There are times when we may feel like murdering someone we may not like or agree with , especially in Politics or a leader such as a President or Prime minister if they do things to upset us....
but you never expect it will happen in reality...
I have to say I am somewhat shocked to read what has happened today to Labor MP Jo Cox.
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It would not surprise me with the up and coming EU election and concerns over migration / terrorism or possible False Flag dirty tricks that there could be a series of such incidents that could create fears and concerns...or there maybe some persons who disagree with a politicians agendas as no doubt some of the decisions that they make can have very bad effects on peoples lives..
MP's Killer Walked Off Coolly - Witness
A gunman who stabbed and shot dead a 41-year-old Labour MP in a Leeds street "walked off very coolly, very slowly" after the attack, an eyewitness has told Sky News.
Hichem Ben Abdallah, who was in a cafe next door to the library where Jo Cox was believed to have been holding a surgery, described seeing a man wearing a dirty white baseball cap and a grey short jacket, pulling a gun out.
He then heard two shots.
:: MP Jo Cox Dies After Being Shot And Stabbed
Immediately prior to that he had seen the owner of a dry cleaners, who he hailed as "the hero of the scene", wrestling with the man.
After the shooting, he ventured out of the cafe where he and others had taken refuge, and described seeing the MP on the floor with her face bleeding.
:: Live: Jo Cox Dies From Injuries After Shooting
Mr Abdallah told Sky News: "I saw people rushing down the road towards the library.
"I came out with a couple of people from the restaurant to see what was happening.
"We saw a man wearing a dirty white baseball cap and a grey short jacket.
"He started jostling with somebody.
"I could see somebody, the owner of a dry cleaners, he was the hero of the scene.
"He jostled with him and everything.
"All of a sudden the guy wearing a baseball cap pulled a gun
"It looked like a gun from the First World War or a handmade gun.
"It's not like the usual gun you see normally.
"He fired the first shot.
"Then I ran away, as everybody else did. All of a sudden we heard the second shot."
:: Labour In Shock At 'Horrific' Jo Cox Murder
Mr Abdallah went on: "Obviously, we remained in the restaurant for a couple of minutes. Then we decided to venture out and see what had happened.
"Then we went out and at first I didn't recognise that she was Jo.
"A lady was on the floor, her face bleeding. Her hair roughed up as if she'd been pulled by her hair.
"Everybody was crying, the women, I'm absolutely shocked."
He added: "I know Jo very well. We did the campaign for Labour councillor last month. It's absolutely devastating."
Another witness told Sky News: "It was panic really. Everybody in the area was running around a bit in chaos wondering what had happened.
"There were police cars coming from every different direction, unmarked cars.
"A helicopter came over pretty quickly.
"You could just feel that something had happened."
He added: "You could just see the lady laying on the floor. There was a big crowd of people standing around trying to tend to her."
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/mp-gun-attacker-walked-off-coolly-says-witness-140029726.html
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Westminster In Shock At MP's 'Horrific' Death
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Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn says the whole party will be in shock "at the horrific murder" of Jo Cox in her constituency.
Mrs Cox, 41, who was married with two children, was shot and stabbed in the street in Birstall, West Yorkshire.
A 52-year-old man named locally as Tommy Mair was arrested shortly after the attack.
In a statement Mr Corbyn said: "The whole of the Labour Party and Labour family - and indeed the whole country - will be in shock at the horrific murder of Jo Cox today.
"Jo had a lifelong record of public service and a deep commitment to humanity. She worked both for Oxfam and the anti-slavery charity, the Freedom Fund, before she was elected last year.
"Jo was dedicated to getting us to live up to our promises to support the developing world and strengthen human rights and she brought those values and principles with her when she became an MP.
Live: Jo Cox Dies From Injuries After Shooting
"Jo died doing her public duty at the heart of our democracy, listening to and representing the people she was elected to serve. It is a profoundly important cause for us all.
"Jo was universally liked at Westminster, not just by her Labour colleagues, but across Parliament."
The statement added: "In the coming days, there will be questions to answer about how and why she died. But for now all our thoughts are with Jo's husband Brendan and their two young children."
Deputy Labour Leader Tom Watson said: "The whole of the Labour movement is devastated at Jo's death.
"It is hard to comprehend how a compassionate, principled and beautiful person can be taken away from us so cruelly."
Prime Minister David Cameron said: "The death of Jo Cox is a tragedy. She was a committed and caring MP. My thoughts are with her husband Brendan and her two young children."
Home Secretary Theresa May said Mrs Cox was one of the "brightest and most popular" MPs and the pain her family and friends are suffering is "unimaginable".
"It is entirely appropriate that all campaigning for the referendum has been suspended."
