Hum it does sound like someone tried to hush her up?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPtj-GfGhqE
Quote from: Dyna on February 19, 2016, 09:34:11 PM
Hum it does sound like someone tried to hush her up?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPtj-GfGhqE
typically Italian that :D poker faces are non existent there I think :D
funbox
This is what she wrote about it on her Google+ page (https://plus.google.com/u/0/+SamanthaCristoforetti/posts):
For now, I will tell you of one moment, which was so fortunate and unexpected. You know, when you fly to the Space Station in the Soyuz, unless you are the Commander sitting in the center seat, you can only see your destination from far away in the black and white camera view (the same image that is transmitted to Mission Control and usually shown during media coverage of docking). As a left-or right seater, you only have a side view and there's no way to see the Station until you're really close and parts of it start coming in your field of you. Before the flight, previous Soyuz fliers had reminded me to start looking for the Space Station in the side window in the last part of the approach and so I did: but I wasn't prepared in the least for what I saw when we were at about 30-40 meters.
I had released my shoulder straps quite a bit at that point, so I was floating over my seat. As I turned to look outside, at first I looked back and saw one of our Soyuz solar panels, which I had seen before of course. Then my eyes caught something in the peripheral view. And as I slowly turned my gaze and when I realized what I was seeing, I was overcome by pure amazement and joy: the Space Station was there, but not just any view. The huge solar panels were flooded in a blaze of orange light, vivid, warm almost alien. I couldn't help exclaiming something aloud, which you can probably hear in the recordings of our docking, since at that point we were "hot mic" with Mission Control. Anton reminded me of that and so I tried to contain my amazement and return to the docking monitoring. When I peaked again later, the orange glow was gone.
Butch told me later that he had heard my amazement on com when "the Station had turned orange." I didn't know, but apparently there's only a few seconds during day-night transition that the Station is lit by that amazing orange glow. And it happened to be exactly when I peaked outside! I feel very fortunate that I had such a unique first glimpse of our human outpost in space: such a great welcome!
Quote from: ArMaP on February 19, 2016, 10:00:59 PM
This is what she wrote about it on her Google+ page (https://plus.google.com/u/0/+SamanthaCristoforetti/posts):
For now, I will tell you of one moment, which was so fortunate and unexpected. You know, when you fly to the Space Station in the Soyuz, unless you are the Commander sitting in the center seat, you can only see your destination from far away in the black and white camera view (the same image that is transmitted to Mission Control and usually shown during media coverage of docking). As a left-or right seater, you only have a side view and there's no way to see the Station until you're really close and parts of it start coming in your field of you. Before the flight, previous Soyuz fliers had reminded me to start looking for the Space Station in the side window in the last part of the approach and so I did: but I wasn't prepared in the least for what I saw when we were at about 30-40 meters.
I had released my shoulder straps quite a bit at that point, so I was floating over my seat. As I turned to look outside, at first I looked back and saw one of our Soyuz solar panels, which I had seen before of course. Then my eyes caught something in the peripheral view. And as I slowly turned my gaze and when I realized what I was seeing, I was overcome by pure amazement and joy: the Space Station was there, but not just any view. The huge solar panels were flooded in a blaze of orange light, vivid, warm almost alien. I couldn't help exclaiming something aloud, which you can probably hear in the recordings of our docking, since at that point we were "hot mic" with Mission Control. Anton reminded me of that and so I tried to contain my amazement and return to the docking monitoring. When I peaked again later, the orange glow was gone.
