This is insanity at its greatest.
CHICAGO — A Chicago aerial photography firm was hit Tuesday by the Federal Aviation Administration with a record proposed fine of $1.9 million for flying drones in busy downtown Chicago and New York without permission.
SkyPan International — which provides dramatic aerial photography to dozens of high-end property developers and architects, including the Trump Organization — endangered life and property when it flew 64 unauthorized flights in New York and one just north of Chicago's Loop
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/faa-proposes-nearly-dollar2-million-fine-against-chicago-drone-operator/ar-AAfben9?li=AAa0dzB&ocid=mailsignout
Looks like skypan failed to co operate and pay palm grease to act commercialy in gangsta town.
Every day the world goes deeper and deeper into darkness
So let me get this straight
The FAA dings a big corporation for making profit without a permit and this is a bad thing?
:P
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I like seeing big bizniz get it in the butt, but looking at this is all wrong for the entrepreneurial little people. This case set precedence to how anyone flying a toy drone taking pics and maybe crossing over to small bizniz status acting in a commercial way selling drone service, could be fined millions a bucks when they only make say, 50 bucks to fly over a clients property, take some pics and with a smile, get 50 bucks only to be crushed with 2 million dolla fine for not asking big dot gov permission and having all the rules and permits bought and paid for.
Its all about the money and how much dot gov can fleece the little people. I was sickened by how they used the "endangering life and property 64 times" as if this was a crime against humanity and must be stopped immediately with a fine of 2 million.
If this was a little person just starting out and failed to know they needed permission and all the bs that goes along with flying a drone for commercial purpose, no one other than corporations with deep pockets would be allowed to do so. Which is what we see here in this story.
So if I take my little drone and take pics of someones rural property for 20 bucks and I get caught, they can burn me down for breaking some fools law.
Soon everything will be outlawed as we all become outlaws. Such is the way of this paint em in the corner world.
Quote from: Gigas on October 07, 2015, 07:05:25 PM
So if I take my little drone and take pics of someones rural property for 20 bucks and I get caught, they can burn me down for breaking some fools law.
Or you could avoid fools laws by not being a fool and knowing the laws before you act. :)
In this case, apparently, any commercial use of a drone requires a licensed pilot, a free Section 333 exemption process for general use below 200 feet and a 5 dollars registration for the drone.
PS: in this specific case I agree more with the FAA than with SkyPan International, any company should know the legislation about their operations and answer when contacted by the authorities.
Quote from: ArMaP on October 07, 2015, 08:23:29 PM
Or you could avoid fools laws by not being a fool and knowing the laws before you act. :)
In this case, apparently, any commercial use of a drone requires a licensed pilot, a free Section 333 exemption process for general use below 200 feet and a 5 dollars registration for the drone.
PS: in this specific case I agree more with the FAA than with SkyPan International, any company should know the legislation about their operations and answer when contacted by the authorities.
Or you could not be a fool and be lawfull one day and an unlawfull fool the next because they pass so many foolish laws that little people can't keep up to the enslavement of technological rights. I would bet your a fool one day or other doing something that, in your mind, you should know the law, but don't.
It don't work that easy fella.
Quote from: Gigas on October 07, 2015, 09:12:02 PM
I would bet your a fool one day or other doing something that, in your mind, you should know the law, but don't.
You would lose your bet, I know if any thing I do is legal or not and I am used to keep updated about the laws I really need to know (mostly those linked to invoice software, the main selling product of the company where I work). :)
Quote from: ArMaP on October 07, 2015, 09:32:59 PM
You would lose your bet, I know if any thing I do is legal or not and I am used to keep updated about the laws I really need to know (mostly those linked to invoice software, the main selling product of the company where I work). :)
Stop it, you're making me laugh.
QuoteOr you could avoid fools laws by not being a fool and knowing the laws before you act. :)
Ya know, I think you just insulted everyone on this forum with that. Especially the poor guy in this forum who's home was stolen from him by the law changing the rules to his lawful defense.
You should consider an apology to these people and myself.
You have no idea of laws in the states, therefore you are flawed in stating you only act in a lawful manner knowing laws in everything you do. You could do something foolish here that's not foolish there yet never be sure of right or wrong. You wouldn't even know until hooked up, arraigned and charged for some petty offense that you want us to believe you have an omnipotent handle on.
No one, and I mean no one knows what the law will bust you for. So you have no actual clue if your right or wrong, lawful or unlawful.
Have a nice day ;D
Quote from: Gigas on October 08, 2015, 01:00:26 AM
Ya know, I think you just insulted everyone on this forum with that. Especially the poor guy in this forum who's home was stolen from him by the law changing the rules to his lawful defense.
