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Title: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: zorgon on February 04, 2016, 03:37:32 AM
Scientists Finally Prove 'Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth'

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QuoteTop leading SCIENTISTS who have been seeking evidence of anti-matter in space have recently claimed to have stumbled across a previously unknown "invisible life form" here on Earth, which could quite possibly be SPYING on us all!  Could this be the proof that we need to confirm that we are not alone and being visited by Alien Beings?  Quite possibly.

It is a successful corporation called Thunder Energies, which is an optics, nuclear physics and energy company, who have claimed to have detected "invisible entities" living in Earth's atmosphere and watching over us all!

Harvard-educated Italian-American nuclear physicist Dr Ruggero Santilli is the controversial guy that runs the corporation.

Dr Ruggero Santilli is actually dismissed by many mainstream scientists as a "fringe scientist" but he has in turn branded the rejection of his work as a conspiracy against "novel science" which often conflicts with established thinking, such as Einstein's theory of relativity – sadly the masses of this planet are too brainwashed to realise sometimes that there may be more than meets the eye to 'what's really going on!

Please check out the video to their exciting find (actually a rather interesting video):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gRC2q_VLEM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gRC2q_VLEM

QuoteThe nuclear physicist says the discovery was 'accidentally' made using the Santilli Telescope he has developed to try to discover proof of theoretical anti-matter galaxies, anti-matter cosmic rays and anti-matter asteroids.

The research team are concerned that the previously unknown micro-lifeforms may be carrying out covert surveillance on Earth because of where they have been discovered.

Mr Santilli uses a concave lens, which is actually the opposite to the convex lenses of standard telescopes.  His telescope is still pending a trade mark and patent, but Mr Santilli is convinced it has been able to pick up a life form which cannot be seen by the naked eye – but sadly it is not a surprise at how much negative feedback Mr Santilli has received from the mainstream media.

Mr Santilli recently said:

"This is an exciting discovery. We do not know what these entities are, they're completely invisible to our eyes, our binoculars, or traditional Galileo telescopes, but these objects are fully visible in cameras attached to our Santilli telescope.

"Since the dawn of our civilisation, all the way to the time of this breaking news, we humans have believed that everything that exists up there is only what we can see with our eyes and with our optical instruments.

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The TRUTH is coming! Art by Raphael Terra

"Well things have changed now because we have established the existence of entities that are existing in our terrestrial environment – these are invisible to our eyes and optical instruments, but are fully visible with new instruments, therefore dramatically enlarging our conception of the perceivable universe with far reaching possibilities of future developments and discoveries that are perhaps beyond our imagination at this time." He said.

Mr Santilli has claimed to have detected "at least two types" of Invisible Terrestrial Entities (ITEs), which leave a dark image in a bright background of a digital cam attached to the telescope, and bright ITEs which do the opposite.

Santilli has claimed that the findings, which were published as "Apparent Detection via New Telescopes with Concave Lenses of Otherwise Invisible Terrestrial Entities (ITE)," in the American Journal of Modern Physics, have been "independently verified" by unnamed US astronomers.

But in the video released by his corporation on YouTube, Dr Santilli gave his findings a more sinister twist.  He said:

"The question of what those entities are must be answered by our government because these entities appear to be conducting unauthorised surveillance of rather sensitive civil, industrial and military installations."

Dr George Gaines, president of the corporation, is also fully backing the research.  He went on to say:

"What we have learned is reality is much bigger than we originally supposed. "Things we can see and things we can't see with our eyes or standard telescopes.

"The Santilli telescope allows us to see things that we have never seen before."

The corporation are pushing this important find out into the public domain and are determined to try and discover exactly it is they witnessed on their powerful/clever telescope.  Santilli said that it is "nothing to do with money, its about discovering the truth!"

U.I.P SUMMARY – It was only a matter of time until somebody somehow discovered a way of highlighting what is going on out there above planet earth and it appears that this could be the beginning of something huge!

We have all seen many report and photographs of what appears to be cloaked craft in the skies above earth, could this be the new way of getting confirmed footage of what's going on? Well to us guys at U.I.P YES most definitely! We are trying our hardest to arrange an interview with Mr Santilli to ask him some very straight talking questions – watch this space!

Perhaps footage like this is something that we can now look at in more detail with this technology – http://www.ufointernationalproject.com/latest-news/cloaked-ufo-caught-on-camera-coming-out-of-the-pacific-ocean/

MWV

http://www.ufointernationalproject.com/ufo-photos-and-videos/scientists-finally-prove-invisible-alien-entities-are-here-on-earth/
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: The Seeker on February 04, 2016, 05:25:51 PM
Interesting, Z; some of the images look a lot like your plasma critters...

I can hear the gates opening now in 3,2,1...


seeker
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: funbox on February 04, 2016, 05:33:02 PM
Quote from: the seeker on February 04, 2016, 05:25:51 PM
Interesting, Z; some of the images look a lot like your plasma critters...

I can hear the gates opening now in 3,2,1...


seeker

indeed , but if antimatter is coagulating into multi/singular perspective entities , what correlation do these entities have with normal Matter , and why are they not annihilating things that they're sharing space with /?

some kind of self regulatory containment of some sort ?


funbox
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: Dyna on February 04, 2016, 08:45:27 PM
Quote from: funbox on February 04, 2016, 05:33:02 PM
indeed , but if antimatter is coagulating into multi/singular perspective entities , what correlation do these entities have with normal Matter , and why are they not annihilating things that they're sharing space with /?

some kind of self regulatory containment of some sort ?
funbox

Quote"This is an exciting discovery. We do not know what these entities are, they're completely invisible to our eyes, our binoculars, or traditional Galileo telescopes, but these objects are fully visible in cameras attached to our Santilli telescope.

I was thinking they may be normal matter simply not visible to us. I keep thinking of my cat constantly chasing something invisible always in the same area of the dining room! We had another cat come in and first time she went right to the dinning room and started jumping at the wall and her eyes following something back and forth.

Maybe we have disturbed some creatures by using HARP. Maybe we are now at war by messing up their living area of our atmosphere! :o
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: funbox on February 04, 2016, 10:18:12 PM
Quote from: Dyna on February 04, 2016, 08:45:27 PM
I was thinking they may be normal matter simply not visible to us. I keep thinking of my cat constantly chasing something invisible always in the same area of the dining room! We had another cat come in and first time she went right to the dinning room and started jumping at the wall and her eyes following something back and forth.

Maybe we have disturbed some creatures by using HARP. Maybe we are now at war by messing up their living area of our atmosphere! :o

ide imagine such creatures would have been peeved years ago with the amount of air traffic alone.. but im still having trouble with the telescopes they're using , I cannot find much info about them

funbox
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: Ellirium113 on February 04, 2016, 10:46:32 PM
If these were physical entities wouldn't radar pick them up or thermal imaging?
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: zorgon on February 04, 2016, 10:52:57 PM
Quote from: Ellirium113 on February 04, 2016, 10:46:32 PM
If these were physical entities wouldn't radar pick them up or thermal imaging?

Well does radar pick up the Plasma Critters and Orbs?   If there is nothing solid to reflect the radar beam, then it wouldn't

Same with stealth craft that have a plasma skin or force field  It would deflect or bend the radar beam, but not return a signal

Stargate SG1 did an episode on the invisible creatures too  They were 'out of phase' with our world
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: astr0144 on February 04, 2016, 11:37:01 PM
I think that It maybe  that most advanced ETs will be able to avoid almost most detection.. be it from their Craft or themselves..

if so , they maybe or have always been all around us.

but then there maybe a question as to why ?

