Did UFO Hackers Target Podesta For "X-Files"?
Similar suggestions to the Lone Gun Men Hackers from the "X-Files "....rather than the Russians.
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http://www.infowars.com/report-ufo-hunters-not-russians-hacked-podesta/
18 Oct 2016
The news media and the Hillary Clinton campaign are trying to tie the hacked computer files being disseminated by WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to the government of Russia. But was John Podesta actually targeted for what he knows about Extra Terrestrials?
Popularly known as the "X-Files," the main quest of computer hackers for the "holy grail" of U.S. government data files was dramatized by a television series bearing the same name from 1993 to 2002.
Podesta was and remains a fan of the TV show and ET full disclosure in general.
Podesta has pushed for "full disclosure" of government UFO files as the chief of staff for Presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama and as Mrs. Clinton's campaign manager.
Hillary Clinton is blaming the wrong party for the computer hacking. It's not the Russians but the ET hunters who are to blame.
http://www.infowars.com/report-ufo-hu...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfDWnbClLh4
QuoteThe news media and the Hillary Clinton campaign are trying to tie the hacked computer files being disseminated by WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to the government of Russia.
Moreover, the U.S. Intelligence Community, led by the clueless Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and the virulently anti-Russian Central Intelligence Agency director John Brennan, is claiming their "intelligence" points to Russian hackers being behind the penetration of the computers of the Democratic Party, the Clinton campaign, and the commercial emails of Clinton campaign advisers John Podesta, Jennifer Palmieri, and others.
These charges are a campaign canard intended to further strain relations with Moscow, especially after Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump called for closer U.S.-Russian relations.
Assange still has contacts with his old global computer hacker network, many of whom were affiliated with the Hamburg-based Chaos Computer Club. Assange, a convicted Australian computer hacker, is more than capable of overseeing a network devoted to prying open the email of individuals processed by both government and private networks.
While the Clinton campaign and The Washington Post are trying to link WikiLeaks to Russian intelligence, conveniently being forgotten is the following Op-ed written on February 24, 2007 in the aforementioned newspaper by Cass Sunstein, who would be later named as President Obama's "information czar."
Sunstein, who is married to Samantha Power, the ardently anti-Russian U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, wrote: "Wikileaks.org, founded by dissidents in China and other nations, plans to post secret government documents and to protect them from censorship with coded software . . . the track record of the new collaborations suggests that they have immense potential."
Assange once had a reputation as a notorious hacker.
Using the handle "Mendax," Assange formed a hacker group called "International Subversives."
The group was responsible for a number of well-publicized hacks, including penetration of systems at the Pentagon, NASA, Xerox, and SRI International in Palo Alto, California.
"Mendax" and two other hackers, "Trax" and "Prime Suspect," linked up with one of the most notorious Australian hacker groups, "3 Oz – Melbourne." The "3 Oz" group was was nested in Melbourne's Jewish community and its chief hacker, "Phoenix," was from a hard core pro-Israeli family.
In 1996, Assange pleaded guilty to 25 charges of hacking and related crimes. He received a sweetheart deal in which 6 other counts were dropped, he paid an A$2100 fine, and agreed to work with the Victoria Police Child Exploitation Unit, and, as WMR previously reported, the anti-hacking software development unit of the U.S. Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA) at Sandia National Laboratory in New Mexico.
Assange and his fellow "cypherpunks," including the Chaos Computer Club, had carried out a number of high-visibility hacks during the early 1990s.
One of Chaos's principals, a man code-named "Pengo," aka Hans Heinrich Hübner, was selling data, including that retrieved from NATO systems, to the Soviet KGB.
However, a U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency source told this editor many years ago that the KGB never trusted Pengo because they realized he was a mercenary, willing to sell to the highest bidder.
Pengo and his accomplice, "Hagbard," aka Karl Koch, later surrendered to the West German police but Koch was subsequently found dead in March 1989 in a German forest near Celle, his corpse partially burned with gasoline. Koch's death was ruled a suicide.
One Chaos member later enjoyed respectability. Andy Mueller-Maguhn, the press spokesman for Chaos, became the at-large director for the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN).
The Obama administration recently relinquished all U.S. government control of Internet domain registration and naming conventions to ICANN.
Russian intelligence has no more reason to trust Assange and his accomplices now than their predecessor, the KGB, had in trusting Assange and Chaos in the early 1990s.
As for Clinton campaign manager Podesta ascribing to nefarious Russian agents what can be more easily explained by poor password security used by him and his fellow campaign staffers' reliance on commercial email systems like Gmail and Hotmail, Podesta should know better.