How did I insult him if the laws changed after his actions and my sentence says "knowing the laws before you act"?
QuoteYou should consider an apology to these people and myself.
I don't see any reason for that.
QuoteYou have no idea of laws in the states, therefore you are flawed in stating you only act in a lawful manner knowing laws in everything you do.
I wasn't talking about the laws in the US, as I live in Portugal my actions are only affected by Portuguese laws (except in the cases where I'm under other country's laws, as when posting on some site that states that posters agree to comply to the law of this or that country/state).
And I didn't state that I only act in a lawful manner, I said that I know if what I do is legal or not, which is not the same thing. :)
Nice try, stop the back peddling. You called those who don't know the foolish laws, fools if they don't know the foolish law, ok. Remember, you are in Portugal and not in the states, so careful on how you want to be read.
Anyway, here's more foolish bs about drones and I have to wonder if this guys gonna be fined for taking pics of his neighbors home for them.
Man shoots neighbor's $1,200 drone out of the sky after his wife felt it was watching her in the garden
A man shot his neighbor's drone out of the sky after his wife said it made her feel like she was being watched while out in the garden.
Aaron Hernandez was flying his $1,200 drone with a camera attached at his father's home in St Amant, Louisiana, when Derek Vidrine started firing at it.
Vidrine, who had his gun with him as he was hunting squirrels on his property, disabled the drone with his first shot, leaving it hovering in the sky.
As Hernandez ran round to say he would not fly the aircraft again, his neighbor blasted it out of the sky with a second bullet.
'The drone was flying about 20ft over our slip 'n' slide. It stayed there about an hour. We didn't know what it was,' Vidrine said.
He said he ignored it at first, thinking a child may have been flying the aircraft, but eventually decided to follow the drone to see who was at the controls.
When he found Hernandez holding a remote in his garden, Vidrine says his neighbor ran inside realizing he had been caught.
The complaints are the first the sheriff's office has received about drones and there no state laws prohibiting their use in Louisiana.
However FAA guidelines recommend pilots get permission from property owners before flying drones over their land.
Drones are also not permitted to fly above sports matches, large gatherings or over 1,200ft.
No drone can fly for an hour and what kind of weirdos claim it was a drone but than say they didn't know what it was. Maybe it was a ufo. In that case this crazy guy with the gun may shoot a ufo and start a galactic war.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3263579/Man-shoots-neighbor-s-1-200-drone-sky-wife-felt-watching-garden.html
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Quote from: Gigas on October 08, 2015, 01:32:58 AM
Nice try, stop the back peddling. You called those who don't know the foolish laws, fools if they don't know the foolish law, ok.
Don't take what I wrote out of the context in which it was written, it was an answer to your post about getting money from the use of a drone and it was specifically for the situation being discussed, of a company or "entrepreneurial little people" that want to make money using their drones, that's why I wrote about "knowing the laws before you act", as you should know what you can and cannot do before committing your time and money in some kind of enterprise.
QuoteRemember, you are in Portugal and not in the states, so careful on how you want to be read.
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by that. ???
In California there is a sign in the Forest that says you need a PERMIT to take pictures of the TREES :D I took a picture of that sign :P
The intent is to tax commercial photographers who sell the pictures but seriously California has some really foolish laws :D
As for the drones just flying around... what about MY right to privacy and not have to put up with your drone buzzing around my house and taking pictures of all the women sunbathing naked by my pool (behind an 8 foot wall :P
I think I will get me a Hawk trained to attack drones :P
Quote from: zorgon on October 08, 2015, 12:07:16 PM
I think I will get me a Hawk trained to attack drones :P
You will probably need a license for that. :P
well we have a gate at the side of the drive so no one can get to the barn and further..it's was smashed twice by a pissed off kid who we didn't give permission to hunt..i let it be know that I had gotten a paint ball gun that I could shoot from the bedroom window to ID the perp...
no more problems
then I found out the kid went to the army came out bought a bunch of guns and is now in jail for various crimes...
BUT the funny ha ha is that every now and then I over hear some much younger kids talking about watching out for that crazy lady with a paintball gun that shoots at people on the street...
even though they have no idea it's me.. 8)
the ha ha ha is that I never did buy the dang thing but spreading the word that I had one has been lots of fun
also tells you how to become a legend on your street...well some street..they don't know which one any more either ::)
bwhahahahahahah
hubby says who wins when your rights step on my rights...spread the word you'll shot the camera with a paintball ;D...you were just practice and opps ;D ;D ;D