Why if they were here sometime would they continue to be remain hidden for so long !

Providing if they were seen as a threat or not..

Would they not have found ways to either subtly get us to accept or adapt to them !

that's one of the main issues that I have in considering such a suggestion ...



QuoteWell does radar pick up the Plasma Critters and Orbs?   If there is nothing solid to reflect the radar beam, then it wouldn't

Same with stealth craft that have a plasma skin or force field  It would deflect or bend the radar beam, but not return a signal

Stargate SG1 did an episode on the invisible creatures too  They were 'out of phase' with our world
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: Dyna on February 05, 2016, 01:03:13 AM
Quote from: funbox on February 04, 2016, 10:18:12 PM
ide imagine such creatures would have been peeved years ago with the amount of air traffic alone.. but im still having trouble with the telescopes they're using , I cannot find much info about them

funbox

Maybe they used to stay in the upper atmosphere but it is now to energetic.
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: funbox on February 05, 2016, 03:29:44 AM
Quote from: Dyna on February 05, 2016, 01:03:13 AM
Maybe they used to stay in the upper atmosphere but it is now to energetic.

well if you have some spare cash you can have a look to see how they're fairing

http://thunder-energies.com/docs/100mm-prices.pdf

sort of a mid range :D

if you're flush though ..
http://thunder-energies.com/docs/150mm-prices.pdf

funbox
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: zorgon on February 05, 2016, 03:35:25 AM
Quote from: astr0144 on February 04, 2016, 11:37:01 PM
I think that It maybe  that most advanced ETs will be able to avoid almost most detection.. be it from their Craft or themselves..

That presupoosed hoards of Aliens visiting weekly   to what end?

Quoteif so , they maybe or have always been all around us.
but then there maybe a question as to why ?

Plasma Critters were first identified and names Critters by Trevor Constable in 1954 and Wilhiem Riech who surmised they feed on Orgone energy.  As to why? Well they live here on earth and LEO  Always have...  Been sighted for generations, just identified as other things like ghosts, spirits, whisps, ghost light, foo fighters, orbd   etc  etc

QuoteWhy if they were here sometime would they continue to be remain hidden for so long !

Because they are normally invisible  until they 'feed' Then they glow for a while and we see them

QuoteProviding if they were seen as a threat or not..

Have you never wondered why the Military says "they pose no threat to national security"?  No CRITTER has ever killed anyone. Shutting down that nuke site in the 60's was an accident  Bad electronics reacted to their energy field and triggered a cascade shut down

QuoteWould they not have found ways to either subtly get us to accept or adapt to them !

LOL Well the first time they did was during WWII when we flew airplanes  They were curious and buzzed around. And have we not accepted and adapted to them? The whole new age religion is all about glowing orbs :P

But I don't think they can communicate with us directly  Just show curiosity and buzz around like moths to a flame.  I know new age 'channelers claim they can but I don't believe 99.99% of what any of that crowd says

Quotethat's one of the main issues that I have in considering such a suggestion ...

Well google "Plasma Life Forms"  You will be amazed at how much pops up, including in main stream science
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: zorgon on February 05, 2016, 03:36:47 AM
Quote from: Dyna on February 05, 2016, 01:03:13 AM
Maybe they used to stay in the upper atmosphere but it is now to energetic.

I am pretty certain they 'breed' in the atmosphere. Only the bigger ones get into LEO

I do have one video of a Critter giving birth :D
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: astr0144 on February 05, 2016, 05:22:27 AM



I recall some of your past posts on other threads to do with Plasma Critters etc prior to this one "Z"..

maybe my reply should have been related elsewhere..

I was not referring just to Plasma like critter Aliens..

My imagination on such things would be that these things are more like Jelly Fish we get in the seas... except that the Plasma Critters live in around the higher earths atmosphere...and I imagine them only having similar Intelligence to Jelly Fish !

Are you suggesting that the Critters are advanced ETs ? that where able to fly around aircraft in the 1940s ?

is that also to suggest that they may have prevented a Nuke disaster ?

I was main referring to more advanced like  ETs such as maybe Greys or Tall Whites..more human like beings ..remaining elusive.. with both their craft technology and maybe even themselves..


QuotePlasma Critters were first identified and names Critters by Trevor Constable in 1954 and Wilhiem Riech who surmised they feed on Orgone energy.  As to why? Well they live here on earth and LEO  Always have...  Been sighted for generations, just identified as other things like ghosts, spirits, whisps, ghost light, foo fighters, orbd   etc  etc
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: Dyna on February 05, 2016, 08:09:36 PM
Weirdness and aliens
Electrical creatures maybe we have ignored?
Could sprites be life? How long does a fruit fly live? Length of existence does not mean it has no life.
Fireball reports
http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/bl.html
These two could be amongst these when I get time to look.

Does anyone remember the report of the ball of light that entered a car at a stop light through the window, no storm...it burned on person and went back out of the car. The same happened in a house a ball entered through the wall in the kitchen a Man and Wife watched it go into a couple of cupboards, they said it moved as though intelligent, I believe the wife was burned before it left.

QuoteScientists in the U.K. have examined a tiny metal circular object, and are suggesting it might be a micro-organism deliberately sent by extraterrestrials to create life on Earth.The University of Buckingham reports that the minuscule metal globe was discovered by astrobiologist Milton Wainwright and a team of researchers who examined dust and minute matter gathered by a high-flying balloon in Earth's stratosphere.

"It is a ball about the width of a human hair, which has filamentous life on the outside and a gooey biological material oozing from its centre," Wainwright said, according to Express.co.uk.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/03/aliens-send-space-seed-to-earth_n_6608582.html

HAVE WE FOUND ALIEN LIFE?
MICROBES THAT EAT AND BREATHE ELECTRICITY HAVE FORCED SCIENTISTS TO REIMAGINE HOW LIFE WORKS—ON THIS PLANET AND OTHERS
QuoteAfter a two-year search, Nealson succeeded in identifying the manganese thief, a bacterium that functioned unlike any he had ever known. "As soon as I saw what Shewanella could do, I just went wacky," Nealson says. "I called all my students into the lab and I said, 'This is a very, very important organism to understand. Nobody's going to believe it. It's going to take us 10 or 15 years to convince the world it's true.'?"
http://www.popsci.com/have-we-found-alien-life

QuoteWhat Are The Mysterious Marfa Lights?
https://curiosity.com/memes/what-are-the-mysterious-marfa-lights-curiosity/#meme-capturing-mysterious-ghost-lights-in-marfa-texas-seeker-stories

Lights and more lights 9list of some)
QuoteThe Brown Mountain Lights are unexplained illuminations
http://inamidst.com/lights/

The Naga Fireballs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naga_fireball
QuotePhenomenon of Naga fireballs is not too well documented in earlier times. Some say that Wat Luang temple (in Phon Phisai, Wat Pho Luang Phra Sai) contains centuries old written records mentioning them. There are mentioned also occasional written reports from British soldiers in the 1960s - although nothing concrete is cited. Numerous local people claim that they have seen the lights for all their life and their parents and grandparents did it as well.
http://www.wondermondo.com/Countries/As/Thailand/NongKhai/NagaFireballs.htm

Are these weird things in the sky really manmade?
Is covert technology used to create balls of light in the sky?
http://www.treurniet.ca/bigpic/orbtech.htm

Events with the balls of light are numerous!
QuoteThe orb reacted by backing away slightly.  Illuminated by my headlights, I could plainly see that there were no mechanical parts or structure. I slammed the gearshift into rive, and floored it. I wanted to put as much distance between that thing and me as fast as possible. I warily glanced in the rear-view mirror and was horrified to realize that it was pursuing me down the road at 90 mph."
http://ufophenomenon.weebly.com/intelligent-light-forms.html

QuoteEarth lights' are or were known to traditional and ancient peoples: they were fairies to the Irish and other Celtic peoples, though also harbingers of death known as 'corpse candles' to the Welsh; the disembodied heads of women who had died in childbirth to Malaysians; the lanterns of the chota admis, the little men, according to the people of the Darjeeling area; manifestations of Bodhisattvas to Chinese and Tibetan Buddhists, who built temples where such sightings occurred; they were devils to people in western Africa, and so on and so forth.

