lives. It is just all about Him, and not about us!
Quote from: rdunk on February 26, 2012, 08:47:27 PM
undo, if we each knew God's detailed plan for our lives, it might be too scary for us, from an ordinary human standpoint. We each and all are different. He healed blind eyes, but then, not everyone can be blessed in that way, because most of us are not physically blind. I am not so sure that becoming a Pharaoh would actually be a blessing, or not?? In the few historical accounts I am aware of, I think maybe most Pharaohs were not in right standing with God, as they worshipped other Gods.
Of course, our daily lives are to be more about Him, and not about ourselves. Much of what we experience in our lives is relative to the learning/correcting we need, to become more like Him (Jesus). As Christians we have heard about being on mountain tops, and then being in the valleys at times. Well, when we understand what the valley experiences are for, then the shorter our time in the "valleys".
The closer we get with Him, the "more-less" will what others say and do have any influence in/on our daily lives. It is just all about Him, and not about us!
well i agree with that! just warn out. had a few too many trials already. i will be fine once the meds are done. just accumulative frustration and disappointment. let me state for the record, there's no pain on this planet that i'm aware of, worse than going slowly insane from a brain infection and not knowing what the freak was going on. that was the worst. almost destroyed my marriage. had he not been a christian and determined to figure out what was going on, and willing to pray, i wouldn't be here now. would've missed seeing my kids grow up and get married. and etc.
worked out good but let me say flat out, i've had babies without pain meds, with pitocin cranking full on inducement, and breech had to be turned during contractions, and THAT was not as bad as going slowly insane. i've had a breast cut clean off and lymph nodes removed at the same time and sent home the same day with nothing but a bottle of percocet and that was not as bad. i feel really bad for people who are suffering with mental diseases. they are really suffering in the worst possible way imaginable. to add salt to the wound, people either make fun of them or try to say they are possessed by evil spirits. it's horriblle.
and that's all i got to say about that.
Wow, yes you have definitely had a heavy load to deal with. Praise the Lord that you are still with us, and He must have good reason for that! ;)
Quote from: rdunk on February 26, 2012, 09:10:56 PM
Wow, yes you have definitely had a heavy load to deal with. Praise the Lord that you are still with us, and He must have good reason for that! ;)
yep, feel like i've already paid my dues x 1,000,000. in fact, the docs at the hospital when i came out of the coma told me the chances of getting that particular disease in their area of the world were like 1,000,000 to 1. i was like, wow, now if i only had those kinda of odds in a good way. didn't dawn on me at the time, that the mere fact i had survived it was probably even bigger odds. lol yep, i'd say that ended up better than it could've, by a long shot.
but wouldn't you like to have those kinds of odds without all the suffering, misery and just flat out bad attached? man, that'd be good stuff right there. well not just the odds but win too. :D
win=good. anybody that tells you win=bad is not being honest lol
well okay, i can see how too much win=bad. but let's discuss what too much win is in the first place. for example, my sis went with a group of ladies to a village in africa. she met a lovely woman who had a beautiful hut, that she kept meticulously clean, even though it had a dirt floor. she was quite proud of it because it had the best dirt floor in the village. the other ladies were envious of her dirt floor. i don't want people to be envious of me. would just like to not have any more major trials in my life, like hostile take overs, christian persecution, and that type of thing. my tribulation already been there done that, thanks anyway! lol
:'( --------------- ;D = your life story! lol
Well, I do use Adam for my crutch, when needed. I blame him for giving birth to sickness and death anyway, for all of us. Before the sin in the Garden there was no such thing. So, if you need the real culprit to blame, blame him, along with the real perpetrator that caused/causes it, which is Satan. He talked them into eating the forbidden fruit, and actually lied about God, to them - ie saying to them, "ye shall shalt not surely die"!
That was the birth of sickness, disease, and physical death, that we to this day continue to experience.
From what I have seen all these years, I think you take things too personally.
Would you react in the same way if someone put the blame of something on American Christians or on the whole human race? To me it looks like you just react to some key words, as if you had been programmed to react that way.
Just relax, re-read things and see if they are targeting you or if you are the one seeing it as a personal attack when it's not.
PS: being an asthmatic I have learned since I was 5 to keep calm as much as possible, so I wouldn't trigger an attack that would send me to the hospital, so it's relatively easy for me to say this, while I know that for most people it's not easy not to get upset.
Quote from: ArMaP on February 27, 2012, 12:49:44 AM
From what I have seen all these years, I think you take things too personally.
Would you react in the same way if someone put the blame of something on American Christians or on the whole human race? To me it looks like you just react to some key words, as if you had been programmed to react that way.
Just relax, re-read things and see if they are targeting you or if you are the one seeing it as a personal attack when it's not.