Podesta was once the chief lobbyist for the Electronic Messaging Association (EMA), a pre-World Wide Web (WWW) industry association of the 1980s and early-to-mid 1990s, which represented the interests of such companies as Prodigy, Compuserve, Lotus, Netscape, and America On-Line.
Podesta, therefore, was an early follower of the exploits of hacker groups like the Chaos Computer Club, International Subversives, 3 Oz-Melbourne, and others.
It was from this pre-WWW era that Podesta first gained a real interest in such subjects as Area 51, extraterrestrial artifacts and bodies stored at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, and UFO close encounters.
The main reason for Podesta's interest was the overwhelming desire of the early computer hackers to gain access to what they believed were U.S. government computer files held on ETs and UFOs and that were stored in various military and civilian government computer systems.
In 2002, Podesta supported a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit brought by the Coalition for Freedom of Information that requested all government files concerning a 1965 UFO crash landing Kecksburg, Pennsylvania.
Clinton campaign manager John Podesta knows that Russian intelligence would never be so foolish to leave their fingerprints on computer hacking audit trails. However, independent hackers are more likely to be fishing for anything that they can get involving ETs and Area 51. The hacking of Democratic computers and email is not because of Russian President Vladimir Putin but of "ET."
Popularly known as the "X-Files," the main quest of computer hackers for the "holy grail" of U.S. government data files was dramatized by a television series bearing the same name from 1993 to 2002.
Podesta was and remains a fan of the TV show and ET full disclosure in general.
Podesta has pushed for "full disclosure" of government UFO files as the chief of staff for Presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama and as Mrs. Clinton's campaign manager.
Of course, none of Podesta's past experiences with the email industry, the Internet, or computer hackers have involved Russian agents, with the minor exception of Chaos's somewhat aborted dalliance with the KGB.
One is more likely to find a "gray alien" or a "Man in Black" in Podesta's threat universe than Russian FSB or SVR spies.
Hillary Clinton is blaming the wrong party for the computer hacking. It's not the Russians but the ET hunters who are to blame.
And there are strong telltale signs that the hackers who penetrated Podesta's emails were primarily interested in the Clinton campaign manager's knowledge of ETs. The hackers hit pay dirt with their discovery of the following two emails sent to Podesta in 2015 from the late astronaut Edgar Mitchell:
Subject: email for John Podesta (c/o Eryn) from Edgar Mitchel [sic] re meeting ASAP
Dear John,
As 2015 unfolds, I understand you are leaving the Administration in February.
It is urgent that we agree on a date and time to meet to discuss Disclosure and Zero Point Energy, at your earliest available after your departure.
My Catholic colleague Terri Mansfield will be there too, to bring us up to date on the Vatican's awareness of ETI [extraterrestrial intelligence].
Another colleague is working on a new Space Treaty, citing involvement with Russia and China. However with Russia's extreme interference in Ukraine, I believe we must pursue another route for peace in space and ZPE on Earth.
I met with President Obama's Honolulu childhood friend, US Ambassador Pamela Hamamoto on July 4 at the US Mission in Geneva, when I was able to tell her briefly about zero point energy.
I believe we can enlist her as a confidante and resource in our presentation for President Obama.
I appreciate Eryn's assistance in working with Terri to set up our meeting.
Best regards,
Edgar D. Mitchell, ScD
Chief Science Officer & Founder, Quantrek
Apollo 14 astronaut
6th man to walk on the Moon
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Subject: email for John Podesta c/o Eryn re Space Treaty (attached)
Dear John,
Because the War in Space race is heating up, I felt you should be aware of several factors as you and I schedule our Skype talk.
Remember, our nonviolent ETI from the contiguous universe are helping us bring zero point energy to Earth. They will not tolerate any forms of military violence on Earth or in space.
The following information in italics was shared with me by my colleague Carol Rosin, who worked closely for several years with Wernher von Braun before his death.
Carol and I have worked on the Treaty on the Prevention of the Placement of Weapons in Outer Space, attached for your convenience.