:: Former Oxfam Activist Was A Labour 'Star'
Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron said: "I am utterly heartbroken at the news of the death of Jo Cox. This is a devastating attack on our peaceful society."
Former Prime Minister Gordon Brown said: "Jo Cox was the most vivacious, personable, dynamic and committed friend you could ever have.
"Whenever you talked to her, the compassion in her eyes and the commitment in her soul shone through. Years of public service advancing the causes she cared passionately about should have been ahead of her.
"She went to some of the most dangerous places in the world. The last place she should have been in danger was in her home town."
Former Labour leader Ed Miliband said: "My heart breaks for the loss of Jo Cox and for Brendan and their kids. She was so full of life and joy. Words feel hopeless right now."
Labour's Yvette Cooper said Mrs Cox had been "one of liveliest, bravest and most passionate MPs", while her husband Ed Balls said there were "no words to describe how awful this is".
Fellow Labour MP Jess Phillips said: "My heart is broken. She was amazing, a brave giant who stood against bullies."
Gabrielle Giffords, the former US politician who was shot in a supermarket car park in Tucson , Arizona, has also offered her condolences.
She tweeted: "Absolutely sickened to hear of the assassination of Jo Cox. Yet another reason why we need better laws that help keep guns out of dangerous hands."
The Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby said: "The death of Jo Cox is terrible, most for her family & friends, but also for what the whole country has lost. We pray for those who mourn."
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/labour-shock-horrific-jo-cox-murder-163746974.html
And what is YOUR opinion on the topic you posted?
I indicated one or two suggestions from just looking at the story 1st time..
but I have not as yet looked into the finer details..
It maybe we need someone Like Infowars UK reporter to come up with some back ground information on her and what possible factors may be connected to it.
or see what else the Media comes up with.. and maybe try to read between the lines..
I think as many of us on such forum come across so many possible theories..many of us have a series of possible things that may crop up in our minds.. like false flags..may it be a type of political thing set up by who ever...to take out an opponent or create havoc right near the time of something like the EU referendum agenda..that say they suggested that it was a Muslim that has murdered her... what sort of thing will that do to the masses minds..
or it maybe she upset someone at sometime with her Political agendas that may have upset someone or caused them harm..
one eg with some people / some political agendas..maybe like when the Govt have cut disability and benefits... where its been suggested this has caused many people to die from hardship...
.BUT as I do not as yet know the full facts..Im only Widely speculating..
or it may just have been a one off very unfortunate event..but I am rather doubtful with it only being one week before a major Political campaign.
I don't recall anything ever happening like this before in the UK.. so I think for the British it is quite a large shock..
Im not sure how many US politicians other than Past Presidents that may have been murdered in the USA ?
It may seem more likely as we see so many US TV fictional programs where such things are shown to happen.
Do you have any thoughts on it Sgt ?
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on June 17, 2016, 02:05:25 AM
And what is YOUR opinion on the topic you posted?
This is a report on it so far from Info wars on the issue by A.J and Paul Watson..
see from just 1 hr 15 mins 30 sec mark..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94MtLCMOK-4
There has been some suggestions I came across recently that Paul Watson is a Mi5 or M16 agent..
It was also suggested that he is also a shapeshiting Reptilian ! and I can understand why , as I have witnessed something that in one one of his videos, his eyes appeared to change at one point to as being reptilian like... :o I think it has happened on a few occasions.. Is it a video error or is there maybe something to it ?
(http://images.uncyclomedia.co/uncyclopedia/en/thumb/e/ea/PaulWatsonWTF.jpg/250px-PaulWatsonWTF.jpg) :)
who knows..
It maybe A.J and Watson etc are all part of the establishment...
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Some early stage comments / article with tweets on the subject by Watson..
The Political Establishment Will Exploit the Murder of Jo Cox to Kill Brexit
'Not all Muslims' crowd will blame all 'Vote Leave' conservatives for shooting of MP
The shooting of Labour MP Jo Cox will be swiftly exploited by the political establishment and blamed on those who want to limit immigration and vote to leave the European Union.
Mother of three Cox, who supported the 'Vote Remain' campaign, was stabbed and shot in her constituency near Leeds today.
The killer reportedly shouted "Britain first" during the incident, although Maria Eagle MP, one of the most prominent people to make this claim, has since deleted her tweet about it.
It has since emerged that the man has received treatment for mental illness and was in receipt of "psychotherapy and medication". He also "had no political views" and no opinion on the EU referendum.
However, the facts don't really matter to the left, who scream "Not All Muslims!" after every Islamist attack, but will immediately exploit the death of Jo Cox to frame 'Vote Leave' supporters as dangerous extremists.
As Mike Cernovich writes, "The media will use the Jo Cox shooting as a way to push the pro-EU narrative. Watch it happen in real time. Agenda "journalism."
