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The Living Moon => Anomalies on Mars => Topic started by: Eighthman on October 05, 2016, 06:17:31 PM

Title: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: Eighthman on October 05, 2016, 06:17:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_JvUpIflzk&feature=player_embedded

Maybe somekinda interplay of light and shadow.  I dunno.
Title: Re: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: Pimander on October 05, 2016, 06:23:51 PM
http://www.midnightplanets.com/web/MSL/image/01144/1144ML0051850400501527E01_DXXX.html

(http://www.midnightplanets.com/data/MSLRawJPG/01144/1144ML0051850400501527E01_DXXX.JPG)
Title: Re: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: Pimander on October 05, 2016, 06:26:44 PM
It might be a compression artefact.
Title: Re: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: Dyna on October 05, 2016, 06:38:52 PM
Interesting, to bad FunBox is banned would love to hear what he has to say about it. :(
Title: Re: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: Pimander on October 05, 2016, 06:42:04 PM
Quote from: Dyna on October 05, 2016, 06:38:52 PM
Interesting, to bad FunBox is banned would love to hear what he has to say about it. :(
See if you can find a site where he isn't banned and post it there.  You might be searching for some time though. ::)
Title: Re: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: Dyna on October 05, 2016, 06:53:54 PM
Quote from: Pimander on October 05, 2016, 06:42:04 PM
See if you can find a site where he isn't banned and post it there.  You might be searching for some time though. ::)
Same with many others here. Banned for saying what we think. Guess we all need to learn to shut it.
Unless your someone like maybe matrix traveler or many others that actually shocked me with some of their behaviors can say what you please. Favorites every website.
Disappointed...Goodbye
Kindness counts  ::)
Title: Re: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: ArMaP on October 05, 2016, 07:09:46 PM
This is what it looks like in the video.

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r66/armap/1144ML0051850400501527E01_DXXX%202.png)

This is what it looks like when zooming in on the original image.

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r66/armap/1144ML0051850400501527E01_DXXX%201.png)

Too much JPEG artefacts, it's hard to say what it may be.


Edited to add the less compressed version available on the Analyst's Notebook (https://an.rsl.wustl.edu/msl/mslbrowser/br2.aspx?tab=solsumm), resized to 500% like the previous image.
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r66/armap/1144ML0051850400501527E01_DRCL%202.png)
Title: Re: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: Pimander on October 05, 2016, 07:55:28 PM
Quote from: Dyna on October 05, 2016, 06:53:54 PM
Same with many others here. Banned for saying what we think. Guess we all need to learn to shut it.
You can say what you think.  Just don't be rude or abusive and allow a reasonable discussion to take place.  There is not freedom just to post anything, there are rules.  If you don't like them that is fine, it isn't your site.
Title: Re: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: rdunk on October 06, 2016, 04:33:32 AM
The high resolution image from the standard mars.jpl.nasa.gov site, with partial zooming, Sol 1144.

This is a weird looking obviously anomalous feature here on the side of Mars hill, either photo generated or............!  :o

Link to standard image: http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/?rawid=1144ML0051850400501527E01_DXXX&s=1144

(https://s9.postimg.org/48ca72kwf/Screen_Shot_2016_10_05_at_10_23_50_PM.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: Pimander on October 06, 2016, 08:06:22 AM
Don't forget, that is the jpg which has been compressed. :)
Title: Re: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: ArMaP on October 06, 2016, 01:58:23 PM
Quote from: Pimander on October 06, 2016, 08:06:22 AM
Don't forget, that is the jpg which has been compressed. :)
That's the problem with photos from Curiosity, even the original photos use JPEG compression, although not as high as the photos published on the MSL site.

That's the result of people wanting colour photos, they got them, but they are worse than the greyscale photos.
Title: Re: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: Eighthman on October 06, 2016, 02:47:05 PM
The interplay of shadow and light (if that's what it supposedly is) doesn't look right.  The lit area seems to be at the wrong angle compared to the surrounding shadows.
Title: Re: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: rdunk on October 06, 2016, 06:02:37 PM
Whatever it is it just doesn't look right to me - doesn't look like it belongs in the photo.

If this feature were added purposely........why?? Well of course, it is just a "lens flare"!! :)
Title: Re: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: ArMaP on October 07, 2016, 12:28:05 AM
I think I found another photo that shows that area, but it doesn't help much.