But can exotic phenomena like these still be eluding science? Well, why not – look at the recent discoveries of gigantic light phenomena like ELVES, a discoid type lightning of enormous size, and SPRITES, multi-coloured discharges of energy rising thousands of feet above some thunder clouds. And remember, science still cannot adequately explain ball lightning!

Another type of observation noted in witnesses' reports from all times and places that has impressed me is that the lights sometimes display illogical effects, such as, and particularly, being visible from one side but not the other. This makes me suspect that earth lights may be macro-quantal events -- phenomena that should exist only at the sub-atomic quantum level, but have somehow manifested on our larger macro-scale of experience. More modest macro-quantal phenomena have already been produced in the laboratory, and I think earth lights, produced in the greatest laboratory of them all (the one that belongs to Mother Nature) have remarkable lessons to teach us.

http://www.pauldevereux.co.uk/html/body_earthlights.html

My view is that there are numerous life forms in space and unknown or not seen yet as life on Earth.
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: Dyna on February 05, 2016, 08:13:45 PM
This one reminds me of the one in the OP
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http://www.treurniet.ca/bigpic/orbtech.htm
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: Dyna on February 05, 2016, 10:24:41 PM
Quote from: funbox on February 05, 2016, 03:29:44 AM
well if you have some spare cash you can have a look to see how they're fairing

http://thunder-energies.com/docs/100mm-prices.pdf

sort of a mid range :D

if you're flush though ..
http://thunder-energies.com/docs/150mm-prices.pdf

funbox

I hope this doesn't mean the whole story is just to sell telescopes :-\
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: funbox on February 05, 2016, 11:41:15 PM
Quote from: Dyna on February 05, 2016, 10:24:41 PM
I hope this doesn't mean the whole story is just to sell telescopes :-\

even the convex telescopes are expensive, quite a venture to go on if its fooeey, to think there the first to try a concave lens though, surely some mad scientists tried it before

time is certainly one to show and tell this one into sharp relief :D.

funbox
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: zorgon on February 06, 2016, 01:30:48 AM
NASA astronaut says CRITTERS not Aliens

Despite what Jim Oberg would have you believe... Story is very clear here about multitudes of simple lifeforms in orbit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe2JE3NzXOc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe2JE3NzXOc

Can someone do a transcript of what he said for us? Thanks

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Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: ArMaP on February 06, 2016, 03:55:52 PM
Quote from: zorgon on February 06, 2016, 01:30:48 AM
Can someone do a transcript of what he said for us? Thanks
There's only a word I couldn't understand near the end. :)

"On two of my missions, and I still don't have any answer, I have seen a, a snake, out there, six, seven, eight feet long. It is rubbery because it has internal waves in it, and it follows you for a rather long period of time. The more you fly in space the more you see an incredible amount of things out there, and that sort of brings to you, really a certainty that there are other living creatures are out there, some incredibly primi..., more primitive than us, some just proteins coming together, aminoacids, and some just single cell organisms, and other civilizations that have been around for million years, ?? doing unimaginable kinds of things."
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: funbox on February 06, 2016, 04:12:05 PM
Quote from: ArMaP on February 06, 2016, 03:55:52 PM
There's only a word I couldn't understand near the end. :)

"On two of my missions, and I still don't have any answer, I have seen a, a snake, out there, six, seven, eight feet long. It is rubbery because it has internal waves in it, and it follows you for a rather long period of time. The more you fly in space the more you see an incredible amount of things out there, and that sort of brings to you, really a certainty that there are other living creatures are out there, some incredibly primi..., more primitive than us, some just proteins coming together, aminoacids, and some just single cell organisms, and other civilizations that have been around for million years, ?? doing unimaginable kinds of things."

that doesn't sound like the Jim Oberg I remember , were drugs involved ?

funbox
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: ArMaP on February 06, 2016, 04:22:32 PM
Quote from: funbox on February 06, 2016, 04:12:05 PM
that doesn't sound like the Jim Oberg I remember , were drugs involved ?
That was said by Story Musgrave, not Jim Oberg.
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: funbox on February 06, 2016, 04:31:39 PM
Quote from: ArMaP on February 06, 2016, 04:22:32 PM
That was said by Story Musgrave, not Jim Oberg.

no I didn't think it was , I misunderstood what Zorgon said above

thanks for clarifying

someones first name is Story ? :D

funbox
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: Dyna on February 06, 2016, 05:40:58 PM
Quote from: zorgon on February 06, 2016, 01:30:48 AM
NASA astronaut says CRITTERS not Aliens

Despite what Jim Oberg would have you believe... Story is very clear here about multitudes of simple lifeforms in orbit


Really I have a hard time understanding people! It makes much more sense that there are life forms in space than not! There is everything in space, water, alcohol, sun energy to live on. There are so many ways life could come to space with rocks tumbling through all over with water and who knows what else on them.
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: funbox on February 06, 2016, 05:51:07 PM
Quote from: Dyna on February 06, 2016, 05:40:58 PM
Really I have a hard time understanding people! It makes much more sense that there are life forms in space than not! There is everything in space, water, alcohol, sun energy to live on. There are so many ways life could come to space with rocks tumbling through all over with water and who knows what else on them.

with what is proven to be known about extremophiles, there should really be no doubt's :D

im with you matey , Equal rights for extremophiles wherever they may reside

funbox
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: astr0144 on February 06, 2016, 07:19:39 PM
Thanks for posting the video "Z" and for ArMaPs translation..

The 2nd Photo seems a very good image of the Snake like object !

I understand Funbox's confusion !  :) How I have had similar situations with many of such things when words or names create other possible meanings.

If one may not have noticed the ref in the video title or clicked onto the youtube page where it shows the title and name more clearly..

Story certainly has had some career..and has many high qualifications..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Story_Musgrave

Seems very interesting indeed..

A little bit of the translation that ArMaP did not include as the intro..

QuoteDr Story Musgrave is a veteren of 5 American Shuttle missions.who has seen and photographed several unidenified objects in space.

Dr Musgrave does not think that they are CRAFT from another planet..on two of my missions and I still do not have an answer
..I have seen a snake out there

I Think Story says ...

QuoteDr Musgrave does not think that they are CRAFT from another planet.

Although he earlier mentions Unidentified Objects prior... he seems to then refer to Snake objects..

That are Not Craft.. and it seems he does not see them as being from other planets..

