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Title: Ancient Atomic War.
Post by: astr0144 on July 21, 2016, 04:19:16 PM
Ancient Atomic War.

Has there been previous Nuclear bombs or wars ?

Check out the video in the link below..

In 1996 in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo, an Italian mineralogist spotted an unusual yellow-green gem in the middle of one of Tutankhamun's necklaces. The jewel was tested and found to be glass, but intriguingly it turned out to be older than the earliest Egyptian civilization...


https://www.facebook.com/robertsepehr/videos/10153877458379385/?pnref=story
Title: Re: Ancient Atomic War.
Post by: space otter on July 21, 2016, 05:45:04 PM
Dear Astro
you are way too GULLIBLE on the facebook postings and some other stuff.. do some research on it and clear it up for yourself first

try some of these


http://www.livescience.com/38995-egyptian-beads-made-from-meteorites.html

http://www.sci-news.com/archaeology/article01118-ancient-egypt-meteorite-jewelry.html


http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-08/confirmed-egyptian-jewelry-came-meteorites


http://www.ecouterre.com/ancient-egyptians-made-iron-jewelry-from-pieces-of-meteorite/egyptian-meteroite-jewelry-1/


http://gem5.com/tag/egypt/



edit to add this one.. it's the one you want to read first

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5196362.stm


and here

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=500.msg4125#msg4125
Title: Re: Ancient Atomic War.
Post by: astr0144 on July 21, 2016, 06:06:42 PM
Some things I find that I think maybe of interest...and I either do or do not post them at the time..

I do not always have time to check thru past posts..or go thru what maybe many associated similar threads...and then try to decide which to post it in..

I do not say whether or not I believe... its just another theory.. like many things that get posted..
maybe this is a topic that you have knowledge or some connected interest about..

but thanks for your articles should they relate to the topic.. or if they rule the theory out..

The person who created that video claimed to be some expert in such things... One may assume he was aware of similar Meteorite  jewelry..

He made out that the item he referred to  had been tested and could not be understood and was believed to have been a material created thru such severe heat similar to a nuclear blast.

if he was aware they were meteorites then, apologies for posting from someone who is a fake..

A meteor would seem a good probability as opposed to a past Nuke blast...

but have we not had past meteorites also hit the earth that may have been similar to Nuclear blasts and melted existing Earthly substances to become like the substance he describes.... he suggest however there was no suggestions such a things occurred in that area..

but there maybe also a theory that such meteor blast like  impacts may have created such desert like lands..

What I am not sure about is ...Are your articles with ref to Meteorite jewelry the same as the one he refers to.... in which he seemed to suggest maybe more likely have been created BY either a Nuke blast or the effect from a meteor impact that then in turn may had melted other earthly substances to then become glass like ...maybe like when we melt sand to become glass...   rather than the object he refers to as being an actual meteorite...which seems to be what your articles show egs of...

if the glass like object he refers to is from what ever event or thing that created it that way... did it come from somewhere else on Earth...from another area where a meteor impact occurred... as he suggest there is no signs of a meteor  impact  around the area where they lived..

He also said there were more than one similar sample found in the nearby desert....BUT does not say or suggest they were actual meteorites that were found in the desert..

I know Meteorites do land on earth in many places and of varying size....many are found in the Artic where they easily stand out on the white surface.. and no doubt some will land in deserts...as individual pieces...  but could they land and already be like the object that he refers to ?

Any thoughts on that ?

QuoteDear Astro
you are way too GULLIBLE on the facebook postings and some other stuff.. do some research on it and clear it up for yourself first

try some of these
Title: Re: Ancient Atomic War.
Post by: space otter on July 21, 2016, 07:40:31 PM


QuoteAny thoughts on that ?

since you asked
Quote
One may assume he was aware of similar Meteorite  jewelry

imo 
to assume anything you read is true (on line or on paper) is unintelligent...
you have to read with a critical eye and then search for more info on the veracity of what you have found

Quote.Are your articles with ref to Meteorite jewelry the same as the one he refers to

well if you would have taken the time to look you wouldn't have to ask

and that is my point  about your and some others  posts

i
Quotef the glass like object he refers to is from what ever event or thing that created it that way... did it come from somewhere else on Earth...from another area where a meteor impact occurred... as he suggest there is no signs of a meteor  impact  around the area where they lived..

on what is his opinion based on.. where are his facts?  what researcvh has he done that he can point to to back up his theory.. or is he honest enough to say that he is curious and it is only a theory?


since you didn't read any of the links i will go to the trouble to copy it for you
look at the dates
these farcebook people are famous for hearing something and expounding on it without any further attempt at proof or disproof..they mostly just run at the mouth..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5196362.stm
   
Last Updated: Wednesday, 19 July 2006, 19:09 GMT 20:09 UK

wow look even a photo..imagine that
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41907000/jpg/_41907776_pectoral_bbc_203.jpg)
Thing of beauty: Tutankhamun's Pectoral with desert glass scarab

Tut's gem hints at space impact

In 1996 in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo, Italian mineralogist Vincenzo de Michele spotted an unusual yellow-green gem in the middle of one of Tutankhamun's necklaces.
The jewel was tested and found to be glass, but intriguingly it is older than the earliest Egyptian civilisation.