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r66/armap/NRB_495768520EDR_F0500250NCAM07753M_.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: The Seeker on January 13, 2017, 02:35:05 AM
Just wanted to bump this and keep the discussion going... that is indeed an interesting photo; and I agree, it really does seem out of place yet it definitely resembles a humanoid type figure possibly in uniform... I need some type of program that will allow me to actually zoom in on these photos...

suggestions?

Seeker
Title: Re: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: rdunk on January 13, 2017, 04:52:12 AM
Seeker, can you take a screenshot, and then zoom/magnify the screenshot?? That is one of the ways I additionally mag a pic sometimes.
Title: Re: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: The Seeker on January 13, 2017, 07:44:29 PM
Quote from: rdunk on January 13, 2017, 04:52:12 AM
Seeker, can you take a screenshot, and then zoom/magnify the screenshot?? That is one of the ways I additionally mag a pic sometimes.
For some reason this stupid HP computer (with windows 10) won't let me do a screen capture  :o

Seeker
Title: Re: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: ArMaP on January 13, 2017, 09:01:27 PM
Quote from: the seeker on January 13, 2017, 02:35:05 AM
I need some type of program that will allow me to actually zoom in on these photos...

suggestions?
I use mostly Gimp (https://www.gimp.org/) for my image processing needs. It's free. :)
Title: Re: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: ArMaP on January 13, 2017, 09:03:16 PM
Quote from: the seeker on January 13, 2017, 07:44:29 PM
For some reason this stupid HP computer (with windows 10) won't let me do a screen capture  :o
Is it a laptop? If it is try to press the "Fn" key at the same time you press the "PrtSc" key.
Title: Re: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: rdunk on January 13, 2017, 09:36:53 PM
Quote from: the seeker on January 13, 2017, 07:44:29 PM
For some reason this stupid HP computer (with windows 10) won't let me do a screen capture  :o

Seeker

Making a screenshot is a great feature on my Apple IMAC - It is just simply hit command/shift/4 together, and then with the mouse put a border around the desired photo area and click-it!!

Maybe it is the HP computer, but..........one of these might work for you!  ;) ;) ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giWGpjTlaNU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giWGpjTlaNU)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbeMXKaMhI4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbeMXKaMhI4)

http://www.howtogeek.com/226280/how-to-take-screenshots-in-windows-10/

http://www.howto-connect.com/windows-10-take-screenshots-using-default-tools/

http://www.wikihow.com/Screenshot-in-Windows-10
Title: Re: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: The Seeker on January 13, 2017, 10:49:35 PM
Thanks,rdunk, I watched the vid and have it now...

@Armap-going to download Gimp and try it out...

Seeker
Title: Re: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on January 14, 2017, 01:31:37 AM
Gimp is ok but I don't care for the GUI.
I like Zoner better but to each his own.
Title: Re: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: The Seeker on January 14, 2017, 01:47:39 AM
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on January 14, 2017, 01:31:37 AM
Gimp is ok but I don't care for the GUI.
I like Zoner better but to each his own.
Ok Sarge, help me out; what is GUI and what is Zoner?
Title: Re: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on January 14, 2017, 03:44:44 AM
GUI graphicical user interface.
Zoner Studio is a cross between a graphic editor and a graphic browser.
Title: Re: Interesting Mars Photo
Post by: Pimander on February 02, 2017, 12:17:20 AM
Quote from: the seeker on January 13, 2017, 02:35:05 AM
I need some type of program that will allow me to actually zoom in on these photos...

suggestions?
GIMP will allow you to zoom in and is a free program.  It basically does what Photoshop does but looks less polished.

Beware of endless zooming in the hope of seeing more.  Once you can see each pixel (strictly speaking bit of data) zooming further doesn't show more detail it just visually increases the size of a single "dot" from the original image.  So oce you zoom beyond a certain point lots of pixels on your lovely high resolution monitor are actually representing only one "pixel" from the original image and therefore you are not seeing more detail.

JPEGs lose data because the compression algorithm used to save the image disregards far too much image information that cannot be reconstructed during decompression.  So when the image is decompressed missing data has to be put into the image.  This effects the quality and can produce artefacts that were not in the original image.

This might help: http://www.exposureguide.com/image-file-formats.htm