PS: being an asthmatic I have learned since I was 5 to keep calm as much as possible, so I wouldn't trigger an attack that would send me to the hospital, so it's relatively easy for me to say this, while I know that for most people it's not easy not to get upset.
watch this!
hey, i think i see an anomaly in this moon pic and i'm gonna post it in a minute. :D
watch how long it takes armap to jump on it and say, "what anomaly? i don't see anything. " and then spend as long as it takes to convince you that you're just imagining things, even if it's months of effort.
at least, armap, i'm pointing out a real issue. you're just reacting to somebody else's supposed paradoila or something. does somebody's belief that they can see a building on the moon threaten your life? if so, how? i'm reacting to the very real and currently global, persecution and murder of christians just because they are christian. i'm not prepared to suffer anymore, and i likely never will be.
Life is like a tapestry. We see the back of the tapestry that makes no sense. God sees the front, which is the finished product. Let go and let God......
Quote from: undo11 on February 27, 2012, 01:01:15 AM
at least, armap, i'm pointing out a real issue.
Real or unreal, any issue that affects a person's life or quality of life should be taken seriously.
Quoteyou're just reacting to somebody else's supposed paradoila or something.
It's pareidolia. :)
Quotedoes somebody's belief that they can see a building on the moon threaten your life? if so, how?
Only if I let it upset me enough to trigger an asthma attack, but as I said before, I learned out to not to get upset by any thing, an asthma attack is not something nice.
Quotei'm reacting to the very real and currently global, persecution and murder of christians just because they are christian. i'm not prepared to suffer anymore, and i likely never will be.
If it's not happening in Portugal (and it's not) then it's not global. :)
Quote from: ArMaP on February 27, 2012, 01:45:16 AM
Real or unreal, any issue that affects a person's life or quality of life should be taken seriously.
It's pareidolia. :)
Only if I let it upset me enough to trigger an asthma attack, but as I said before, I learned out to not to get upset by any thing, an asthma attack is not something nice.
If it's not happening in Portugal (and it's not) then it's not global. :)
wow lots of catholics there, i take it ? just read up a bit on the history of portugal. got quite the history there.
This one's for you Undo -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_XBp7llcHY
'I know this... too well'
Quote from: undo11 on February 26, 2012, 06:24:53 PM
by the way, joseph was no plain guy. joseph became a pharaoh. :D
in fact, wanna see his kin?
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/undomiel/14305.jpg)
WOW Those look like...... CLONES :o :o
Quote from: ArMaP on February 27, 2012, 12:49:44 AM
watch how long it takes armap to jump on it and say, "what anomaly? i don't see anything. " and then spend as long as it takes to convince you that you're just imagining things, even if it's months of effort.
Al except two :P There are two he likes :D But I think ArMap might have a stroke if we proved just one to be real.
But I think I know what he is getting at.... my neighbor fought in Vietnam... and after 9/11 every time he hears anything to do with Islam, its's "Those damn towelheads... we oughtta wipe em all out"
People tend to use generalities when pointing the finger at any group be it race, religion or even illuminati :P People inherently know that the entire group is not to blame. People know that modern Catholics abhor the Inquisition as much as we do (well most), People know that all Germans today had nothing to do with Hitler, and (those back in the day had little choice) but that is not how they ACT
Look at the was in Iraq... people were gung ho to go get em, but even Bush said at a press release that Iraq had NOTHING to do with it...
If your in a 'targeted' group.... then naturally you will feel the blows directed at the entire group... but that doesn't mean they are shooting at you.
It also doesn't help though when your a Christian looking at Enki/Sumeria as the source or fore runner to the Bible... it doesn't help when you are into conspiracy sites and your hubby held an above top secret job... these things will by default draw attention to you... and to be sure... attacks by some
Hard to deal with to be sure. 8)
As to the steroids, I hope they help you... you can use a break :D
Quote from: ArMaP on February 27, 2012, 01:45:16 AM
It's pareidolia. :)
Yes that is the word use by skeptics that lack the ability to see beyond ordinary senses :P I have another name for that condition...
Prosopagnosia... the condition that lets you see nothing but rocks :)
QuoteIf it's not happening in Portugal (and it's not) then it's not global. :)
As I said it's human nature to speak in generalities. Sure it's not happening in every nation, but it IS happening in enough nations to consider it a 'global' occurance
I would consider this new push by certain factions within Islam to be akin to what the Ori are doing in Stargate SG1 And that is NOT a good thing. Sharia law has already been adopted in the UK and is threatening in Australia and even Canada... There was a recent case in Montreal where an Afghanistan male had his wife and daughters killed and he will likely go free...
And this report from that other site...