SO is he suggesting that they originated from Earth  I wonder ? or just that they have somehow remained connected to it...

Yet he seems to indicate that there is life forms all over in space..


For seeing such things as Critters or Snake like beings... Could it somehow be possible that when we get extreme tornadoes.. that they could suck up living things and somehow propel them high into the atmosphere and even break thru the earths atmosphere into low Earth Orbits ?

But How such things would survive and thrive in space that I am led to believe are at temperatures near to absolute zero..-273 Degrees C...without being frozen in state.. I have No idea !!!

or are the temperatures just above Earth warmer that we maybe led to believe or think ?

Also How do such creatures procreate ? and find partners flying around up there ???

and How long are they living for ?

Does the low temperatures allow them to live longer ?
than on Earth ???

How does the temperatures vary in Space..

From near our Sun...Midway between the Sun and Earth.... Just above Earth ?

As I am led to understand you cannot get any colder than minus 273 degrees Centigrade or Celsius...or about minus - 454 fahrenheit

or whats known as 2.73 kelvin..


How Cold is Space ?

QuoteAnd if you travel out far away from everything in the Universe, you can never get lower than a minimum of just 2.7 Kelvin or -270.45 Celsius. This is the temperature of the cosmic microwave background radiation, which permeates the entire Universe. In space?

QuoteHOW COLD IS SPACE?

2 Jul , 2013 by Fraser Cain  Video
If you could travel from world to world, from star to star, out into the gulfs of intergalactic space, you'd move away from the warmth of the stars into the vast and cold depths of the void.

Better pack a sweater, it's going to get cold.

But, how cold? How cold is space?

Unlike your house, car, or swimming pool, the vacuum of space has no temperature.

So, how cold is space? That's a nonsense question. It's only when you put a thing in space, like a rock, or an astronaut, that you can measure temperature.

Remember there are three ways that heat can transfer: conduction, convection and radiation.

Heat up one side of a metal bar, and the other side will get hot too; that's conduction. Circulating air can transfer heat from one side of the room to another; that's convection. But out in the vacuum of space, the only way heat can transfer is radiation.

Photons of energy get absorbed by an object, warming it up. At the same time, photons are radiating away.

If the object is absorbing more photons than it emits, it heats up. And if it emits more photons than it absorbs, it cools down.

There is a theoretical point at which you can't extract any more energy from an object, this minimum possible temperature is absolute zero. As we'll see in a second, you can never get there.

Let's look close to home, in orbit around the planet, at the International Space Station.

A piece of bare metal in space, under constant sunlight can get as hot as two-hundred-sixty (260) degrees Celsius. This is dangerous to astronauts who have to work outside the station.

If they need to handle bare metal, they wrap it in special coatings or blankets to protect themselves.

And yet, in the shade, an object will cool down to below -100 degrees Celsius.

Astronauts can experience vast differences in temperature between the side facing the Sun, and the side in shadow. Their spacesuits compensate for this using heaters and cooling systems.

Let's talk a little further out. As you travel away from the Sun, the temperature of an object in space plummets.

The surface temperature of Pluto can get as low as -240 Celsius, just 33 degrees above absolute zero.

Clouds of gas and dust between the stars within our galaxy are only 10 to 20 degrees above absolute zero.

And if you travel out far away from everything in the Universe, you can never get lower than a minimum of just 2.7 Kelvin or -270.45 Celsius.

This is the temperature of the cosmic microwave background radiation, which permeates the entire Universe.

In space? It's as cold as it can get.

http://www.universetoday.com/77070/how-cold-is-space/



Not sure I fully understand or accept this !

Can any one clarify ?

The Temperatures of Outer Space Around the Earth

QuoteNear Earth Temperatures...
The average temperature of outer space around the Earth is a balmy 283.32 kelvins (10.17 degrees Celsius or 50.3 degrees Fahrenheit). This is obviously a far cry from more distant space's 3 kelvins above absolute zero. But this relatively mild average masks unbelievably extreme temperature swings. Just past Earth's upper atmosphere, the number of gas molecules drops precipitously to nearly zero, as does pressure. This means there is almost no matter to transfer energy -- but also no matter to buffer direct radiation streaming from the sun. This solar radiation heats the space near Earth to 393.15 kelvins (120 degrees Celsius or 248 degrees Fahrenheit) or higher, while shaded objects plummet to temperatures lower than 173.5 kelvins (minus 100 degrees Celsius or minus 148 degrees Fahrenheit)
.

http://science.opposingviews.com/temperatures-outer-space-around-earth-20254.html

It seems amazing that temperatures can go extremely HIGH... into the 1000s of degrees Celsius..above Absolute Zero...

Just look at the Difference in Extremes in the Hottest ever temp recorded and the mere -273 degrees coldest....

On the Hot side it is EXTREMELY EXTREME  :o !

Quote.. 5.5trillion C, the hottest temperature ever recorded in an experiment.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/20/article-2189318-0295AC4300000578-151_317x449.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/20/article-2189318-0295AC4300000578-151_634x897.jpg)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2189318/Atom-smashing-scientists-reach-highest-recorded-man-temperature--100-000-TIMES-hotter-Suns-interior.html

Absolute HOT .... this ones new to me..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_hot

yet  Temperatures CANNOT go any lower than JUST - 273 degrees Celsius ...

I wonder WHY ? it is that ALL Matter ..atoms elections..Molecular motion .ceases to Function at this temperature !

Something to do with loss of internal energy within matter and its loss of its vibration I think...

As if Matter cannot even vibrate to shiver to create some form of heat energy... I think !

QuoteAt temperatures near 0 Zero Kelvin (-273 degree C), nearly all molecular motion ceases

QuoteIt is commonly thought of as the lowest temperature possible, but it is not the lowest enthalpy state possible, because all real substances begin to depart from the ideal gas when cooled as they approach the change of state to liquid, and then to solid; and the sum of the enthalpy of vaporization (gas to liquid) and enthalpy of fusion (liquid to solid) exceeds the ideal gas's change in enthalpy to absolute zero. In the quantum-mechanical description, matter (solid) at absolute zero is in its ground state, the point of lowest internal energy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_zero
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: funbox on February 07, 2016, 03:33:40 PM
maybe they use a form of photosynthesis to generate heat/energy

I guess above the clouds there's unlimited access :D

or a super Sargasso sea to bathe in

funbox
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: Dyna on February 07, 2016, 05:08:37 PM
QuoteThe Temperatures of Outer Space Around the Earth
We need to not think like earthlings made out of meat :P

maybe they have cold fusion reactors in their bodies! Maybe some chemical reactions wee can not even dream of yet.

Anyone...In the story below would the ball of light not disperse in the water if it were electric?

What if the objects are only drawn to electrical storms. nuclear plants, power lines, UFO's maybe to feed, maybe because these objects holding stable charges seem like cousins :P


http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/bl.html
QuoteTwo years ago this April I had an event occur that I am still trying to understand. I haven't shared this with many people but thought that you might be able to help me understand and then explain what exactly occurred and what I witnessed. First of all I want to let you know that I'm not a nut. I'm a 30 year veteran police officer having retired at the rank of captain in 2008.
Just before I retired I purchased a cabin on a small private lake in northwest Oklahoma. The lake is about 17 acres. My cabin is about 100 feet from the lake and sits on top of a small hill overseeing the entire lake. Other houses are on the lake as well. My living room has two large full length plate glass windows and from my recliner I can see the entire lake.