Best regards,
Edgar
Edgar D. Mitchell, ScD
Chief Science Officer & Founder, Quantrek
Apollo 14 astronaut
6th man to walk on the Moon
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The X Files-searching hackers hit additional pay dirt when they discovered two emails sent to Podesta from musician Tom DeLonge. Both concerned UFOs:
From:t.delonge@me.com To: john.podesta@gmail.com Date: 2015-10-26 23:13 Subject: Important things-
Hi John- Tom DeLonge here, The one who interviewed you for that special documentary not to long ago. Things are moving with the project. The Novels, Films and NonFiction works are blooming and finishing. Just had a preliminary meeting with Spielberg's Chief Operating Officer at DreamWorks. More meetings are now on the books- I would like to bring two very "important" people out to meet you in DC. I think you will find them very interesting, as they were principal leadership relating to our sensitive topic. Both were in charge of most fragile divisions, as it relates to Classified Science and DOD topics. Other words, these are A-Level officials. Worth our time, and as well the investment to bring all the way out to you. I just need 2 hours from you. Just looking to have a casual, and private conversation in person. –Here are some photos from the material I am using as I meet with Studio Partners. Best, Tom DeLonge TOM DELONGE | FOUNDER TOM@TOTHESTARSINC.COM | (760) 518-7801 | TO THE STARS MEDIA SAN DIEGO | 1053 S Coast Hwy 101 Encinitas, CA 92024
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From:t.delonge@me.com To: john.podesta@gmail.com Date: 2016-01-25 16:04 Subject: General McCasland
He mentioned he's a "skeptic", he's not. I've been working with him for four months. I just got done giving him a four hour presentation on the entire project a few weeks ago. Trust me, the advice is already been happening on how to do all this. He just has to say that out loud, but he is very, very aware- as he was in charge of all of the stuff. When Roswell crashed, they shipped it to the laboratory at Wright Patterson Air Force Base. General McCasland was in charge of that exact laboratory up to a couple years ago. He not only knows what I'm trying to achieve, he helped assemble my advisory team. He's a very important man. Best, Tom DeLonge TOM DELONGE | FOUNDER TOM@TOTHESTARSINC.COM | (760) 518-7801 | TO THE STARS MEDIA SAN DIEGO | 1053 S Coast Hwy 101 Encinitas, CA 92024
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Podesta is a magnet for the successors to Assange's old Cypherpunk colleagues — young hackers who will do just about anything to expose what they see as a massive cover-up of the ET presence on Earth. The largest hacking of military computers was carried out by a young Scottish hacker named Gary McKinnon. Using the handle "Solo," McKinnon was charged with breaking into
97 U.S. military and NASA systems between February 2001 and March 2002. McKinnon said he was searching for files on the suppression of free energy systems (what astronaut Mitchell wanted to discuss with Podesta) and UFOs. The United States tried to have McKinnon extradited to the United States but in 2012, British Home Secretary Theresa May, now the prime minister, surprisingly vacated the extradition order. British criminal charges against McKinnon were suddenly dropped. Among those who supported McKinnon in resisting extradition to the United States were Boris Johnson, the present Foreign Secretary, and David Cameron, the former prime minister.
Hillary Clinton attracted more hacker attention when she told the Conway Daily Sun in New Hampshire that as president she would "get to the bottom" of the UFO cover-up. That served as another magnet for the global hacker community.
In a 2005 speech in Hong Kong, Bill Clinton told the audience, "I did attempt to find out if there were any secret government documents that reveal things, and if there were, they were concealed from me, too. I wouldn't be the first president that underlings have lied to or that career bureaucrats have waited out. But there may be some career person sitting around somewhere hiding these dark secrets, even from elected presidents. But, if so, they successfully eluded me, and I'm almost embarrassed to tell you I did try to find out."
Asked by the New Hampshire newspaper what her husband meant, Mrs. Clinton replied, "I think we may have been [visited already]. We don't know for sure." In 2014, Bill Clinton told television host Jimmy Kimmel: "If we were visited [by aliens] someday, I wouldn't be surprised. I just hope that it's not like [the movie] Independence Day, that it's a conflict."
The corporate media isn trying to lay blame for the hacking of Podesta's and other Clinton campaign officials' email on Russian President Vladimir Putin. That is because the Democrats do not want to be embarrassed by admitting that the real culprits are hackers who want to know more about Podesta's knowledge of the "little gray aliens." It is the fault of Podesta and Mr. and Mrs. Clinton that they have attracted every computer hacker and script kiddie on the planet hungry for any morsel held in government and private computers about ET.
My interpretation is the opposite.
a} I am not inclined to view Julian Assange as a truly neutral or non-state-controlled source. He apparently spent part of his childhood in an Australian cult that were connected with Australian intelligence, for the purpose of creating controllable individuals.
http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-724-wiki-of-the-damned/
There is also the simple fact that he has lived so long. The American intelligence community consists of some of the most thoroughly evil, ruthless people in existence. No one who they do not want to continue breathing, does so; yet Assange has, even after he has supposedly spat in their face and antagonised them for years. I do not believe it, either in his case or Snowden's. The NSA and CIA are both more competent than that. If they wanted those two dead, then they would be. They kill people for much less all the time. Assange and Snowden are both Goldsteins.
b} Leading on from my first point, I largely view Wikileaks as disinformation. If you look, you will notice that very little real impact has been made by any of the information that they have released, and generally speaking it is the sort of mundane, day to day stuff that you'd expect courtiers and beaurecratic henchbeings to fire back and forth at each other. It's boring.