Working with Egyptian geologist Aly Barakat, they traced its origins to unexplained chunks of glass found scattered in the sand in a remote region of the Sahara Desert.

But the glass is itself a scientific enigma. How did it get to be there and who or what made it?

The BBC Horizon programme has reported an extraordinary new theory linking Tutankhamun's gem with a meteor.

Sky of fire

An Austrian astrochemist Christian Koeberl had established that the glass had been formed at a temperature so hot that there could be only one known cause: a meteorite impacting with Earth. And yet there were no signs of a suitable impact crater, even in satellite images.

American geophysicist John Wasson is another scientist interested in the origins of the glass. He suggested a solution that came directly from the forests of Siberia.

"When the thought came to me that it required a hot sky, I thought immediately of the Tunguska event," he told Horizon.

In 1908, a massive explosion flattened 80 million trees in Tunguska, Siberia.

Although there was no sign of a meteorite impact, scientists now think an extraterrestrial object of some kind must have exploded above Tunguska. Wasson wondered if a similar aerial burst could have produced enough heat to turn the ground to glass in the Egyptian desert.

Jupiter clue

The first atomic bomb detonation, at the Trinity site in New Mexico in 1945, created a thin layer of glass on the sand. But the area of glass in the Egyptian desert is vastly bigger.

Whatever happened in Egypt must have been much more powerful than an atomic bomb.

   
Dr Mark Boslough, Great Sand Sea (BBC)
Boslough's specialism is modelling large impacts

Impact simulation
A natural airburst of that magnitude was unheard of until, in 1994, scientists watched as comet Shoemaker-Levy collided with Jupiter. It exploded in the Jovian atmosphere, and the Hubble telescope recorded the largest incandescent fireball ever witnessed rising over Jupiter's horizon.

Mark Boslough, who specialises in modelling large impacts on supercomputers, created a simulation of a similar impact on Earth.

The simulation revealed that an impactor could indeed generate a blistering atmospheric fireball, creating surface temperatures of 1,800C, and leaving behind a field of glass.

"What I want to emphasise is that it is hugely bigger in energy than the atomic tests," said Boslough. "Ten thousand times more powerful."

Defence lessons

The more fragile the incoming object, the more likely these airborne explosions are to happen.

In Southeast Asia, John Wasson has unearthed the remains of an event 800,000 years ago that was even more powerful and damaging than the one in the Egyptian desert; one which produced multiple fireballs and left glass over three hundred thousand square miles, with no sign of a crater.

"Within this region, certainly all of the humans would have been killed. There would be no hope for anything to survive," he said.

Dr Aly Barakat with desert glass in hand (TV6/BBC)
Barakat holds up one of the many, huge chunks of glass in the desert
According to Boslough and Wasson, events similar to Tunguska could happen as frequently as every 100 years, and the effect of even a small airburst would be comparable to many Hiroshima bombs.

Attempting to blow up an incoming asteroid, Hollywood style, could well make things worse by increasing the number of devastating airbursts.

"There are hundreds of times more of these smaller asteroids than there are the big ones the astronomers track," said Mark Boslough. "There will be another impact on the earth. It's just a matter of when."

Horizon: Tutunkhamun's Fireball, made by production company TV6, was broadcast on BBC Two on Thursday, 20 July
Title: Re: Ancient Atomic War.
Post by: astr0144 on July 22, 2016, 06:34:49 PM
Space otter,

Just a couple of initial comments for now..

I just want to point out that I do not always believe in the  whole things that I post...in ref to when you suggest I am gullible about certain ones...

(That maybe truth in somethings at times..I certainly have been in my journey..and hopefully since learned a few things..but I maybe more fallible than many folk on here as I don't think that I am as clever as many on here...and I am not someone who can check absorb or interpret data and analyse it as quickly..

Then when I may see something that really interests me that may involve numerous related connected things..sometimes its too indepth for me to handle..and my mind goes into a maze or amazement..then there maybe too many facts to try to absorb and understand..Im sure at times we all experience that)

Looking at your reply..

I THINK that I had came to a similar conclusion as what you posted.. ie that it was likely a meteor impact somewhere else on Earth.. ..

I had looked at most of your links...and saw pictures of neckless's.. which some where made from other meteors...

but for what ever reason I missed the link from the BBC that you have posted...

That does seem along the lines of some of the things that was suggested...and I was aware of that event in Russia..

That hopefully does explain it.. unless I am still missing something !

Thanks for posting it.. :)
Title: Re: Ancient Atomic War.
Post by: space otter on July 22, 2016, 07:04:11 PM


hugs Astro

i apologize for getting impatient with you on your journey..that wasn't kind of me..sorry
we are all on a journey and sometimes we don't give enough space to others because we mistaken'y think we should all be on the same page

thank the goddess that we aren't.. how boring that would be