Hillary Clinton Collapses Leaving 9/11 Memorial.
It has been suggested that Hillary Clinton has had health issues...and now this seems to prove it.
Or is it being made to look that way !
There's also suggestions that She is loosing ground in the Election campaign and the Powers that Be may come up with a plan to delay or stop the election...
Could this be part of it ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVDyciOQCak
MSM Forced To Admit Hillary Is Unfit For Office.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTV5uHxlbpQ
Pneumonia. A lung illness. It isn't permanent so it remains to be seen whether she will be fit enough to be in office. The other candidate is in his seventies and may well not be fit enough for the next five years either.
Why don't you guys try electing someone a bit younger. You're welcome to have David Cameron or Theresa may by the way... :)
what would happen to the elections , say the day before it, Hillary died ? would the Trump win auto like ?
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Dunno. I expect they would have another Democrat step in and postpone the election. Vice President to stay on as caretaker?
What if they both drop dead. No President for 4 years? What would they do without a spokesperson for the permanent advisers?
Quote from: Pimander on September 12, 2016, 11:00:51 AM
Dunno. I expect they would have another Democrat step in and postpone the election. Vice President to stay on as caretaker?
What if they both drop dead. No President for 4 years? What would they do without a spokesperson for the permanent advisers?
or
*a tentacle lashes a card down , quick as you like*
(http://i.imgur.com/i0p4n4l.gif)
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Pneumonia may be related to Parkinson's or congestive heart failure. With her long history of coughing, this is relevant.
I have heard that Bill expressed doubt about her running for President because of long term health issues, some time ago. Conrad Black ran an excellent oped piece today in which he blasted the weakness and incapacity of the Bush/Clinton/Obama Presidencies. Long term problems haven't been addressed.
Quote from: Eighthman on September 12, 2016, 03:26:23 PM
Pneumonia may be related to Parkinson's or congestive heart failure.
How? ???
Quote from: ArMaP on September 12, 2016, 09:33:18 PM
How? ???
Does everyone here know the same BS about Parkinson's was formerly written about Bill Clinton too?
Quote from: Pimander on September 13, 2016, 12:07:29 AM
Does everyone here know the same BS about Parkinson's was formerly written about Bill Clinton too?
no ?.. did Bill ever do an impression of woody woodpecker? :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEwSnE3upbw
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This one is 2009.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqLcqTGV7ds
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Quote from: Pimander on September 13, 2016, 12:58:28 AM
This one is 2009.
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my mistake , it was Monika that was the impressionist
(http://i.imgur.com/Pp1pl6p.jpg)
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Quote from: ArMaP on September 12, 2016, 09:33:18 PM
How? ???
QuoteMany people with Parkinson's disease have difficulty swallowing because they lose control of their mouth and throat muscles. As a result, chewing and managing solid foods can be difficult.
Swallowing problems increase the risk of aspiration (inhaling fluid or stomach contents into the lungs) and pneumonia in people with Parkinson's disease.
http://www.webmd.com/parkinsons-disease/guide/parkinsons-disease-swallowing-problems
QuoteSub for more: http://nnn.is/the_new_media | Hillary Clinton's Parkinson's Disease is confirmed in this exclusive interview with the doctor who has now gone public. Dr. Ted Noel joins Gary Franchi to examine the facts of Hillary's critical and debilitating medical crisis. Through Dr. Noel's astute observations, and relying on over 30 years in the medical field, he has concluded that Hillary Clinton is exhibiting the classic signs that point to Parkinson's Disease. He has decided to go public with his findings and appears on the Next News Network to deliver you the truth, being kept from the public, about a diagnosis that will keep her out of the Oval Office.
This video is really good and worth watching (I know you won't Armap) but maybe others? Don't know how to insert them now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XtIzH9HoC8
and after..
(http://i.imgur.com/h7lspbg.jpg)
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Quote from: Dyna on September 13, 2016, 01:09:37 AM
http://www.webmd.com/parkinsons-disease/guide/parkinsons-disease-swallowing-problems
For someone that talks so much as she does I don't think she has any problems with lack of control of her mouth or throat.
QuoteThis video is really good and worth watching (I know you won't Armap) but maybe others? Don't know how to insert them now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XtIzH9HoC8
Looking at the images on static presentation of the video I think I have seen some of those segments, and, as I said before, I don't think that they show signs of Parkinson's disease, what I think they show is that she has vision problems that prevent her from seeing the ground and give her some problems with stairs and small obstacles. Look at videos of her walking on a street on entering a large stage and you can see that she walks fast and with no signs of difficulty, moving her arms to help balance the walking, and that's one of the first things affected by Parkinson's disease (or so I have read, while I was looking for articles about vertigo and unbalance, because of a problem my younger sister had some weeks ago, I'm not a doctor)
Edited to add something that I also said before: I don't think an anaesthesiologist is the right doctor to make such a diagnosis, specially without really seeing the patient.
Quote from: ArMaP on September 13, 2016, 01:48:42 AM
For someone that talks so much as she does I don't think she has any problems with lack of control of her mouth or throat.
Looking at the images on static presentation of the video I think I have seen some of those segments, and, as I said before, I don't think that they show signs of Parkinson's disease, what I think they show is that she has vision problems that prevent her from seeing the ground and give her some problems with stairs and small obstacles. Look at videos of her walking on a street on entering a large stage and you can see that she walks fast and with no signs of difficulty, moving her arms to help balance the walking, and that's one of the first things affected by Parkinson's disease (or so I have read, while I was looking for articles about vertigo and unbalance, because of a problem my younger sister had some weeks ago, I'm not a doctor)
no way you finished watching that video.. I haven't even got to its end :D
have you a doctorate in medicine ArMaP ?
cause the guy on the video has :D
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Mi6 Ex spooks comments on the Hilary Health Situation.