Pro-EU politicians are already shamefully exploiting the incident to push their agenda.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/the-political-establishment-will-exploit-the-death-of-jo-cox-to-kill-brexit.html
when this storey cam out there was no indication of when it happened , whats wrong with simple news reporting these day ? apparently shes already had her replacement voted in .. I really don't have a grasp of the time frame all this happened in as theres is no mention of time in this storey .. I checked bbc .. nothing
maybe it happened yesterday or last week ?
funbox
I think I had the same concern initially when I read the 1st article about it..and could not see the details when it had been said to have occurred..
I just checked wikipedia and they have wrote the details in... as being yesterday June 16th at 1 pm..U.K time..
but I did get the impression that it had occurred earlier based on certain things that were being suggested in various articles with ref to other M.Ps comments on it..
Im trying to work out when I posted the initial article ...I think the time shown in my post that says 11.14 am... which is USA Pacific time ..which is somewhere about 8 hrs behind the UK time..
so Id say I posted the article in this thread at about 19.14 hrs UK time.. only about 6 hrs after it is suggested it happened..
I may have come across some other things and added later..as my last edit was 11.50 am PT..(19.50 hrs UK)
Sometimes they delay in saying too much in the early stages..but they did indicate the thoughts of other MPs etc within 10 hrs off it having happened..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jo_Cox
QuoteOn 16 June 2016, Cox was fatally shot and stabbed outside a library in Birstall, West Yorkshire, prior to attending a constituency surgery scheduled for 1:00 pm.[12][29]
According to eyewitnesses, she was shot three times—once near the head—and stabbed multiple times. A 77-year-old was also stabbed while trying to prevent her death. Police are investigating reports that the assailant shouted "Britain first" as he carried out the attack.[12][29][30] The far-right Britain First party issued a statement denying any involvement or encouragement in the attack and suggested that the phrase "could have been a slogan rather than a reference to our party".[31][32]
Four hours after the incident, West Yorkshire Police announced that Cox had died at Leeds General Infirmary.[29][33] This was the first violent death of an MP for more than a quarter of a century,[34] since Ian Gow was assassinated by the Provisional Irish Republican Army in 1990,[35][36] and the first serious assault on an MP since Stephen Timms was stabbed by Roshonara Choudhry in an attempted assassination in 2010.[37][38] A 52-year-old former psychiatric patient was arrested in connection with Cox's death.[12][39]
Cox's husband, Brendan, issued a statement following her death, urging people to "fight against the hatred that killed her".[40] Among those who paid tribute to Cox were Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn, who described her as someone who was "dedicated to getting us to live up to our promises to support the developing world and strengthen human rights",[41] while Prime Minister David Cameron said she was "a star for her constituents, a star in parliament, and right across the house".[42] US Democrat Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton paid tribute, saying "it is cruel and terrible that her life was cut short".[43]
Quote from: funbox on June 17, 2016, 11:35:40 AM
when this storey cam out there was no indication of when it happened , whats wrong with simple news reporting these day ? apparently shes already had her replacement voted in .. I really don't have a grasp of the time frame all this happened in as theres is no mention of time in this storey .. I checked bbc .. nothing
maybe it happened yesterday or last week ?
funbox
Quote from: astr0144 on June 17, 2016, 12:57:08 PM
Im trying to work out when I posted the initial article ...I think the time shown in my post that says 11.14 am... which is USA Pacific time ..which is somewhere about 8 hrs behind the UK time..
are you British Astro ?
funbox
Yes from England...
Are you in the USA ?
Quoteare you British Astro ?
Quote from: astr0144 on June 17, 2016, 01:49:44 PM
Yes from England...
Are you in the USA ?
no ,in the dire where you are almost exactly centre :D.., of course the street lights thread , given that there not many places with them ...
funbox
Jo Cox death: Suspect linked to far-right political group that campaigned against the EU.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/jo-cox-dead-thomas-mair-suspect-south-africa-apartheid-a7086426.html
this one seems very nasty that those opposing may say such cruel thing... but for some of us it maybe or seem like War ! as the effects on some of our lives maybe even be life (Quality)or death ..!
Far Right, Trump fans celebrate murder of UK Labour MP Jo Cox
QuoteEarlier today, British politician Jo Cox — a Labour party member of Parliament — was brutally murdered during a meeting with constituents.
While many have been quick to dismiss the horrific attack as the work of a deranged loner, it's hard not to suspect a political motive: Cox fought against bigotry and was a staunch opponent of Britain leaving the European Union; the man arrested for the crime had connections to a far-right group that defended South Africa's apartheid government and that has campaigned hard in favor of what's known as Brexit.