It was around the last week of March or the first week of April 2010. I was up late, reading. The time was around 1AM. As I was reading, I started noticing lightening in the distance to the southwest. As I continued to read I noticed that the lightening was getting closer. I decided to put my book down and go sit on the dock and watch the storm come in. I've always liked watching storms and thought that the amount of lightening this particular storm had might provide quite a show. I wasn't disappointed. As a kid I used to watch the lightening and then count 1001, 1002, 1003...and so on until I heard the thunder and could guess the distance the lightening was away. As I watched this storm I started counting with each lightening strike. 10 miles out. Then 8 miles out. 5 miles out. Then 3 miles. Then a mile.

As I sat there it started raining. Not alot at first. The boat dock sets under a huge cottonwood tree and I started getting a little concerned that lightening might strike the tree putting me in a compromising position but the storm was right on top of me and the show it was providing was fantastic.

As I continued to watch I suddenly noticed across the lake a bright white sphere about the size of a large grapefruit or softball. The sphere had no tail and was traveling what I estimated to be about 25 to 30 mph. When I first observed it, it was to my right on the other side of the lake, about tree top high (30 ft est.) It traveled directly over a house that is located on the other side of the lake and then curved over the lake and descended as it headed towards my direction, but approx. 80 to 100 feet to the right of my location. As it got over the lake I would estimate that it had descended about 10 to 15 ft above water level still traveling approx. 25 to 30 mph.

Then suddenly the bright white sphere descended in a 45 degree angle and went underwater about 10 ft.

I failed to mention that the lake is a clear water lake with a sandy bottom so the bright white sphere could be seen glowing under the water as it continued to travel at the same estimated speed. I could see that the sphere lit up an area about 12 ft in diameter under the water.


As it continued traveling in my direction, but to my right, it suddenly shot out of the water about 50 ft from the neighbors boat dock in a 45 degree angle and shot back the same direction from which it came but instead of curving back over the house, it continued traveling in a straight trajectory directly over the lake. After it came out of the water it ascended to a height that I would estimate to be 30 ft, still traveling at an estimated speed of 25 to 30 mph.

On the other side of the lake, about 300 yards away, is a row of trees. As the sphere traveled over the trees it seemed to rise just enough to clear the tree tops. As it got close to the trees I could see that it light up the trees as it continued over the top of them then went out of sight.

As I sat there in amazement it started pouring. The lightening was so close and so loud I just sat there trying to make sense of what I just had just witnessed. After making it back to the cabin I called my wife, telling her what I had just seen. She just told me to go to sleep.

The next day I started doing some online research and came up with only two possible explanations; one being demonic in nature (not good) or ball lightening. Since April is just around the corner I started thinking about this event and thought that someone might be able to shed some light (no pun intended) on this mysterious but amazing event.
st <rdw181 a hotmail com>
Ames, OK USA - Thursday, March 15, 2012 at 20:32:57




Like these!!

QuoteThey don't breathe in the sense that you and I do. In the most extreme cases, they don't consume any conventional food, either. Instead, they power themselves in the most elemental way: by eating and breathing electricity. Nealson gestures at his lab. That's what they are doing right there, right now.
http://www.popsci.com/have-we-found-alien-life
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: zorgon on February 08, 2016, 01:05:32 AM
Quote from: Dyna on February 06, 2016, 05:40:58 PM
Really I have a hard time understanding people! It makes much more sense that there are life forms in space than not! There is everything in space, water, alcohol, sun energy to live on. There are so many ways life could come to space with rocks tumbling through all over with water and who knows what else on them.

I agree with you on that and have long been a supporter of naitive CRITTERS as explanation for 80%ish of UFO sightings once you eliminate the garbage and hoaxes (15%ish being black ops and 5% being alien spacecraft)  Denise Stoner of MUFON florida puts it as 50%ish being critters

Things to consider:

A plasma type life form would not be limited to the same physic as humans are, but be able to perform feats that are more in the lightning category

They would leave no physical trace or 'body'  or metal parts like a crashed ship would

They would likely feed on energy (being made of energy)

They would leave traces of energy, like their presence tripping nuclear base warning electronics in the old days before we protected them from EMP 

They would then be expected to be seen near electrical storms, spweing electric volcanoes, power lines and nuke plants and space tethers :P

STAR TREK did a story on a huge miles wide space amoeba   "The Immunity Syndrome"  ?January 19, 1968

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ga1KuUeoyaU/hqdefault.jpg)

This giant space amoeba sucked energy to survive  It had a FORCE FIELD around it that was hard to penetrate

Oddly enough it looked similar to some of the "Critters' we have been showing  yet this was in 1968  many years before the tether incident and other critter stories

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Critter/critter014.jpg)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Critter/pulsingUfo.jpg)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Critter/bb261ab621b502c6.gif)
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: zorgon on February 08, 2016, 01:09:31 AM
Dr. Norman Bergrun's Discoveries of Life on the Moon
Monday, July 23, 2001 Contact: Marilyn "Kacey" Daukas
For Immediate Release Phone/Fax: 925 691-1166


NASA IMAGES REVEAL LIFE ON THE MOON
LUNAR LIFE FORMS: REVELATIONS OF APOLLO 14


Generally assumed is that life forms, if they exist elsewhere other than Earth, will be microscopic in character. Dr. Norman Bergrun's discoveries of life on the moon, presented in "Lunar Life Forms: Revelations of Apollo 14", demonstrate that this present assumption is erroneous.

Some life forms are small, reminiscent in appearance to those found on Earth's ocean floors but without the ocean, while others appear as large "growths!" Just as some life forms are capable of creating light, such as the firefly, this has also been found to take place with some of the life forms that exist on our moon. It is evident also as on Earth, that some lunar life forms use camouflage to adapt to their surroundings providing the ability to "hide in plain sight!".

These NASA images along with the data contained in Dr. Bergun's latest work,"Lunar Life Forms: Revelations of Apollo 14", can be viewed in a professional presentation exclusively at Anomalog.com owned by Mr. Gordon Tibbles, who has been most helpful in making this presentation to you possible. - SOURCE

Books by Dr. Norman Bergrun - Biography

The Ring Makers of Saturn
Lunar Life Forms: Revelations of Apollo 14
Mars Puts on a Good Face: The Masquerade
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: zorgon on February 08, 2016, 01:25:33 AM
Quote from: astr0144 on February 06, 2016, 07:19:39 PM

QuoteDr Musgrave does not think that they are CRAFT from another planet..on two of my missions and I still do not have an answer[/b]..I have seen a snake out there

I Think Story says ...

QuoteDr Musgrave does not think that they are CRAFT from another planet.

Although he earlier mentions Unidentified Objects prior... he seems to then refer to Snake objects..

That are Not Craft.. and it seems he does not see them as being from other planets..
SO is he suggesting that they originated from Earth  I wonder ? or just that they have somehow remained connected to it...
Yet he seems to indicate that there is life forms all over in space..

Precisely.  They are creatures as yet positively identified that live in earths's atmosphere and LEO (Low Earth Orbit)  More and more mainstream scientists are starting to suspect this is the truth. This does NOT include the true visitors like the Grays etc  I am 100% positive we are looking at two different phenomena.. the lifeforms that everyone is seeing as 'orbs', snakes, amoebas, moths to a flame type behavior   and actual craft whether alien in origin or black ops

A lot of the confusion comes from the fact that both alien ships and black ops knock offs use PLASMA to shield, cloak and propel the crafts..  so visual effect will be the same

:P

QuoteFor seeing such things as Critters or Snake like beings... Could it somehow be possible that when we get extreme tornadoes.. that they could suck up living things and somehow propel them high into the atmosphere and even break thru the earths atmosphere into low Earth Orbits ?

