The Secrets of SchröteriHaven't had a good Moon Anomaly thread for some time... mostly due to lack of time to search images. But in one of the LRO images NASA uses the title "Secrets of Schröteri"
Now when NASA uses a term like that, one just has to be curious. It is also important to note that this area was the planned landing site for Apollo 18... a coincidence?
Exhuberant1 wanted to see... and started searching... he just had to find the 'secret' Below is what he found...
The Secrets of Schröteri
PIA13688This is the full image of the area scanned... the black strips showing the sections...
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Moon7/Schoteri/PIA13688.jpg)
Image Credit: NASA/GSFC/Arizona State University
QuoteOriginal Caption Released with Image:
Vallis Schröteri is a magnificent sinuous rille and of particular interest is its inner rille, which diverges from the primary rille near the arrow. This nested form indicates that multiple eruptive events occurred or there was a large change in the volume of a single eruption over time. LROC WAC mosaic, 100 meters/pixel (328 feet/pixel).
NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center built and manages the mission for the Exploration Systems Mission Directorate at NASA Headquarters in Washington. The Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera was designed to acquire data for landing site certification and to conduct polar illumination studies and global mapping. Operated by Arizona State University, LROC consists of a pair of narrow-angle cameras (NAC) and a single wide-angle camera (WAC). The mission is expected to return over 70 terabytes of image data.
Image Addition Date: 2010-12-02
SOURCE: NASA PIA13688: Secrets of Schröteri (http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA13688)
Full-Res TIFF: PIA13688.tif (2.253 MB) (http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/tiff/PIA13688.tif)
Full-Res JPEG: PIA13688.jpg (340.7 kB) (http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA13688.jpg)Here is the source of one of the strips... the one with the 'secret'
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Moon7/Schoteri/secretsofschotericroppi.jpg)
Image Credit: NASA/GSFC/Arizona State University
Closeup One
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Moon7/Schoteri/schroterizoom.jpg)
Closeup Two
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Moon7/Schoteri/Cilp_001.png)
Full Strip 20% scale Image # M129635733RE
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Moon7/Schoteri/M129635733RE_900.png)
Image Credit: NASA/GSFC/Arizona State University
Full Size Strip (http://wms.lroc.asu.edu/lroc_browse/view/M129635733RE)
This topic was originally posted at ATS - The Secrets of Schröteri Crater (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread663598/pg1)
Lunar Orbiter LO-5-168-H2 Reminds me of this one from the old Lunar Orbiter images LO-5-168-H2
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Moon9/LO_5_168/Track_01a.png)
The bright object is about the size of a house and it too has those odd tracks
QuoteOriginally posted by Aggie Man (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread663598/pg1#pid10583096)
My best guess is that the image shows a boulder
Seriously? This looks like a boulder to you?
(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/1cf44321b4af.png)
QuoteOriginally posted by fockewulf190
It does look like it could be one of the old Soviet lunar rovers back from the 70`s.
Maybe.. they did lose track of one of them ...
(http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/spacecraft/russia/lunokhod1.jpg)
Quoteoriginally posted by Blue Shift (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread663598/pg3#pid10586302)
I'm thinking something like this, where the boulders eroded in various sizes as a result of heating and cooling by the Sun, then bounced/rolled downhill (blue arrows). The pink rocks are those which could have come from the boulder cluster, depending on how much they broke or bounced, etc.
(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/89c0048c07fe.png)
reply to post by Blue ShiftFor years I get grief from the skeptics when I colorize the anomalies...
How ironic to see a skeptic attempt the same methods
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/lol.gif)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/banners/Exuberant1.jpg) Exuberant1
Here is an image I was using to try to describe what we might be seeing. The shadow sketch on the right is just a rough paint sketch done for speculative purposes. I think I got the 'dish' portion wrong:
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2032/schrotericombo.jpg)
For those who don't know about scrollable images, here is the shadow sketch:
(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9346/schroteriprobe.jpg)
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Exuberant1QuoteOriginally posted by Pimander (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread663598/pg2#pid10585634)
It might be boulder, but it looks gun shaped and smoking at first glance.
QuoteOriginally posted by tsawyer2 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread663598/pg5#pid10588250)
If this photo is 0.8m per pixel, wouldn't that make this object 50-75m across?
My bad, the object is from an image strip with a res of 0.6m per pixel.
Whatever this is it is pretty big - it certainly looks larger than anything else man-made which the LRO has captured thus far.
P.S.
... So you're baffled. Welcome to the club bro.