There had also been suggestions of a Clone being used at some events...
The latest:-
According to this report, on 18 August the SVR reported that 3 specialized teams of US Secrete Service (SS) agents had "swarmed" a number of top American hospitals for what these intelligence analysts believed was for the purpose of Hillary Clinton needing urgent brain surgery—and was believed to have been scheduled for this weekend after it was reported on 10 September that Hillary Clinton was preparing to disappear from public view for 5 days: "Late yesterday, D.C. Whispers indicated Hillary Clinton's intention to withdraw from public view for the next five days – a report that has been subsequently confirmed via other media outlets."
With yesterday, however, being the 15th anniversary of the 11 September 2001 (9/11) terror attacks upon the US, SVR analysts that Hillary Clinton choose, instead, to attend a New York City ceremony honoring this event prior to her entering the hospital but quickly became a catastrophic health emergency after she was rushed to the street to await her motorcade (who had no advance warning of her coming) leaned against a security bollard, and then buckled towards the ground as her security guards and aides rushed to keep her from collapsing.
This report further notes that on 30 August the SVR had reported on the US media's covering up Hillary Clinton's colostomy bag, and also warning, on 6 September, that she was just months away from a "heart failure event" that could very well claim her life in the next few months.
As the US media has continued to cover up Hillary Clinton's grave health issues, yesterdays actions by them in this massive cover up were "beyond shocking" as they first reported Clinton's personal physician, Dr. Lisa Bardack, saying all was well and she was just overheated, then later saying she had pneumonia—after which she stunningly greeted a girl child on the street coming into physical contact that SVR medical analysts in this report say should never be allowed to happen with someone having such a contagious disease.
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Without being prejudicial and only drawing on my medical experience it would seem from all data before me that Hilary displays the following: She suffers from fits, that is from her dementia which has been with her for over 15 months. In addition to this she has a non operable blood clot which restrictions brain function. She is subject to being triggered by loud noises and strobe lighting (i.e. photographic flash) which can trigger seizures. This is why she wears very dark glasses and some of her rally appearances are theatre so she does not have to undergo the danger of flash exposure. She is fitted with bladder drainage pulling, a tube with a valve secured to her right thigh and knee which means she does not have control of her bladder. She is given to 'blanking out' when medical support steps in and gives her a shot to spring her back into conscious cohesion with reality. She is also given to temper tantrums, according to her secret service detail and personality changes which can occur suddenly. Her more serious conditions may include Parkinson's disease, throat cancer and a brain tumour, although some of the observed symptoms may be any one of these. All of these are observed video of her over the past 15 months or more. All in all she is very sick lady and may have a life expectancy of no more than six months to a year even with major medical support. The worrying thing, and I have first hand experience of such cases is she may be given to hallucinations, stage and bizarre personality defects and irrational thought processes. This is all very worrying for someone who could have the command of the US Nuclear arsenal at her finger tips. With respect and honestly without political prejudice it is extremely unkind to this women to expect her to continue in the nomination for President of the United States. If elected you are appointing her Deputy only; no former President displayed such a wide range of serious health problems either while in office or before hand
Different angle. 9/11 Hilary is dead from the waist down, she can't walk. She is completely out of conscious control and it is only 79 degrees F, not hot. They bring her private ambulance down first and she leaves a shoe back on the pavement as it drives off. No matter what they say this farce can no longer hold water !!
Quote from: funbox on September 13, 2016, 01:51:57 AM
no way you finished watching that video.. I haven't even got to its end :D
I didn't even started watching, so how could I finish? :)
Quotehave you a doctorate in medicine ArMaP ?
cause the guy on the video has :D
I do not, and I even said that, but one thing I know is that I would never ask an anaesthesiologist for a diagnosis of nervous system disease, although I know that that's related to their field of expertise. Also, no good doctor would publish a diagnosis without having seen the patient.
Listen guys, I actually have knowledge of brain disease because its something I have studied in academia at postgraduate level. It is related to my research work too.
I do NOT agree with the physician's analysis and while Hilary has a health problem due to a lung infection she looks unlikely to have Parkinson's disease, which is linked to dopamine. Dopamine imbalances are not in any way related to pneumonia or endometriosis.
I appreciate your comments on it Pimander.
Im trying to determine if this Spook maybe legit or not in what hes been saying about various things.
or if he is B.S ing his readers...
Some of the things he says I find very interesting..on various topics that we may discuss on P.R.C...not just the Hilary Heath situation...
So anyone with your expertise to compare what he says is welcome...
Quote from: Pimander on September 13, 2016, 11:21:48 AM
Listen guys, I actually have knowledge of brain disease because its something I have studied in academia at postgraduate level. It is related to my research work too.
I do NOT agree with the physician's analysis and while Hilary has a health problem due to a lung infection she looks unlikely to have Parkinson's disease, which is linked to dopamine. Dopamine imbalances are not in any way related to pneumonia or endometriosis.
I'll put it this way, if Hilary turns up to the face to face debate with Trump and handles it then lots of that can't true. Think about it.
"She suffers from fits, that is from her dementia which has been with her for over 15 months. In addition to this she has a non operable blood clot which restrictions brain function"
I'd suggest her brain is far higher functioning that Reagan or Bush for a start. LOL
She is ill. But that is normal for a person with that workload at her age to get the odd illness. (like a chest infection). Trump is old too and America has a history of old or sick presidents. What's new?