Looking at the STS 80 footage of them popping out of a storm and maneuverin over a storm in space, I would say they get around just fine on their own. I doubt air movement really affects them much

QuoteBut How such things would survive and thrive in space that I am led to believe are at temperatures near to absolute zero..-273 Degrees C...without being frozen in state.. I have No idea !!!

Plasma makes up 90% of what we see in space  Those huge nebulas are pure plasm energy.  We don't know exactly how they survive because we haven't caught one yet :P  But to catch one you first have to acknowledge that they exist

John Glenn saw fireflies outside his craft...  that was when the 'official' story of ice and dust started :P The only way we will know for sure is to go out there amd see them ourselves

I do know one thing  Ever since that NASA astronaut posted the red sprite over a thunderstorm, it proves that NASA is indeed looking at plasma phenomena over storms, and Jim Oberg has been silent on the matter ever since :D Whether or not they are life forms or natural phenomena, the point is that NASA IS looking  and does not consider them "dust and ice particles near the spacecraft" :P

Quoteor are the temperatures just above Earth warmer that we maybe led to believe or think ?

We survive in space in thin metal cans and fabric suits... perhaps critters have some kind of protective layer as well, like a force field
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: zorgon on February 08, 2016, 01:33:16 AM
Quote from: astr0144 on February 06, 2016, 07:19:39 PM
Also How do such creatures procreate ? and find partners flying around up there ???
and How long are they living for ?

No idea how long they live but I suspect it is likely eons :D

Tallahassee, Florida September 05, 2005
Critter giving birth


The original full video was about 20 minutes long. At the beginning you see a floating jellyfich like morphing UFO grayish white. It is transluscent and has a red glowing ball inside.

Later in the film the red orb is free and zipping around like a new born  Motion analysis and stability were done at ATS

Denise Stoner agrees that this appears to be a birthing sequence

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/49ufo_files/03files2/Florida_Sept_05_2005.html
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: ArMaP on February 08, 2016, 01:50:41 AM
Quote from: zorgon on February 08, 2016, 01:33:16 AM
Denise Stoner agrees that this appears to be a birthing sequence
I think it's just something out of focus, although I don't have any idea of what it could have been there for so long.
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: ArMaP on February 08, 2016, 09:28:23 AM
Quote from: zorgon on February 08, 2016, 01:33:16 AM
The original full video was about 20 minutes long.
24:10, to be exact. :)

I still have it on my computer, the full version, starting with the children jumping rope (I think that was the reason for the filming). :)
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: Dyna on February 08, 2016, 06:14:06 PM
QuoteQuote from: astr0144 on February 06, 2016, 12:19:39 PM
Also How do such creatures procreate ? and find partners flying around up there ???
and How long are they living for ?

I would suppose that no matter how big a space is kinds inhabit areas selected and not that large. Maybe they use Biofluorescence.
Quote
Fish come in many shapes and sizes and now scientists have identified more than 180 species that glow in a wide range of colours and patterns.
While the strange light show is not visible to humans, the ways fish absorb light, transform it and eject it as a different colour, is common among many species and is used to communicate and attract a mate.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2537351/The-light-FISH-Biofluorescence-used-sea-creatures-communicate-attract-mate.html#ixzz3zbLuFP6g
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Look at this creature, a simple bag, they don't know how it lives.
QuoteThe ocean oddity has no eyes, no brain and no gut. Just a small gaping mouth from which food goes in - and then waste comes out.
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?action=post;topic=9077.30;last_msg=121859

I would think energy from the sun would allow many creatures to feed on energy alone.

QuoteThe ability of fungi to live off radiation could also prove useful to people: "Since ionizing radiation is prevalent in outer space, astronauts might be able to rely on fungi as an inexhaustible food source on long missions or for colonizing other planets," says Dr. Ekaterina Dadachova, associate professor of nuclear medicine and microbiology & immunology at Einstein and lead author of the study.

Those fungi able to "eat" radiation must possess melanin, the pigment found in many if not most fungal species. But up until now, melanin's biological role in fungi--if any--has been a mystery.

"Just as the pigment chlorophyll converts sunlight into chemical energy that allows green plants to live and grow, our research suggests that melanin can use a different portion of the electromagnetic spectrum--ionizing radiation--to benefit the fungi containing it," says Dr. Dadachova.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/05/070522210932.htm
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: zorgon on February 09, 2016, 12:54:19 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on February 08, 2016, 01:50:41 AM
I think it's just something out of focus, although I don't have any idea of what it could have been there for so long.

Whether or not it is out of focus, you can still see that the red object is inside the white jellyfish like object.  and later the two are separate

Is this an actual 'birth'? No way to tell for certain but it looks like it :P

and the fact that it was there for so long a time frame is of value as well

As to focus   IF the 'critter' or 'orb' or 'ufo' or 'black ops' craft have any kind of plasma shielding like a force field, a plasma skin, or just emminating energy like a ball lightning...  I would have to say 100% for certain that this energy would at the very least distupt light waves to make it blurry, at best make it invisible  which is afterall what Stealth planes desire to do.

Like THIS example of a person in a force field bubble 

(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/weirdcommunity/images/e/e3/Force_field_th.jpg)

A similar effect (though different cause) can be seen with HEAT (don't forget that 'heat' is still ENM radiation at the top (red) end of the light scale) So just as an example of EM distorting light this is a good visual

(http://image.hnol.net/c/2008-06/19/12/2008061912534825-239790.jpg)

So getting a clear photo of a UFO of the Flying Saucer kind, Black Ops plane in stealth mode or a Plasma Critter should be impossible while it is operating
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: funbox on February 09, 2016, 01:08:57 AM
QuoteSo getting a clear photo of a UFO of the Flying Saucer kind, Black Ops plane in stealth mode or a Plasma Critter should be impossible while it is operating

how about still very high in the sky?

if you look very carefully you may see interaction with the clouds.. I wont say to much though , wouldn't want to  influence too much :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhF6H4qpFd0

the music's an ironic tribute btw , to all those fake ufo video's everywhere and all the mindless zomb's that feed them

funbox
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: zorgon on February 09, 2016, 01:14:14 AM
Quote from: Dyna on February 08, 2016, 06:14:06 PM
Look at this creature, a simple bag, they don't know how it

You mean THIS one? 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylp3ZCJiBIk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylp3ZCJiBIk
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: ArMaP on February 09, 2016, 01:47:19 AM
Quote from: zorgon on February 09, 2016, 12:54:19 AM
Whether or not it is out of focus, you can still see that the red object is inside the white jellyfish like object.  and later the two are separate
No, because if it's an out of focus object, the "white jellyfish like object" may be just the out of focus part of the image, meaning that nothing is inside it.

Quoteand the fact that it was there for so long a time frame is of value as well
That's I made a reference to it. :)

Quote
Like THIS example of a person in a force field bubble 

(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/weirdcommunity/images/e/e3/Force_field_th.jpg)
Is that a real photo of a person inside a force field bubble? Or is it just artwork? Artwork by itself is useless.