Also, Here is my size guesstimation:
(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/8233/schroteriscale.jpg)
It is big...
QuoteOriginally posted by RemiLP
i see a VERY blurry picture, that i realy cant get anything out of at all. You need alot of imagination to see anything at all in that picture.
Well we cannot help your eyesight... need an optometrist for that
So what do you see in THIS photo?
(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/caf815812a84.jpg)
QuoteOriginally posted by RemiLP
not sure of what to make of this tho. not good enough to really tell what it is. could be anything.
Same question for you... what do you see in the image above?
::)
Bendix Lunar Roving Vehicle (LRV) Test Article (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/banners/Exuberant1.jpg)
Exuberant1You know how that Schröteri anom is big, well check out this test model they were working on - it is also huge:
(http://mix.msfc.nasa.gov/IMAGES/MEDIUM/6640855.jpg)
QuoteFull Description:
An engineer demonstrates a Mobility Test Article (MTA) at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center (MSFC). This unit, weighing 1/6th as much as an actual vehicle, was built by the Bendix Corporation and was one of the concepts of a possible Lunar Roving Vehicle (LRV). The data provided by the MTA helped in designing the Lunar Roving Vehicle (LRV), developed under the direction of MSFC. The LRV was designed to allow Apollo astronauts a greater range of mobility during lunar exploration missions.
Date of Image: 1966-06-07
Category: Saturn Apollo Program
Bendix Lunar Roving Vehicle (LRV) Test Article (http://www.nasaimages.org/luna/servlet/detail/nasaNAS~9~9~59140~162985?sort=Title%252CDate)
Bendix Lunar Roving Vehicle (LRV) Test Article How the HECK were they going to get THAT big thing up there? :o
(http://www.capcomespace.net/dossiers/espace_US/apollo/vaisseaux/lunar_rover/LRV%20Mobility%20Test%20Article%20%28MTA%29%20Bendix%20Corporation.jpg)
French Site (http://www.capcomespace.net/dossiers/espace_US/apollo/vaisseaux/lunar_rover/LRV.htm)ELM/ULRV Mission to Apennine Front-Hadley Rille (1968) (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nC18y6pSoX4/TW2zRo0DNdI/AAAAAAAAI30/9U_9kkMTqw0/s1600/hadap3.jpg)
QuoteIn May 1968, Bellcomm planners Noel Hinners, Farouk El-Baz, and A. Goetz described a unique post-Apollo mission to the Apennine Front-Hadley Rille region of the moon. The mission would see a melding of manned and automated lunar exploration, yielding results greater than either astronauts or exploring machines could achieve on their own.
Hinners, El-Baz, and Goetz invoked an Extended Lunar Module (ELM) capable of bearing 750 pounds of payload to the moon's surface. During the crew's first venture outside the ELM, they would rendezvous with a waiting Unmanned Lunar Roving Vehicle (ULRV). The wheeled ULRV, with a mass of between 1500 and 3000 pounds, would have landed some 500 kilometers from the Apennine Front-Hadley Rille ELM site some time earlier, then made its way to meet the astronauts, all the while beaming TV images of its surroundings to Earth, charting the moon's gravity and magnetic fields, leaving behind Remote Geophysical Monitor instrument packages, and collecting rock samples. The ELM astronauts would retrieve the ULRV rock samples for return to Earth.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-H7bx6TWdzcU/TWniPyX9daI/AAAAAAAAI3k/qEFmUrViv1E/s320/hadap2a.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ug2em0PkQ2s/TWsdCYfKyQI/AAAAAAAAI3s/VsWiPZ1ya0k/s320/HadAp1%2Bcopy.jpg)
QuoteThe Bellcomm planners proposed four candidate traverse routes for the ULRV (top map above). For route 1, the automated rover would land in the Sulpicius Gallus region of southwest Mare Serenitatis and strike north through an area of north/south-trending rilles (canyons) and dark (possibly volcanic and young) surface material. The lunar Apennine Mountains would dominate the western horizon as the ULRV rolled northward, gradually entering a region with lighter and older surface materials.
Beyond Apollo - Saturday, February 26, 2011
ELM/ULRV Mission to Apennine Front-Hadley Rille (1968) (http://beyondapollo.blogspot.com/2011/02/mission-to-apennine-front-hadley-rille.html)Full NASA Report - A Preliminary ELM:/Unmanned LRV Mission Plan for the Apennine Front-Hadley Rille Area - Case 340 (http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19790072311_1979072311.pdf) - [PDF][Archived]
To be continued from Here
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread663598/pg10#pid10598478