I was not previously aware of H.Cs health issues until seeing some recent web related articles.
When One sees her speak...overall she seems to appear capable..but I have not really watched her that much or paid any attention.
It seems several people are making many references to suggest she has this or that wrong with her..
IF she has.. in one way I would feel sorry for her...esp if she was not as corrupt as is made made out or if she had been put in a position that she had to put on such a front...maybe if she was held to ransom by above Elites...
I am sure she is much cleverer than many past Candidates in certain areas...even if she does have such brain issues..
its just concerning if she does have evil / corrupt agendas that if she wins that she aims to carry out.
if she does... then I am sure many maybe hoping she is as ILL as being suggested that may go against her campaign..
Plenty of us wish both candidates would disappear. A billionaire member of the world elite and a neo-liberal politician funded by other corporate interests? What a sh1t choice to have to make. Hmm do I go for corporate greed and corruption or corporate greed and corruption. :P
Like I say, she is ill but she almost certainly does not have Parkinson's.
As for evil agendas, the electoral system on that side of the pond practically guarantees the best funded campaigns will be candidates. But private interests are the donors so the wealthiest have the biggest say. Then when their choice of candidates are in office, the rich have the most lobbying power and have teams of people influencing senators and government officials because they can afford to pay for them.
Simple Definition of plutocracy
: government by the richest people
: a country that is ruled by the richest people
: a group of very rich people who have a lot of power
It would help if all people standing for office had the same amount of money to campaign (money from the state) and were guaranteed the same air time on TV. And corporations were not allowed to lobby only allow people to lobby.
Quote from: ArMaP on September 13, 2016, 10:27:04 AM
I didn't even started watching, so how could I finish? :)
I do not, and I even said that, but one thing I know is that I would never ask an anaesthesiologist for a diagnosis of nervous system disease, although I know that that's related to their field of expertise. Also, no good doctor would publish a diagnosis without having seen the patient.
That is the thing he was very clear that he has not examined her and cannot make a diagnosis. He was appropriate in everything not just running off on speculations. he is a very believable person because he is not trying to push anything he is simply making us aware of his own observations. Also he has a good friend with the disease (I believe another physician) and has observed his condition continuously.
If you watch the videos of her which I would assume you don't you would see how she freezes up like a dear in headlights and has to be restarted! If she is fine we will eventually know, I only hope people are not being lied to and will not be unwillingly voting in her Vice President as President.
Quote from: Dyna on September 13, 2016, 05:28:20 PM
he is a very believable person because he is not trying to push anything he is simply making us aware of his own observations.
Then why saying it publicly? If he had a genuine worry about her health he should contact her or her doctor, not appearing publicly on the Internet stating those things.
QuoteIf she is fine we will eventually know, I only hope people are not being lied to and will not be unwillingly voting in her Vice President as President.
That's the problem, even if she is fine people will keep on saying things like this and saying that her real condition is being hidden.
Quote from: ArMaP on September 13, 2016, 10:27:04 AM
I didn't even started watching, so how could I finish? :)
I do not, and I even said that, but one thing I know is that I would never ask an anaesthesiologist for a diagnosis of nervous system disease, although I know that that's related to their field of expertise. Also, no good doctor would publish a diagnosis without having seen the patient.
but the guy in the video isn't her Dr, and Probably would never get near her for an in-close diagnosis, but then you never gave his opnion any concideration , just because it was in video format.
makes no sense ArMaP, do you comment on things you don't watch just to Antagonize people ?
wouldn't the best course of action be to, just sit out that related part of the conversation tilt ?
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Quote from: funbox on September 13, 2016, 09:51:06 PM
but the guy in the video isn't her Dr, and Probably would never get near her for an in-close diagnosis, but then you never gave his opnion any concideration , just because it was in video format.
You are, again, speaking of what you do not know.
The fact I didn't see
that video doesn't mean I didn't know what he was saying, as I have seen those claims before.
Quotemakes no sense ArMaP, do you comment on things you don't watch just to Antagonize people ?
No.
Quotewouldn't the best course of action be to, just sit out that related part of the conversation tilt ?
Then how could you misinterpret what I say? :P
PS: now that I got home from work I have listened to most of the video (after some minutes I noticed that there was no need of watching it, as the images are either of the interviewer, the interviewee or the same images from Hilary Clinton repeated over and over again), and he really doesn't say any thing new when compared to what I had already read.
As a sort of a PS, the doctor liked so much his new found fame that he even created his own site on August 9, and its purpose is "to show the world how unfit Hillary Clinton is for office".
Sometimes I wonder if what makes her unfit is the fact that she is a woman. :)
Quote from: ArMaP on September 13, 2016, 09:57:26 PM
You are, again, speaking of what you do not know.
The fact I didn't see that video doesn't mean I didn't know what he was saying, as I have seen those claims before.
No.
Then how could you misinterpret what I say? :P
PS: now that I got home from work I have listened to most of the video (after some minutes I noticed that there was no need of watching it, as the images are either of the interviewer, the interviewee or the same images from Hilary Clinton repeated over and over again), and he really doesn't say any thing new when compared to what I had already read.
ok , you seem to be watching the pictures and not listening , go back and watch it one hundred times :D
*a tentacle lazily flicks a cane back and forth*
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Quote from: ArMaP on September 13, 2016, 10:01:00 PM
As a sort of a PS, the doctor liked so much his new found fame that he even created his own site on August 9, and its purpose is "to show the world how unfit Hillary Clinton is for office".