QuoteA similar effect (though different cause) can be seen with HEAT (don't forget that 'heat' is still ENM radiation at the top (red) end of the light scale) So just as an example of EM distorting light this is a good visual
It's not similar, as you can see that the effects caused by the heat are on focus.
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: funbox on February 09, 2016, 02:14:11 AM
I was worried about some getting sleep ;d, so 19 seconds in watch right of screen , watch the dark patch enter and what it does after, the light is rather dull in comparison :D

funbox
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: Dyna on February 09, 2016, 06:55:17 PM
Quote from: funbox on February 09, 2016, 02:14:11 AM
I was worried about some getting sleep ;d, so 19 seconds in watch right of screen , watch the dark patch enter and what it does after, the light is rather dull in comparison :D

funbox
What do you make of that? It is so fast doesn't it look like an insect flew across the lense? or a part of the tree like in  later images.
(http://s20.postimg.org/z8lgo4vsd/ufo.jpg)
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: astr0144 on February 10, 2016, 07:11:43 AM
Thanks for offering Some other possible suggestions that I had not considered...

I am still not sure how the temperatures may vary between being at the edge of our atmosphere to just outside it in low earth orbit... to further away from Earth or maybe as far away as the moon.

Not well up on How Cold Fusion may relate to critters or any energy that they may thrive or survive on..

or How if at all if photosynthesis may still work outside our atmosphere...

But if any of them are possible than maybe..

I am just not sure that if Space was as cold as minus 273 degrees and that was to cease all matter from functioning if that would relate to the options that is suggested..or not !

Maybe it is relatively milder just above Mother Earth for live to still thrive...


Dyna
QuoteWe need to not think like earthlings made out of meat :P

maybe they have cold fusion reactors in their bodies! Maybe some chemical reactions wee can not even dream of yet.

QuoteReally I have a hard time understanding people! It makes much more sense that there are life forms in space than not! There is everything in space, water, alcohol, sun energy to live on.


Funbox
Quotemaybe they use a form of photosynthesis to generate heat/energy

I guess above the clouds there's unlimited access :D

or a super Sargasso sea to bathe in

funbox
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: astr0144 on February 10, 2016, 07:51:32 AM
With such lifeform... would you think that they also may have actual Consciousness or intelligence ?
and that they may have some relevance to us or do you see them as just some primitive lifeform that may thrive on or towards certain energy sources..

QuoteThings to consider:

A plasma type life form would not be limited to the same physic as humans are, but be able to perform feats that are more in the lightning category

They would leave no physical trace or 'body'  or metal parts like a crashed ship would

They would likely feed on energy (being made of energy)

They would leave traces of energy, like their presence tripping nuclear base warning electronics in the old days before we protected them from EMP 


So it maybe that Critters can use plasma in the same way !

QuoteA lot of the confusion comes from the fact that both alien ships and black ops knock offs use PLASMA to shield, cloak and propel the crafts..  so visual effect will be the same

Maybe they do...or are part plasma that shields them.

QuoteWe survive in space in thin metal cans and fabric suits... perhaps critters have some kind of protective layer as well, like a force field

Was this because that it was already in space..

Are you maybe suggesting that some creatures on / from Earth could somehow make their own way to the higher levels in the atmosphere and break throu it without any other physical source...such as being propelled by air currents...?

One may wonder if so is there beings up their from prehistory !

QuoteLooking at the STS 80 footage of them popping out of a storm and maneuverin over a storm in space, I would say they get around just fine on their own. I doubt air movement really affects them much


I had not thought of it like that before..

I wonder if Nasa has caught any as yet ?

I woulld have thought so or that they will aim to do so. It would be good if we got to find out more about them..

QuotePlasma makes up 90% of what we see in space  Those huge nebulas are pure plasm energy.  We don't know exactly how they survive because we haven't caught one yet :P  But to catch one you first have to acknowledge that they exist


Amazing if that is a Critter ET giving birth !  :o

QuoteThe original full video was about 20 minutes long. At the beginning you see a floating jellyfich like morphing UFO grayish white. It is transluscent and has a red glowing ball inside.

Later in the film the red orb is free and zipping around like a new born  Motion analysis and stability were done at ATS

Denise Stoner agrees that this appears to be a birthing sequence


That could be a good possible theory !

Dyna
QuoteI would think energy from the sun would allow many creatures to feed on energy alone.

QuoteI would suppose that no matter how big a space is kinds inhabit areas selected and not that large. Maybe they use Biofluorescence.
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: funbox on February 10, 2016, 01:53:12 PM
Quote from: Dyna on February 09, 2016, 06:55:17 PM
What do you make of that? It is so fast doesn't it look like an insect flew across the lense? or a part of the tree like in  later images.
(http://s20.postimg.org/z8lgo4vsd/ufo.jpg)

ill have to go back to the footage , I do know that when youtube swallowed it , a lot of the quality was lost

ill see if I can drag some more detail from the footage

time is sparse atm though

funbox
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: ArMaP on February 10, 2016, 02:06:54 PM
Quote from: funbox on February 10, 2016, 01:53:12 PM
ill have to go back to the footage , I do know that when youtube swallowed it , a lot of the quality was lost
Do you want the full 24 minutes video I downloaded from Google videos, where it was posted?
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: funbox on February 10, 2016, 02:11:06 PM
Quote from: ArMaP on February 10, 2016, 02:06:54 PM
Do you want the full 24 minutes video I downloaded from Google videos, where it was posted?

which video are we talking about I thought Dyna was talking about the video I shot .. what's the other then ? :D

funbox
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: ArMaP on February 10, 2016, 03:43:27 PM
Quote from: funbox on February 10, 2016, 02:11:06 PM
which video are we talking about I thought Dyna was talking about the video I shot ..
Did you shot a video? I didn't see any thing that made me think of that, I was talking about the video from which the image you included in your reply to Dyna was taken, the video of the supposed "criter birth".
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: Dyna on February 10, 2016, 06:50:52 PM
Quote from: funbox on February 09, 2016, 02:14:11 AM
I was worried about some getting sleep ;d, so 19 seconds in watch right of screen , watch the dark patch enter and what it does after, the light is rather dull in comparison :D

funbox
Ah I thought you meant the other, the one you shot I did not see a shadow at 19 secs.
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: Dyna on February 10, 2016, 07:21:04 PM
Quote from: astr0144 on February 10, 2016, 07:11:43 AM
Thanks for offering Some other possible suggestions that I had not considered...
I am still not sure how the temperatures may vary between being at the edge of our atmosphere to just outside it in low earth orbit... to further away from Earth or maybe as far away as the moon.

Not well up on How Cold Fusion may relate to critters or any energy that they may thrive or survive on..

or How if at all if photosynthesis may still work outside our atmosphere...
But if any of them are possible than maybe..

I am just not sure that if Space was as cold as minus 273 degrees and that was to cease all matter from functioning if that would relate to the options that is suggested..or not !

Maybe it is relatively milder just above Mother Earth for live to still thrive...
Dyna
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What I am suggesting (and believe wholeheartedly as it feels like common sense) is that though space is roughly 2.7 Kelvin (-270.45 Celsius, -454.81 Fahrenheit) and The temperature on Pluto can dip as low as minus 387 degrees F

That it may not matter at all, it is possible that life is formed with whatever it takes to live where it appears, like the fluorescent and electric creatures of the deep living in what was once believed to be impossible depths for life. Same as the upper atmosphere.
QuoteRecent studies have confirmed that microbes exist in the stratosphere,the atmospheric region between about 11 and 31 miles (18 and 50 kilometers) in altitude. (Baumgartner leaped into history from a balloon about 24 miles, or 39 km, above Earth's surface.)