Butch told me later that he had heard my amazement on com when "the Station had turned orange." I didn't know, but apparently there's only a few seconds during day-night transition that the Station is lit by that amazing orange glow. And it happened to be exactly when I peaked outside! I feel very fortunate that I had such a unique first glimpse of our human outpost in space: such a great welcome!
hmmm :D and of course all of her words no doubt , but in her explanation she doesn't explain why she was shussshed repeatedly by her comrade , nor mention of the passing object, you might know this ArMaP , how much of a delay is there between visual and audio ?
funbox
about what I would expect her to say either way really :)
Quote from: Dyna on February 19, 2016, 10:11:47 PM
about what I would expect her to say either way really :)
indeed , but her comarade at the time didn't like her natural response to the beauty of seeing something new for the first time , it irritated him enough into hurried equally annoyed response.
and maybe he was annoyed because of the unexpectedness of it ... good ..best news ive heard all day :D
funbox
what UFO?
reply 2 tells the tale
gotta go see who posted that..would be nice if you guys included the link
ah I see it is
Mister Enigma https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPtj-GfGhqE
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hey ArMaP..you want to start a debunkers group?
maybe we can call it.. the TRUTH really is out there
bwhahahahahaha
that's three in a row.. what's going on? !
Dyna..no offense meant here.. I just got caught in one too
Quotewhat UFO?
just at the start before she proclaims to her god, I think there's an arrow indicating the area where it appears...I guess you missed that as well, no doubt to busy stoking* otters whilst simultaneously thinking about otter in 5 different languages :D
funbox
*not to be confused with stroking :D although makes for anamusing happenchance visual :D
yeah I saw the arrow but nothing there..and ArMap explained that she was exclaiming about the orange of the sun on the solar panels..
guess you must have missed that
and while the otter jokes are cute.. I'm actually doing the human meat suit this time around.. :o
Quote from: space otter on February 20, 2016, 03:06:18 AM
yeah I saw the arrow but nothing there..and ArMap explained that she was exclaiming about the orange of the sun on the solar panels..
guess you must have missed that
and while the otter jokes are cute.. I'm actually doing the human meat suit this time around.. :o
didn't see anything ? peculiar , there is something that undulates slightly as it passes. for certain. but seeing as you missed I,t can you point out this orange glow from the sun, not on a single surface do I see this colour... but then the sun's an exclusionist now isn't it :D
but plausible deniability will rear it ugly head :D , the panels were at just the right angle and so on and so forth
as for ArMaP explaining, he offered nothing but a quote from her, and surprisingly little else... not even original source footage :D
stick with the otter bags, human skin isn't so tough
funbox
Quote from: funbox on February 19, 2016, 10:10:11 PM
but in her explanation she doesn't explain why she was shussshed repeatedly by her comrade
I think that's why she wrote this:
I couldn't help exclaiming something aloud, which you can probably hear in the recordings of our docking, since at that point we were "hot mic" with Mission Control. Anton reminded me of that and so I tried to contain my amazement and return to the docking monitoring.Quotenor mention of the passing object
Based on this:
when you fly to the Space Station in the Soyuz, unless you are the Commander sitting in the center seat, you can only see your destination from far away in the black and white camera view (the same image that is transmitted to Mission Control and usually shown during media coverage of docking)I think it's possible she didn't see it (or the second object that the video from the opening post omits).
Quoteyou might know this ArMaP , how much of a delay is there between visual and audio ?
Judging by the original ESA video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbBIg0co1sU), 3 minutes and 17 seconds between the first object and her reaction and 2 minutes and 34 seconds between the second object and her reaction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbBIg0co1sU
Quote from: space otter on February 20, 2016, 03:06:18 AM
yeah I saw the arrow but nothing there..and ArMap explained that she was exclaiming about the orange of the sun on the solar panels..
guess you must have missed that
and while the otter jokes are cute.. I'm actually doing the human meat suit this time around.. :o
And if her excitement were something they don't want the average Joe to know?
What would they tell you?
QuoteAnd if her excitement were something they don't want the average Joe to know?
What would they tell you
hi Dyna
first it would tell me it was a man shushing her
second that the jaded old hand was embarrassed by the excitement and exclamation of a new-by
and they were on broadcast and he didn't want to seem unprofessional
I guess it is all how you hear it, in my opinion she is very startled perhaps even scared.