Sometimes I wonder if what makes her unfit is the fact that she is a woman. :)
hmm, am I dreaming ? :D
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I guess i am the only one who finds this mans actions strange and unusual? He seems to be signaling someone in the crowd, also the Woman behind Hillary did an odd hand thing too.
(https://s20.postimg.io/zfp8z4cz1/Hillary_weird_1.jpg)
Quote from: funbox on September 13, 2016, 10:02:09 PM
hmm, am I dreaming ? :D
Reading what you write makes me think that's your normal state. :)
Quote from: ArMaP on September 13, 2016, 10:13:20 PM
Reading what you write makes me think that's your normal state. :)
interestingly timed one might say :D
*The swish of air, rips the board almost in two*
(http://i.imgur.com/YClZ17g.gif)
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Quote from: Dyna on September 13, 2016, 10:12:33 PM
I guess i am the only one who finds this mans actions strange and unusual? He seems to be signaling someone in the crowd, also the Woman behind Hillary did an odd hand thing too.
(https://s20.postimg.io/zfp8z4cz1/Hillary_weird_1.jpg)
that man looks like he has elvish ears
very strange
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Quote from: funbox on September 13, 2016, 10:39:58 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Pak41ZH.gif)
Shouldn't it be "their" instead of "there"?
Quote from: ArMaP on September 13, 2016, 10:56:50 PM
Shouldn't it be "their" instead of "there"?
are you volunteering as a proof reader ? :D
I've not got time, in creating these cards to appropriate the proper usage of there, their, and they're, :D
*a Portal opens exceptionally quick, depositing a altered state of Cardom*
(http://i.imgur.com/a0QjmHH.gif)
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Quote from: funbox on September 13, 2016, 10:59:34 PM
I've not got time, in creating these cards to appropriate the proper usage of there, their, and they're, :D
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Really? :P
While you all are trying to figure out what is wrong with Hillary...Also try and notice the extent of the cover up...You'll see if she is president, the colossal cover ups she has been in will look quite petty compared to things to come.
Quote from: Ellirium113 on September 13, 2016, 11:06:34 PM
Really? :P
While you all are trying to figure out what is wrong with Hillary...Also try and notice the extent of the cover up...You'll see if she is president, the colossal cover ups she has been in will look quite petty compared to things to come.
*walks away innocuously, quietly whistling*
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QuoteWhile you all are trying to figure out what is wrong with Hillary...
We know. She has had endometriosis and currently has pneumonia. The rest looks like wishful thinking. :)
Like Trump she is also old to be considering starting a job that could last 8 years. Doesn't anyone else find it odd that people past retirement age are applying for a long term vacancy. In most roles you'd have no chance of getting the job if you were that old (Bernie Sanders is 75 as well).
Quote from: Pimander on September 13, 2016, 11:17:05 PM
We know. She has had endometriosis and currently has pneumonia. The rest looks like wishful thinking. :)
Like Trump she is also old to be considering starting a job that could last 8 years. Doesn't anyone else find it odd that people past retirement age are applying for a long term vacancy. In most roles you'd have no chance of getting the job if you were that old (Bernie Sanders is 75 as well).
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I find it all a big distraction, to what will happen, irrespective of ether candidate getting in .. one way or another there's going to be mega upheaval in the us, no doubt a ripple effect all over the world
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Quote from: funbox on September 13, 2016, 11:26:05 PM
I find it all a big distraction,
However, this soul does not exist ab initio, as orthodox Christianity teaches. It has to be brought into existence by a process of guided self-observation. However, this is rarely achieved, owing to man's unique ability to be
distracted from spiritual matters by everyday trivia. (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=9618.msg127145#msg127145)
Quote from: funbox on September 13, 2016, 10:59:34 PM
are you volunteering as a proof reader ? :D
Why not? I'm used to it from when I was proofreader for Project Gutenberg. :)
Quote from: Pimander on September 13, 2016, 11:31:13 PM
However, this soul does not exist ab initio, as orthodox Christianity teaches. It has to be brought into existence by a process of guided self-observation. However, this is rarely achieved, owing to man's unique ability to be distracted from spiritual matters by everyday trivia. (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=9618.msg127145#msg127145)
in a quasi existence, all rules are eventually transgressed, spirals go infinitely onwards, but are never quite the same
unlike hats of course :D
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Quote from: ArMaP on September 13, 2016, 11:37:50 PM
Why not? I'm used to it from when I was proofreader for Project Gutenberg. :)
project Gutenberg ?
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Quote from: funbox on September 13, 2016, 10:47:59 PM
that man looks like he has elvish ears
very strange
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Maybe the post is artificial and energizes these guys!
Really it all looks prehershed (is that a word?).
The Woman used the post to turn her ring and puts the pin in Hillary, then the guy makes a wish on the pillar while doing a weird zombie start toward someone/thing.All expressionless! No one seems very interested at all in Hilary.
I am wondering if the Woman were a puppet stand in and later she were declared dead would it save her from prison perhaps, what info may be released in the future.
Quote from: Dyna on September 14, 2016, 12:04:43 AM
Maybe the post is artificial and energizes these guys!
Really it all looks prehershed (is that a word?).
The Woman used the post to turn her ring and puts the pin in Hillary, then the guy makes a wish on the pillar while doing a weird zombie start toward someone/thing.All expressionless! No one seems very interested at all in Hilary.