Biologists had once thought this zone was uninhabitable due to its low pressure, high radiation and absence of water and nutrients.
- See more at: http://www.space.com/18574-mars-life-microbes-earth-stratosphere.html#sthash.yfcxNhft.dpuf

QuoteNASA scientists report that it's possible the reported sea plankton could be a contaminant that hitched a ride from Earth when the space station modules were launched. Previous research has also found that certain tiny species — known as extremophiles — can survive in space and other harsh environments. Just today, new research is being published in the journal Nature that documents the discovery of microbes living beneath a half mile of Antarctic ice without any access to sun or wind.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2014/08/21/nasa-russia-squabble-over-international-space-station-sea-plankton-claim/#66566c5f5fc4

If we have a pool of acid some creature appears that lives off acid.
Or Radiation eaters!
QuoteRadiation-eating species live 3 miles straight down in a world without the sun, which means they live in an endless energy-deprived hell,

Or Chernobyl
QuoteThe robot found black slime growing inside the actual casing of the exploded reactor, which was a nice touch, but perhaps Mother Nature was being a little theatrical. Cryptococcus neoformans is darkened not by a heavy-handed metaphor but by melanin pigment so intense it not only protects them from gamma radiation, but they actually grow faster when exposed to these lethal levels of radiation.
http://www.nsf.gov/news/special_reports/microbes/eatingradio.jsp
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-7-most-mind-blowing-places-science-has-discovered-life_p2/

If life survives crossing through space it could survive IN space.

QuotePanspermia ("seeds spread far"), the idea that life can travel through space from one hospitable location to the another, is no longer wild speculation. Space is extremely cold, subject to unfiltered solar radiation, solar wind, galactic radiation, space vacuum, and to negligible gravity. But this treacherous realm can be crossed by life.

We know from Mars meteorites such as the (now) famous ALH84001 sample that a natural vehicle exists for interplanetary transport. These meteorites contain organic compounds from Mars, showing that such compounds can survive the journey. Moreover, studies have shown that given a rock of sufficient size, conditions within a rock thrown off of Mars — and then later entering Earth's atmosphere — can remain cool enough such that not just organic material, but also microbes contained within, could (theoretically) survive the trip.
http://www.nss.org/adastra/volume14/rothschild.html[/b]
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: zorgon on February 10, 2016, 08:47:01 PM
Quote from: Dyna on February 10, 2016, 07:21:04 PM
That it may not matter at all, it is possible that life is formed with whatever it takes to live where it appears, like the fluorescent and electric creatures of the deep living in what was once believed to be impossible depths for life. Same as the upper atmosphere.

I agree

QuoteIf we have a pool of acid some creature appears that lives off acid.

Snottite  lives off sulphuric acid

(http://www-tc.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/assets/img/lives-of-extremophiles/image-02-large.jpg)

QuoteOr Radiation eaters!

This may be the solution to Fukushima  Radiation eating bacteria
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: space otter on February 10, 2016, 09:35:36 PM
hah.!..
been around a good 10 to 15 years.. fungi...I'd have to go back and find you the name but I worked with  some of the medium for it to be packaged on before I left  research    then it went to Europe
one is one of the fluoresces...I have often wondered what they did with the fruiting bodies..




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Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: astr0144 on February 12, 2016, 12:48:18 AM
Hi Dyna,

You post some more good suggestions and egs that May all be possibly similar or relevant to life surviving in Space...

What I am still not sure about however is that all are still on and within the Earths atmosphere..

Although in some egs maybe like under the deep depths of the sea...in a area on the sea bed where it maybe leaking certain gases from some earthquake..
one may wonder how life could still survive...as its not open to the Earths atmosphere..

Is space more of a Vacuum where the pressure may also be a main issue towards life existing..

This may offer some guidance as to Temperatures on the various planets in the Solar System that vary in distances from the Suns heat.. that I assume, also in some cases will also be similar to the temperature in Space... in any or just above each of the  Planets atmospheres in their near low planets orbit s..

http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/galleries/solar-system-temperatures

May have to scroll the image to the right to see the planets / Temps...

(I was not able to reduce the image to make it easily fit when looking at the normal page layout)


(http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/images/galleries/ptemp_browse.jpg)


QuoteIn this diagram, we view the planets' -- and dwarf planet Pluto's -- temperatures in both Fahrenheit and Celsius. (Planetary objects are not shown to scale.)

In general, the surface temperature decreases with increasing distance from the sun. Venus is an exception because its dense atmosphere acts as a greenhouse and heats the surface to above the melting point of lead (880 degrees Fahrenheit, 471 degrees Celsius).

Mercury rotates slowly and has a thin atmosphere, and consequently, the night-side temperature can be more than 1000 degrees (Fahrenheit) lower than the day-side temperature shown on the diagram. It can be as cold as -290 degrees Fahrenheit (-179 degrees Celsius) on Mercury during the night.

Temperatures for the gas giants (Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune) are taken from a level in the atmosphere equal in pressure to sea level on Earth.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8502/8392401714_8777cd1a2c_c.jpg)


Some Solar System Planetary Facts..Temperature variations, pressures Gravity etc..

(http://www.northern-stars.com/SolarSystem.jpg)

http://www.northern-stars.com/solar_system_info.htm

Dyna
QuoteWhat I am suggesting (and believe wholeheartedly as it feels like common sense) is that though space is roughly 2.7 Kelvin (-270.45 Celsius, -454.81 Fahrenheit) and The temperature on Pluto can dip as low as minus 387 degrees F

That it may not matter at all, it is possible that life is formed with whatever it takes to live where it appears, like the fluorescent and electric creatures of the deep living in what was once believed to be impossible depths for life. Same as the upper atmosphere.
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: astr0144 on February 12, 2016, 01:23:43 AM
Planet details and Temperatures in the Solar System.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/31/08/5f/31085fb4eed4d745eb9a9449c0f49557.png)

Temperatures of Other stars around the universe compared to our Sun and Solar system temperatures.

(http://annesastronomynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Planet-Temperature-Size.jpg)
Title: Re: Scientists Finally Prove ‘Invisible Alien Entities ARE Here On Earth’
Post by: Anonymous338 on March 01, 2016, 05:44:05 AM
This is an interesting finding, and surely worthy of additional investigation via the scientific method.

On a separate but related note, do keep in mind that the Santilli mafia possesses the most powerful nuclear tech on the planet, and Santilli himself is a f*cking madman. I.e. see http://www.scientificethics.org trust me, I know him lmfao

moreover, note that the santilli cartel includes (but may not be limited to) the following organizations:
[1] MagneGas Corporation (http://magnegas.com/)
[2] Thunder Energies Corporation (http://www.thunder-energies.com/)
[3] International Committee on Scientific Ethics and Accountability (http://www.scientificethics.org/)
[4] Hadronic Press (www.hadronicpress.com/)
[5] Santilli Foundation (www.santilli-foundation.org/)
[6] Institute for basic research (http://www.i-b-r.org/)

in any case, this is also a magnegas video worth watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76oIcODTjJo with good explosions and 50 caliber rifles lol