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UFO's and Aliens => UFO's and Aliens => Topic started by: astr0144 on December 19, 2015, 01:27:42 AM

Title: Roswell Debris as shown in "Secret History of UFOs" Video
Post by: astr0144 on December 19, 2015, 01:27:42 AM
I watched a This TV program called "Secret History of UFOs"...


It showed its version of How the debris looked at the Roswell Crash.  (Unfortunately I am unable to find the video of it or any images of what I am referring to) but I do not think that I had seen anything before quite like the way it shown the debris...in other various Programs done on Roswell that I have seen so far.

Upon seeing this Film version... It made the debris very much look like it was some sort of Aluminium Foil type of material ..and made  to look like what one may envision one of those Balloons (that the Downed Object was claimed to be) , and it looked as if a Silver Foil type balloon  had been ripped to pieces and scattered all over the area.. and it looked very realistic for the way they filmed the program...

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/c5/a2/75/c5a27564f828e0efcd3a03272fe9ff7d.jpg)

Then some skeptic said that all the talk that it was a UFO and the material was something special and could not be damaged or that it was able to reshape its self if flexed.. YET it was  broken into many pieces all over the Field..

So it was Not indestructible in the  other ways maybe it was suggested..

Whether he was suggesting that if it was hit by Lightening , that if the material was so special, that he would have not have expected it to be damaged and broken by it or not.. that I am not sure about !   The Question maybe was his point valid or not ?

but showing the film of the scattered debris , that did look very much like Silver type foil and making his comments.. did create a vision or raise thoughts that it appeared to be a Foil Like Balloon that was scattered all over the land...

The Images below are just the only general ones that  I could find that relate to what I wanted to post...But...They are NOT the ones shown in the film that I wanted to show..

(http://unsolved.com/sites/default/files2/ufo_roswell3.jpg)

(http://unsolved.com/sites/default/files2/ufo_roswell2.jpg)

Secret History of UFOs..

Documentary examining whether reported UFO sightings across America could be real, despite the lack of scientific proof to back them up. Bringing together eyewitness testimony, expert opinion and archival video and photos, the programme investigates some of the most significant alleged UFO sightings in history, analyses the evidence and considers whether or not they are credible.
Title: Re: Roswell Debris as shown in "Secret History of UFOs" Video
Post by: Dyna on December 19, 2015, 07:11:44 PM
I honestly doubt any military personnel would jump to the idea of UFO debris unless there was something beyond some scattered foil and balsam wood.

I also can't see a base leader notifying the news without something far beyond that.
Title: Re: Roswell Debris as shown in "Secret History of UFOs" Video
Post by: astr0144 on December 20, 2015, 05:52:04 AM
Without rechecking /reminding myself of the
various or certain facts..

I find it difficult to recall the facts in the Roswell Incident as there seemed such a lot said about it..

So I can only write a few possibilities that comes to mind at the moment..

Was the Video that I refer to ...trying to suggest something that it may had been a Weather Balloon involved...

(That unfortunately at the Moment you have not been able to see..as I cant find a copy to post to show.(But may have one in the future) )

I cannot say that I recall at the moment how other similar videos / films about Roswell may compare.

But this particular video MAY be trying to suggest that the Debris was of a Weather Balloon or something else other than a UFO that had been  broken up into many pieces, with what looks like it was made of a type of Silver Foil like material.

So is Maybe this Video trying to convince the viewers that it may have been a Balloon or something non UFO !...One reason being that they went to a LOT of trouble to make it appear that way IMO..as in the video there seemed a VERY Lot of foil scattered over the area that it showed and it looked VERY Silvery shiny like Cooking Silver Foil...thats what stood out to me on seeing this part of the film...

So is it an attempt to strengthen the cover up Story if Roswell Was a Real UFO Incident ?

OR if  the Roswell UFO incident  was a Hoax...and really was a Weather Balloon... When it was initially discovered..as much as It may have been claimed to have been a UFO..was there any real proof..eg a Photo Taken by the Land Owner...(maybe since confiscated)

If it was some sort of real Craft.. then the Landowner who witnessed or discovered it.. seems to have decided to either contact the Police or Military... SO that would be why the Military would turn up..

So many would turn up initially if it was a real Craft or maybe some sort of Special project Balloon (If say the Balloon had some connection to them or maybe something of Importance).


Otherwise I agree it may not seem a valid reason to
have the Military involved..if it was JUST a Weather Balloon.


But then there was mention that the Balloon may have not been just a weather balloon..but that it was used to do some sort of secret project /mission in carrying crash Test Dummies.   

SO that probably would be connected with either the Military or some sort of Secret Project.. and that may or probably would bring it to the Military's attention .. and would have so many at least initially turn up..