I am wondering if the Woman were a puppet stand in and later she were declared dead would it save her from prison perhaps, what info may be released in the future.
maybe some of her aides aren't her aides, maybe she's being poisoned by her own protection , but then ifs she dead, its not unknown for there to be a few stunt doubles etc
you'll have to ask ArMaP about the spelling, but I know what you mean, all acted and learnt beforehand :D
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Quote from: funbox on September 13, 2016, 11:44:31 PM
project Gutenberg ?
Yes, Project Gutenberg (https://www.gutenberg.org/).
For some time (maybe one year) I was part of the Distributed Proofreaders (http://www.pgdp.net/c/), volunteers that read the scanned book pages and correct the automatically recognised text. Those texts are then reviewed for formatting and, when considered finished, published.
Quote from: ArMaP on September 14, 2016, 12:33:57 AM
Yes, Project Gutenberg (https://www.gutenberg.org/).
For some time (maybe one year) I was part of the Distributed Proofreaders (http://www.pgdp.net/c/), volunteers that read the scanned book pages and correct the automatically recognised text. Those texts are then reviewed for formatting and, when considered finished, published.
interesting .. did you get free books too ? was this the Portuguese version of the ministry of Truth ?
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or maybe she collapsed in an ironic homage to the buildings that fell, like the thread title suggests, these people do have twisted senses of humour, if its the case
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Quote from: funbox on September 14, 2016, 12:48:58 AM
interesting .. did you get free books too ?
Everybody gets free books, that's the idea behind Project Gutenberg.
Quotewas this the Portuguese version of the ministry of Truth ?
Project Gutenberg is not a Portuguese organisation.
Quote from: ArMaP on September 14, 2016, 01:11:35 AM
Everybody gets free books, that's the idea behind Project Gutenberg.
Project Gutenberg is not a Portuguese organisation.
I couldn't tell. the links you provided were off bounds to me
so which language was you proof reading ?
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Quote from: funbox on September 13, 2016, 11:44:31 PM
project Gutenberg ?
Have you really never heard of Project Gutenberg or are you taking the p1ss?
So now you two reckon the Clinton fainting wasn't pneumonia it was staged?
Quote from: Pimander on September 14, 2016, 01:19:24 AM
Have you really never heard of Project Gutenberg or are you taking the p1ss?
So now you two reckon the Clinton fainting wasn't pneumonia it was staged?
no I hadn't, hence the question
whose the other, im just thinking out loud, I don't ascribe to any particular theory or hypothesis in regards to her physical condition
I am prepared to listen to your's though , as long as its not in video format
ide guess your going to say its Karma, rollling back on her ? :D
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Quote from: funbox on September 14, 2016, 01:14:10 AM
I couldn't tell. the links you provided were off bounds to me
That's strange.
Quoteso which language was you proof reading ?
Portuguese and English. I'm not sure if I ever did any thing in French or Spanish.
Quote from: funbox on September 14, 2016, 01:24:27 AM
I don't ascribe to any particular theory or hypothesis in regards to her physical condition
I am prepared to listen to your's though , as long as its not in video format
ide guess your going to say its Karma, rollling back on her ? :D
I just don't think she has Parkinson's. The idea it might be staged is pretty funny. I'd love to know why they would do that if it really was staged.
Karma? ::)
Quote from: ArMaP on September 14, 2016, 01:32:31 AM
That's strange.
Portuguese and English. I'm not sure if I ever did any thing in French or Spanish.
ah well , memory leekage happens at the best of times
ironically in four hours time im going to have to go back to a space I've not been neon 20 years, should be interesting..
dam, stop not putting down the cards, I was involuntary digressing on your behalf then. :/
(http://i.imgur.com/unuhDPq.gif)
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Quote from: Pimander on September 14, 2016, 01:39:54 AM
I just don't think she has Parkinson's. The idea it might be staged is pretty funny. I'd love to know why they would do that if it really was staged.
Karma? ::)
Parkinsons.. that's a new one.. ,RELEASE PARKINSONS , RELEASE PARKINSONs, *squeaky voice from crowd*er shouldn't that be Jail Parkinsons?
JAIL PARKINSONS , JAIL PARKINSONS !
*crowd roll around as if tasered*
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I prefer the words, cosmic joker, they describe more adequately the unusual things that happen that highlight other things that have happened, like a conduit for learning I guess, sometime ironic sometimes not , but always with that air of co-incidence
im sure you have your own examples of this.
Quote from: funbox on September 14, 2016, 01:48:22 AM
I prefer the words, cosmic joker, they describe more adequately the unusual things that happen that highlight other things that have happened, like a conduit for learning I guess, sometime ironic sometimes not , but always with that air of co-incidence
im sure you have your own examples of this.
If there is reincarnation then Karma would be working out things related to the long term resolution of factors related to that.
The trouble is, we don't know what the Universe is. Each life could literally be like a turn on a computer game. The spiritual world may be real but only exist in the realm of mind. Mind could be just an amazing result of the complexity of the human brain, or mind could be the entire universe (think quantum physics and the experimental result cannot be separated from the observer).
The Universe is incredible and mysterious. We don't have all the answers.
Quote from: Pimander on September 14, 2016, 01:39:54 AM
I just don't think she has Parkinson's. The idea it might be staged is pretty funny. I'd love to know why they would do that if it really was staged.
Karma? ::)
If it were staged I would think it was to draw attention from something really big. In that case we will know in time just as we will know the health status in time. guess we just need to wait.
Quote from: funbox on September 14, 2016, 01:43:07 AM
ironically in four hours time im going to have to go back to a space I've not been neon 20 years, should be interesting..