While we still don't know for sure what the killer's motives are, that hasn't stopped some of the most fervent supporters of Brexit are celebrating Cox's death.
While many of the internet's most terrible people have been leaning hard on the utterly unsubstantiated notion that the murder was a "false flag" by leftists opposed to #Brexit, others haven't even bother to pretend that they felt bad about Jo Cox's violent death.
Naturally, this response hs been most pronounced amongst those on the far right. In the US, that means some of the same people who have been trying their best to whip up anti-Muslim anger in the wake of the Orlando massacre.
It will be no shock to readers of this blog to discover that some of these repugnant alleged humans are also big fans of one Donald J. Trump. Tommy Grooves, a self-described "constitutionalist, Patriot, Libertarian, AltRight, Defender of LIBERTY" actually appended a #Trump2016 hashtag to this horrendous tweet:
http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2016/06/16/far-right-trump-fans-celebrate-murder-of-uk-labour-mp-jo-cox/
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Far Right, Trump fans celebrate murder of UK Labour MP Jo Cox
QuoteEarlier today, British politician Jo Cox — a Labour party member of Parliament — was brutally murdered during a meeting with constituents.
While many have been quick to dismiss the horrific attack as the work of a deranged loner, it's hard not to suspect a political motive: Cox fought against bigotry and was a staunch opponent of Britain leaving the European Union; the man arrested for the crime had connections to a far-right group that defended South Africa's apartheid government and that has campaigned hard in favor of what's known as Brexit.
While we still don't know for sure what the killer's motives are, that hasn't stopped some of the most fervent supporters of Brexit are celebrating Cox's death.
While many of the internet's most terrible people have been leaning hard on the utterly unsubstantiated notion that the murder was a "false flag" by leftists opposed to #Brexit, others haven't even bother to pretend that they felt bad about Jo Cox's violent death.
Naturally, this response hs been most pronounced amongst those on the far right. In the US, that means some of the same people who have been trying their best to whip up anti-Muslim anger in the wake of the Orlando massacre.
It will be no shock to readers of this blog to discover that some of these repugnant alleged humans are also big fans of one Donald J. Trump. Tommy Grooves, a self-described "constitutionalist, Patriot, Libertarian, AltRight, Defender of LIBERTY" actually appended a #Trump2016 hashtag to this horrendous tweet:
http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2016/06/16/far-right-trump-fans-celebrate-murder-of-uk-labour-mp-jo-cox/
Could this be possible or can we trust the CIA ?
CIA OFFICER: OBAMA IS A MUSLIM AGENT WITH BROTHERHOOD TIES TO TAKE DOWN USA
QuoteClare Lopez is a former CIA officer, and she is risking her professional career to call out President Barack Obama in a big way.
Lopez is respected in the intelligence community and worked in the Reagan White House. After two decades in the field with the CIA, and as a special forces instructor and intelligence students, Lopez now works with the Center for Security Policy and managers the counter-jihad and Shariah programs.
Now, she says Obama is why America has "switched sides" during the war on terrorism. America is now supporting the enemy through the Muslim Brotherhood.
Lopez has not spoken in public, but confided with a few people in the House of Representatives of her concerns about Obama's motivations about foreign policy decisions.
Lopez noted that the war on terrorism has been about stopping the spread of Shariah Islamic law, until Obama started to make changes that support the Muslim Brotherhood's jihadist interests.
She said the global war on terror was an effort to "stay free of Sharia," or repressive Islamic law, until the Obama administration started siding with jihadist groups like the Muslim Brotherhood and its affiliates.
Why this switch?
Lopez explained, when the so-called Arab Spring appeared in late 2010, "It was time to bring down the secular Muslim rulers who did not enforce Islamic law. And America helped."
And why would Obama want to do that?
As she told WND earlier this month, Lopez believed the Muslim Brotherhood has thoroughly infiltrated the Obama administration and other branches of the federal government.
She also came to the conclusion Obama had essentially the same goals in the Mideast as the late Osama bin Laden: "to remove American power and influence, including military forces, from Islamic lands."
There's also this...
The former CIA operative said, "as Israel fought enemies on all sides to remain free, secure and Jewish, America began to move away from Israel and toward its Muslim enemies. And, as Iran moved inexorably toward a deliverable nuclear weapons capability, America helped."
Lopez also says the only reason Obama approved the killing of Osama bin Laden is because he couldn't ignore the chance without looking suspicious. The opportunity presented himself and he "couldn't delay it any longer."
http://reagancoalition.com/articles/2016/cia-officer-obama-is-a-muslim-agent-with-brotherhood-ties-to-take-down-usa.html?utm_source=fnot1&utm_medium=facebook
I'm suspicious. It just seems to favour what the establishment want too much. Don't like what I'm thinking.