Quote from: ArMaP on February 20, 2016, 04:05:11 PM
Based on this:
when you fly to the Space Station in the Soyuz, unless you are the Commander sitting in the center seat, you can only see your destination from far away in the black and white camera view (the same image that is transmitted to Mission Control and usually shown during media coverage of docking)
I think it's possible she didn't see it (or the second object that the video from the opening post omits).
well now ive seen the orginal video *chink of glasses and distant muffled "cheers"* the exclamation comes way after the little lights we see, so I doubt now that her 3xomg is attributed to what we saw
but there's no disguising Anton's deliberate chat afterwards to hide her accelerated breathing, I hear it though but ill not go so far to isolate it from his noise :D
as for the black and white footage, a deep red contrast/color shift would still be noticeable in it, if that's what your hinting at ;D
funbox
Quote from: funbox on February 21, 2016, 12:32:11 PM
but there's no disguising Anton's deliberate chat afterwards to hide her accelerated breathing, I hear it though but ill not go so far to isolate it from his noise :D
We shouldn't forget that they were on the final stage of the docking manoeuvres, a critical part of the mission, not the best time to get excited about any thing.
Quoteas for the black and white footage, a deep red contrast/color shift would still be noticeable in it, if that's what your hinting at ;D
It wasn't, I was saying that I doubt she was able to see the two small objects on the screen, as they are barely noticeable on the video.
QuoteWe shouldn't forget that they were on the final stage of the docking manoeuvres, a critical part of the mission, not the best time to get excited about any thing.
nor should we forget the intensive training they receive , both physiological and physical. being phased by some shining sunlit panels then hyperventilating about it afterwards to the point your comrade is embarrassed /surprised/angered to verbal reprisal .. says a lot about the training or lack of
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It wasn't, I was saying that I doubt she was able to see the two small objects on the screen, as they are barely noticeable on the video.
well she says she saw Sunlight panels, yet I noticed no tone shifts around they're capsule or its adjoining panels /apparatus
what MrEnigma did do though was edit most of the interesting bits out .. like the persistent hyperventilation and Comrades failed attempts to mask :D
funbox
Quote from: funbox on February 21, 2016, 01:41:49 PM
nor should we forget the intensive training they receive , both physiological and physical. being phased by some shining sunlit panels then hyperventilating about it afterwards to the point your comrade is embarrassed /surprised/angered to verbal reprisal .. says a lot about the training or lack of
I suppose she wasn't told about that possibility, so she wasn't expecting it.
Quotewell she says she saw Sunlight panels, yet I noticed no tone shifts around they're capsule or its adjoining panels /apparatus
She saw the panels through the left side window, only the commander can see through the front window, and what he sees is the same thing the others see on the monitor and we see on the video.
Quote from: ArMaP on February 21, 2016, 02:03:59 PM
She saw the panels through the left side window, only the commander can see through the front window, and what he sees is the same thing the others see on the monitor and we see on the video.
I don't dispute her view is different from ours , but the sunlight we see and it appearance before, during and after the event don't indicate any significant change in light on the station, surely an angle of incidence would coincide on the station to an angle she was seeing of light reflected from the object that made here so excitable
funbox
Quote from: funbox on February 21, 2016, 02:17:19 PM
I don't dispute her view is different from ours , but the sunlight we see and it appearance before, during and after the event don't indicate any significant change in light on the station, surely an angle of incidence would coincide on the station to an angle she was seeing of light reflected from the object that made here so excitable
We can see some change in the light, and don't forget that the solar panels are not aligned with the docking ship, they are aligned to get sunlight, so they can be pointing in almost any direction.
If it were possible to her the second part after oh My God it could be cleared up. It should be it's so beautiful I would think.
Her breathing and small sounds after the remark seems above and beyond for seeing beauty to me. That is based only of course on what I would expect and we are all different. She was so well trained and sounding so calm moments before.
Now if instead she said Oh My God A UFO1 What would it mean?
The response of her partner might suggest that they are acquainted with these things but are not so familiar with them that all astronauts can be expected to remain calm when seeing one for the first time.