You haven't been "neon"? Have you been another rare gas? ;)
Quotedam, stop not putting down the cards, I was involuntary digressing on your behalf then. :/
(http://i.imgur.com/unuhDPq.gif)
Why does the text in the ArMaP card look so bad? In all other cards the text is more readable.
Quote from: ArMaP on September 14, 2016, 07:59:28 PM
You haven't been "neon"? Have you been another rare gas? ;)
Why does the text in the ArMaP card look so bad? In all other cards the text is more readable.
near/on pronounced neeon, I wouldn't even know its correct spelling , its pronounced in so many peculiar ways
QuoteWhy does the text in the ArMaP card look so bad? In all other cards the text is more readable.
it has no background that is sometimes white.. that card was the first , but allowing background transparency really messes about with certain types of animation , namely glows , particles, and the sort (gradients)
(http://i.imgur.com/jgTvfWt.gif)
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Quote from: Pimander on September 14, 2016, 12:40:19 PM
If there is reincarnation then Karma would be working out things related to the long term resolution of factors related to that.
you can just imagine the workload eh :D
QuoteThe trouble is, we don't know what the Universe is. Each life could literally be like a turn on a computer game. The spiritual world may be real but only exist in the realm of mind. Mind could be just an amazing result of the complexity of the human brain, or mind could be the entire universe (think quantum physics and the experimental result cannot be separated from the observer).
I wonder what would happen if you replaced the screen in the slit experiment with an unconscious person, in the eyes peeled clockwork orange position.. does the person have to be conscious to collapse the waveform ? how would the light behave, if it was just to regard the new screen as part of the apparatus, albeit a peculiar shaped one ?
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to expand on that a little , lets say non of the experimenters where watching the experiment, how would the light entering through the new screen's unconscious eyes , effect the screen/person/apparatus ?
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Quote from: funbox on September 14, 2016, 09:03:02 PM
to expand on that a little , lets say non of the experimenters where watching the experiment, how would the light entering through the new screen's unconscious eyes , effect the screen/person/apparatus ?
It hasn't been observed yet at that point so has it happened? ;D
Quote from: Pimander on September 14, 2016, 09:26:24 PM
It hasn't been observed yet at that point so has it happened? ;D
lets say at the same instant the light passes through the slit the screen regains consciousness , unwittingly becoming both part and apart of the experience , a potential for some paradoxical self combustion me thinks
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Quote from: funbox on September 14, 2016, 09:03:02 PM
to expand on that a little , lets say non of the experimenters where watching the experiment, how would the light entering through the new screen's unconscious eyes , effect the screen/person/apparatus ?
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Or how close does a researcher have to be for a photon to notice it is being observed? Is standing in the parking lot ok but once you open the door to the lab you are busted?
I knew if I waded into the debate about Hilary's health I could turn the conversation to something profoundly metaphysical. Easy as you like... 8)
Another message from the initial Source (Ex Mi6 Science officer) on the possibilities that may happen in regards to the election....and other affairs.
He still seems to suggest she could have Parkinson's.
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BREAKING NEWS: Hillary's aid has been identified as Dr. Okunola, a specialist in Parkinson's Disease. We pray for her health and wish her well, not her evil campaign, but her personal wellbeing.
Not sure if someone posted this video earlier or it was similar..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XtIzH9HoC8&feature=player_embedded
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"As a stroke certified ER nurse, I feel qualified to make this assertion, and will explain to you exactly what is happening here.
You may be thinking – "what symptoms would lead medical professionals to believe someone may have had or is currently having a stroke?" Well, I personally use the acronym BEFAST, which stands for BALANCE (sudden loss), EYES (change in vision), FACE (facial droop), ARMS (sudden weakness), SPEECH (slurred), and TIME (when was the patient's last known normal).
Anytime someone comes in with even ONE of those symptoms we start thinking possible stroke. Given that Hillary literally passed out (balance problem), and the fact that she's had a reported cerebral blood clot in the past, I'd definitely be thinking possible stroke.
Whenever a patient like this rolls through the doors of the ER we begin asking them a series of questions (if they're alert and oriented) and run a number of tests.
We do this in order to obtain the patient's NIH stroke score (some use the Cincinnati scale), the higher the number the worse the stroke. One of the tests included in that assessment is the bilateral (meaning both sides) grip test. We ask patients "please, squeeze my fingers as hard as you can." We do this to assess grip strength, and we then compare right vs left sided grip strength to determine if unilateral weakness exists, something that's often present in someone having a stroke.
This IS DEFINITELY not an assessment tool used to rule out or diagnose pneumonia.
(https://www.subjectpolitics.com/busted-hillary-caught-undergoing-neurological-tests-yesterdays-medical-episode/)
https://www.subjectpolitics.com/busted-hillary-caught-undergoing-neurological-tests-yesterdays-medical-episode/
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Hilary Clinton MK 1 and MK 2. Biometric analysis of the person who appeared outside her daughter's apartment claiming to be just fine would indicate that this was a 'stunt look alike double'. The hands were different, the chin was different and she was much thinner than Hilary as pictured at the 9/11 memorial, by about 50 lbs. Boy this kid had some great results from 'weight watchers'. America, are you going to put up with this crap? Seriously? Hence the very dark glasses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBHsg8nMYvI
The media industry from survey knows the average TV viewer has an intelligence IQ and awareness of an 11 year old, back in the 70's.