Just how long this would go on for until they did what they had to do and How many would be eventually involved.. I am uncertain about.. (Without rechecking the facts and if that info is available)

If they were at the location for a longer time maybe than we would expect.. then I agree that it would seem unlikely that they would be at the place more than a few days, just for a broken up Balloon or to remove crash test dummies.   

If I recall later it had been suggested that some operations had gone on that may have been secret but carried the Crash dummies.

And if they had to find what ever it was if it had broken up.. they may have to spend a Long time searching for all the debris..as they would not want to chance anyone finding parts of it.

So if that was the case.. IMO it could account for a lot of military being involved...for such another reason other than it being a UFO.

So maybe it is a question of..

Was there really some secret project going on , that involved either Balloons or Crash test Dummies or a secret man made craft...in which what they claim could account for another incident other than it being a UFO..

IF there is NO proof of that.. then I would agree why Were the Military there..

But there has been film footage provided to show that such balloons  and test crash Dummies have been used for the reasons that they suggest.

I would have thought however..that a Balloon and some Crash Dummies would not be that important... unless there was say something else  connected to  the dummies, like a special secret Air or space craft or something..where they may have placed dummies in it and were say doing a crash test....

BUT How and why that would crash on some land owners private land I don't know..(Unless the landowner was in on a hoax or paid to be involved in it) as surely they could test crash some thing in much other suitable locations..   unless this was something that went wrong and say was hit by lightening unexpectedly while on the way to other locations..


Another possibility is that they created the whole incident..and are using it to make the public or maybe other Nations (such as Russia)believe in the possibilities in UFOs...and they can use that for various reasons in the future.. maybe the CIA were involved in creating such a incident...

and that also could involve denying it and coming up with other reasons behind it all....knowing that many will then question their cover up stories and maybe believe it even more..

that's just another possibility that I can think off..

(IF say UFOs and ETs do Not really exist)

I myself am not saying if I believe it or not.

but I am  just giving some other suggestions on the story that came into my mind when I watched the video based upon my observations and thoughts on it.

Dyna
QuoteI honestly doubt any military personnel would jump to the idea of UFO debris unless there was something beyond some scattered foil and balsam wood.

I agree , not just for a Weather Balloon...but maybe so,  if  some of the reasons that I refer to above.

QuoteI also can't see a base leader notifying the news without something far beyond that.
Title: Re: Roswell Debris as shown in "Secret History of UFOs" Video
Post by: ArMaP on December 20, 2015, 02:04:55 PM
Is it this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si-HrGnjZ1U
(for some reason the video isn't starting at 29:04 as it should)
Title: Re: Roswell Debris as shown in "Secret History of UFOs" Video
Post by: astr0144 on December 20, 2015, 03:51:17 PM
Hi ArMaP,

Unfortunately the video that you have posted and most others on youtube that I found so far , with the same associated titles...I am unable to watch some in my Country... as I get a message saying so.

Quote
This video contains content from Channel 5, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.

Others with the same title differ in length and  do not seem the same video. (I only skimmed thru them but there is a way to do so without watching the whole video as it shows the images when you run your mouse over it) The One I watched was only about 1 hr long... some on youtube were like the one you posted and were longer..

I could initially however see an image on the video you posted, before I clicked on it , of what looked like an image from the "X Files" where the Cigarette Cancer  man is walking down a isle between two large shelves containing what we may assume as the X Files storage area.. I seem to recall that in the video I watched.

If you are able to watch it and could see something related to what I tried to describe... then it may be a slightly longer version of it..

For anyone in the UK it will be repeated on Dec 23rd..or may show up on channel 5s demand channel that shows repeats on this channel..

http://www.channel5.com/shows/secret-history-of-ufos

I don't know if you can view the link outside the UK..
at the moment they are not allowing it to replay..but may do so after its shows on Dec 23rd..

Theres a New Channel on Freeview called Spike where it says it will show a replay on Dec 23rd..

QuoteSpike
Wed 23:00 23 Dec

It maybe a relatively new video...But I think it was shown on another certain channel in 2014..Maybe on one of the Sky type channels..like "Discovery".

Quote
Out of this world
Do UFO sightings deserve scientific study, or are they merely the creation of our own imaginations?

This programme investigates some of the most significant alleged UFO sightings in history, analyses the evidence and considers whether or not they are credible.

QuoteFrom military reports and radar readings, to pilot accounts and eyewitness testimonies, sightings of unidentified flying objects have captured the public's fascination for decades. Despite hundreds of photos and videos of purported UFOs, we still have no scientific proof we're being visited by extra-terrestrials. Do UFO sightings deserve scientific study, or are they merely the creation of our own imaginations?


Quote1 hour
First broadcast at 21:00 28 Apr 2014