Penn Judge: Muslims Allowed to Attack People for Insulting Mohammad (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread813217/pg1)
QuoteCOMMENTARY | Jonathon Turley, a law professor at George Washington University, reports on a disturbing case in which a state judge in Pennsylvania threw out an assault case involving a Muslim attacking an atheist for insulting the Prophet Muhammad.
Judge Mark Martin, an Iraq war veteran and a convert to Islam, threw the case out in what appears to be an invocation of Sharia law.
The incident occurred at the Mechanicsburg, Pa., Halloween parade where Ernie Perce, an atheist activist, marched as a zombie Muhammad. Talaag Elbayomy, a Muslim, attacked Perce, and he was arrested by police.
Judge Martin threw the case out on the grounds that Elbayomy was obligated to attack Perce because of his culture and religion.
Source (http://news.yahoo.com/penn-judge-muslims-allowed-attack-people-insulting-mohammad-210000330.html)
Be thankful that this crap has not yet hit Portugal... :-X
Back in the 70's when I was naive I actually thought that the world would become a better place, missions to the Moon and Mars and peace for all...
But now I am older and wiser... and I see the world slipping back into the New Dark Ages, where religious persecution is becoming the norm, and no longer shocks anyone. You can see the proof of this at ATS in the number of flags that threads on these topics DON'T get anymore
Quote from: zorgon on February 27, 2012, 06:45:00 AM
I would consider this new push by certain factions within Islam to be akin to what the Ori are doing in Stargate SG1 And that is NOT a good thing. Sharia law has already been adopted in the UK and is threatening in Australia and even Canada... There was a recent case in Montreal where an Afghanistan male had his wife and daughters killed and he will likely go free...
Was it the case of a man, woman and son accused of killing the three daughters? If it was, and as I said on a thread about that on ATS, "honour killings" are not a religious thing, they are a cultural thing, and common from Portugal to Afghanistan, on both the north and south sides of the Mediterranean.
QuoteBe thankful that this crap has not yet hit Portugal... :-X
Maybe that's because most Portuguese, although Christians, are not as fundamentalists as people in other countries like the US, each person has their own religion and do not "advertise" it to people that are not interested in it.
QuoteBut now I am older and wiser... and I see the world slipping back into the New Dark Ages, where religious persecution is becoming the norm, and no longer shocks anyone. You can see the proof of this at ATS in the number of flags that threads on these topics DON'T get anymore
The funny thing about that is that I, an atheist, am one of the few that tries to support the wrongly (or just stupidly) accused, regardless of their religion. :)
ArMaP said: "Maybe that's because most Portuguese, although Christians, are not as fundamentalists as people in other countries like the US, each person has their own religion and do not "advertise" it to people that are not interested in it".
The funny thing about that is that I, an atheist, am one of the few that tries to support the wrongly (or just stupidly) accused, regardless of their religion.
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ArMaP, you for sure are right. Everyone can have their own religion, if that is what they want to do. However, I do suppose they might have to keep "their own religion" to themselves in a lot of places around this world. Even as an atheist, you do have your own "religion", howbeit just without a God.
FWIW, I really like having the true God in my Christian faith! ;)
Quote from: rdunk on February 28, 2012, 02:10:55 AM
ArMaP said: "Maybe that's because most Portuguese, although Christians, are not as fundamentalists as people in other countries like the US, each person has their own religion and do not "advertise" it to people that are not interested in it".
The funny thing about that is that I, an atheist, am one of the few that tries to support the wrongly (or just stupidly) accused, regardless of their religion.
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ArMaP, you for sure are right. Everyone can have their own religion, if that is what they want to do. However, I do suppose they might have to keep "their own religion" to themselves in a lot of places around this world. Even as an atheist, you do have your own "religion", howbeit just without a God.
FWIW, I really like having the true God in my Christian faith! ;)
Nothing wrong with that at all, Rdunk, we were created by something, and it might as well have been God, right? It's a nice way to live my life nevertheless, and will only make me a better person!
Cheers!
Littleenki
zorgon
Quote from: zorgon on February 27, 2012, 05:45:13 AM
WOW Those look like...... CLONES :o :o
now that you mention it! i just happened to think, that came from Seti I. it was part of a larger piece called "The Four Races of Man." seti was attempting to reinvigorate the teachings that his forefathers venerated, to get back to the original information. perhaps that was an example that he knew or his forefathers taught something about the four races of man being clones of the gods, cause that's definitely what it says in the bible and the sumerian texts. by clones i don't have evidence that it means flesh bodies, but i'm guessing that's what it meant.
in other words, we're all nerfed clones of the gods, who, as a result of genetic mutations over time, are even more fudged up than we were when our first ancestors were cloned and then initially hit with the nerf bat.