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The latest:-
According to this report, on 18 August the SVR reported that 3 specialized teams of US Secrete Service (SS) agents had "swarmed" a number of top American hospitals for what these intelligence analysts believed was for the purpose of Hillary Clinton needing urgent brain surgery—and was believed to have been scheduled for this weekend after it was reported on 10 September that Hillary Clinton was preparing to disappear from public view for 5 days: "Late yesterday, D.C. Whispers indicated Hillary Clinton's intention to withdraw from public view for the next five days – a report that has been subsequently confirmed via other media outlets."
With yesterday, however, being the 15th anniversary of the 11 September 2001 (9/11) terror attacks upon the US, SVR analysts that Hillary Clinton choose, instead, to attend a New York City ceremony honoring this event prior to her entering the hospital but quickly became a catastrophic health emergency after she was rushed to the street to await her motorcade (who had no advance warning of her coming) leaned against a security bollard, and then buckled towards the ground as her security guards and aides rushed to keep her from collapsing.
This report further notes that on 30 August the SVR had reported on the US media's covering up Hillary Clinton's colostomy bag, and also warning, on 6 September, that she was just months away from a "heart failure event" that could very well claim her life in the next few months.
As the US media has continued to cover up Hillary Clinton's grave health issues, yesterdays actions by them in this massive cover up were "beyond shocking" as they first reported Clinton's personal physician, Dr. Lisa Bardack, saying all was well and she was just overheated, then later saying she had pneumonia—after which she stunningly greeted a girl child on the street coming into physical contact that SVR medical analysts in this report say should never be allowed to happen with someone having such a contagious disease.
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Wow!! Is there a cunning plan in place to try to keep Obama in the White House by postponing the elections? And what is this rumour that Michele Obama (Michael?) may replace her; where is Bernie Sanders in all of this mess? Would they dare to try to put a double on stage against Trump with a cue earpiece in her ear to get the answers? She would have to be quite a cool actress to pull that off.
All these questions and more are serious. In the World of illusion and delusion all things are possible. Why is the USA GIVING $38 Billion worth of military kit to Israel. That is a war budget; to fight whom? May be to try again to create 'Greater Israel' which would include Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Jordan. What madness is this or is it just another lucrative arms deal to keep the USA mills of industry going? What is the fate of the House of Saud? In serious deep do, do financially, borrowing money which they never needed to do before. "Interesting times" as the Chinese would say. So glad to be in Europe, even with half a million Russian troops marching up and down their borders. Remember the old military/political adage, 'You don't have to win, just endure and let the enemy loose'. Oh! by the way while I am being provocative, accurate and funny. If I recall we never actually gave the USA independence; we just could not bother to carry on the fight any more. George III and all that madness. So when the USA crashes and burns, do we claim it back and put in a salvation package. Neat idea, we are good at peace keeping and administration of failed countries. Am I anti-American? Absolutely not. I just don't like to see a great country and a great body of people flushing themselves down the toilet curtesy of a bunch of criminal bankers and corporates who have as much foresight as a blind bat in a cave which is collapsing. Bless!
More to follow. Watch this space. Am Living in someone else's nightmare? No I am watching someone else's nightmare unfolding. Meanwhile the ET forces are back big time, overseeing security and making sure the kindergarten doesn't burn down. A battle for hearts and minds going on up there as well. As above so below I believe.
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The smart money left the USA years ago. Any which way the US is in trouble. By Spring of 2017 I predict you will see rioting on the streets, food shortages, fuel shortages, heavy handed local security. Well, moving? Depends what funds you have and paperwork. The US associated territories don't need much, just a local US tax qualification. Outside that you may need permits. English speaking is good. Consider the Southern hemisphere, but check the regulations. Do you have relatives anywhere? UK is good and safe, but you need to comply with UK and current Eu regs if you are going to more than a tourists. You could marry someone - Ha ! Ha ! or get a job if qualified which would give you a work permit for at least two years, or go to somewhere and buy a boat, put under a flag of convenience or even the US flag. There are many options, but ANYWHERE is going to be better than the USA I think. And if money gets tight they may slam the door and stop you moving funds. Some money needs to escape ASAP, that is good advice to all you folk in the US. Spread it around. Any bank can go bust now even the big ones. Buy British Britania 1oz Gold coins, no CGT or VAT. The US Petro Dollar is going to tank and Gold rocket to over 2000 per oz I think you will see. This is measured advice. Sniff the wind, take council, do research, be carful of silver bullet money schemes and sharks. The hungry ape is a dangerous animal
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Did you know that Oklahoma was just hit by the largest earthquake ever recorded in the history of the state? And did you know that Oklahoma absolutely shattered their yearly record for earthquakes in 2015 and may break it again this year?
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According to the USGS, the number of significant earthquakes in the eastern and central sections of the nation has more than quintupled in recent years, and concern is growing that we could soon see a "megaquake" in the middle part of the country. Of course no discussion of megaquakes in the middle part of the country can leave out the New Madrid fault zone, which is approximately six times larger than the San Andreas fault zone in California. Scientists assure us that the New Madrid fault is around 30 years overdue for a major seismic event, and when it does happen it is going to be the biggest disaster in modern American history up to this point. Late last month, eight states took part in a major drill that simulated what the damage from a New Madrid earthquake might look like.
No worries she'll power through it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E96lAHygeIU
Quote from: astr0144 on September 15, 2016, 01:38:49 AM
The media industry from survey knows the average TV viewer has an intelligence IQ and awareness of an 11 year old, back in the 70's.
Remember this back in 2009 anyone? Yes, we have been here before. ::)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqLcqTGV7ds
I don't know how common body doubles are for politicians but they are not unheard of. She might really have a body double. She also might have taken a shower and brushed her hair. :)
So far the only definite lie I have spotted is that it was reported that a CT scan showed she had a non-infectious type of pneumonia. It is not possible to determine whether bacterial pneumonia is infectious from a CT scan. That means if she was diagnosed with pneumonia she was putting anyone who came into contact with her at a small risk of infection, especially if she coughed.
Quote from: Pimander on September 14, 2016, 11:21:01 PM
I knew if I waded into the debate about Hilary's health I could turn the conversation to something profoundly metaphysical. Easy as you like... 8)
have you had a good trot of rolling 6's ? :D
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Quote from: astr0144 on September 15, 2016, 01:38:49 AM
Wow!! Is there a cunning plan in place to try to keep Obama in the White House by postponing the elections?
From what I have read about US elections laws and rules, that doesn't happen.
First, only congress has the power to postponing federal elections, not the president, and then only if something like a natural disaster happens.
If one candidate abandons or becomes incapacitated before the election then his/her party chooses a different person.
If the same thing happens after the election but before the elected electors vote on the candidates, the same thing may happen, the party may choose another person. But, even if they do not, the electors can vote on whoever they decide, so, theoretically, even Robomont can be the new president. ;)
If the elected president is incapable of taking office then the vice president becomes the new president.
PS: I may have misunderstood some parts, but the general idea is there. :)
Quote from: funbox on September 15, 2016, 10:57:56 AM
have you had a good trot of rolling 6's ? :D
I prefer 2x10 sided dice games. You can roll percentiles then which give you more flexibility with potential outcomes. :)
I used to love GURPS and similar games.
http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/
I think it was started by Steve Jackson who I rate!
Quote from: ArMaP on September 15, 2016, 02:00:18 PM
If one candidate abandons or becomes incapacitated before the election then his/her party chooses a different person.
Hopefully Bernie Sanders. :D
I bet you're an expert on US politics now. That's about 80% of the threads on ATS these days isn't it?
Supposedly Hillary today fine...not sure how these can both be today.
https://youtu.be/NvRbpACD0Q4
https://youtu.be/8oimjUWpWlU
NvRbpACD0Q4
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Hillary Clinton resumes campaigning today with a stop in Greensboro, North Carolina. She's also scheduled to speak to a Hispanic group in Washington. Those are her first public appearance since Sunday, when she abruptly left a 9/11 memorial service in New York after becoming dizzy and dehydrated. Her campaign later revealed that Clinton had been diagnosed with pneumonia, and her doctor advised her to take a few days off to rest.
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Quote from: Pimander on September 15, 2016, 05:32:33 PM
I prefer 2x10 sided dice games. You can roll percentiles then which give you more flexibility with potential outcomes. :)
I used to love GURPS and similar games.
http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/
I think it was started by Steve Jackson who I rate!
dunno about gurps ,sounds like something done on the toilet whilst whistling.. did have a knock at Larp the one weekend though, funny , especially the costumes..
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Quote from: Dyna on September 15, 2016, 07:27:02 PM
Supposedly Hillary today fine...
https://youtu.be/NvRbpACD0Q4
NvRbpACD0Q4
mucho make up looks to be doing the job of covering the Zombification :D
ill keep my eye out for tell tale twitches :D
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Quote from: Pimander on September 15, 2016, 05:34:45 PM
That's about 80% of the threads on ATS these days isn't it?
Something like that, and I avoid them all. ;D
Quote from: ArMaP on September 15, 2016, 07:56:41 PM
Something like that, and I avoid them all. ;D
The only one I looked at was about health because at least I know about it. There seems to be a lot of talking and no listening. Nobody actually responds to fair points so I'll be doing the same thing from now on.
I thought UK politics was bad. ::)
Pimander,
Good point on her scan, and the pneumonia were
well stated, and spot on.
:)
"non contagious baterial pneumonia" ....
fictional description....there is no test to determine
if the pneumonia is contagious.
Medical Expert says her medical report is bogus:
http://www.trump-conservative.com/news/dr-milton-wolf-obamas-cousin-catches-lie-in-hillary-clinton-medical-report/
I don't entirely agree with Wolf. There are types of lung infection that you can have that are not caught from other people. An example would be if you had a pathogenic bacteria in your mouth which moved onto the lung. Non-contagious can refer to not easily passed from person to person.
What seems to have been overlooked is that a CT scan cannot tell you what the pathogen is. The scan can show that there is an infection of the alvioli (as opposed to the bronchial passages which would be bronchitis). If the scan can't identify the pathogen then it remains unknown whether it is contagious (i.e. a bacteria that is easily transmitted to others through coughing).
(http://kidshealth.org/EN/images/illustrations/lungsDiagram-260x252-rd1-enIL.gif)
Pneumonia is deeper within the lung than bronchitis where the phlegm is thicker and less likely to be "coughed up". This means bronchitis is more likely to be contagious than pneumonia.
Quote from: Pimander on September 16, 2016, 01:25:44 AM
There are types of lung infection that you can have that are not caught from other people. An example would be if you had a pathogenic bacteria in your mouth which moved onto the lung.
Right, or someone who had aspirated, etc.
Hillary and Co supposedly half her staff has the same
thing, which would indicate "contagious".
QuoteWhat seems to have been overlooked is that a CT scan cannot tell you what the pathogen is. The scan can show that there is an infection of the alvioli (as opposed to the bronchial passages which would be bronchitis). If the scan can't identify the pathogen then it
Good points Pim....