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(The image is of Grima Wormtongue, the lackey of Saruman from The Lord of the Rings, in case you missed the reference)
It might demonstrate the fact that said drones and their masters are thoroughly slimy and psychopathic, yes; but that wasn't really anything that I for one didn't know. To my knowledge, Wikileaks has never released anything genuinely game-changing or explosive.
c} Given that I think Wikileaks is generally disinfo, I think mention was specifically made of UFOs within the Podesta emails, in order to make said emails more attractive to UFO people. I saw mention of UFOs and the phrase free energy both in a single email. There are a couple of reasons why I have problems with that.
c1} To my knowledge at least, realistically speaking, none of the people supposedly discussing UFOs in these emails, would have close to a high enough security clearance to know anything. These people might work in government, yes, and they might be well connected in some ways; but they're civilians. If there is one thing that virtually all of the material that has ever been written about UFOs has been very consistent on, it is the idea that material related to UFOs is usually under the highest security clearance in existence; I've heard thirty levels above top secret, before. Normal civilians, even ones working for the government, do NOT have that kind of clearance.
c2} I've seen what was at least claimed to be leaked or declassified material about UFOs many times before. These emails are not consistent with the usual style. Military people use abbreviations, code, and slang everywhere, and they also tend to write as much as possible in lower case. When capital letters are used, normally entire words will be capitalised, not just the first letter. The style in which these subjects are mentioned in these emails, however, is completely the opposite. It's very formal, nothing is abbreviated, and the first letters of subject names are capitalised. We see Free Energy instead of free energy, for instance.
Wikileaks just doesn't fit, for me. It just doesn't feel right, and it never has. I'm inclined to view it either as a diversion, or as a means of convincing other people who might try and do something genuinely damaging, to not bother because supposedly something is already being done. One of the most effective tactics that spooks tend to use, is that if they know a particular kind of group or movement is going to form anyway, to make sure that said group forms under their control and on their terms. I think that's what Wikileaks is.
It's also a very old tactic to create multiple sets of lies, for consumption by multiple groups. So you have the election or whatever for the mainstream demographic, but then there is something like Wikileaks to occupy the minds of conspiracy theorists. If you look at /r/conspiracy at the moment, you'll notice that most of the traffic there is uncritical worship of Assange, to exactly the same degree that you will see such worship of the two political candidates anywhere else. Whenever I see a large group of people develop an intense, uncritical, positive emotional bias towards anything, that alone is generally enough to cause me to distrust the thing in question on principle, because I know how stupid most people are.
I think you make some very good points Petrus4..and may well be right !...
The longer I live and look into this stuff, the more variations on how one considers things can often see opposing or other views.
I have to agree about what you say about How ruthless that US Intelligence services could be and that they could probably have seen off anyone who they have such issues or concerns about.
This could also relate to Hilary and her suggestion to look into the UFO files as the 3rd and final Clinton V Trump discussion meeting Tomorrow before Nov 8th US Election.
Why would hacking Podesta get the "X-Files". Podesta is the one campaigning for them to be released so he obviously doesn't have access to them. ::)
Quote from: Pimander on October 18, 2016, 04:51:14 PM
Why would hacking Podesta get the "X-Files". Podesta is the one campaigning for them to be released so he obviously doesn't have access to them. ::)
Podesta has pushed for "full disclosure" of government UFO files as the chief of staff for Presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama and as Mrs. Clinton's campaign manager.
Okay so IF podesta is trying to get them released and he is working for the Clintons... that means that he knows nothing and the Clintons know nothing so voting for the Wicked witch will yeild NOTHING :P
Am I the only one here who can see this obvious fact?
:o
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Quote from: zorgon on October 18, 2016, 09:57:28 PM
Am I the only one here who can see this obvious fact?
Nope, but my vote does not count :P
But there is an even greater obvious fact...
From an outsider's view of your country election, its crystal clear to me she is set(from start to finish) to be your new queen.
Ps. Its funny how all the MSM in my country is against DT.
Quote from: RUSSO on October 18, 2016, 10:57:34 PM
From an outsider's view of your country election, its crystal clear to me she is set(from start to finish) to be your new queen.
I agree unless some miracle happens... She was promised the throne in 2008 when she was told to step down to support Obama at that Bilderberg meeting June 6th 2008.
But they didn't count on Trump. Even the conservatives considered him just a joke candidate.
If she is set up as queen it will be an interesting few years. It is obvious by that big black guy holding her up that she is not medically fit to run the country but they need her alive to take the office.
Quote from: RUSSO on October 18, 2016, 10:57:34 PM
Nope, but my vote does not count :P
Your vote counts as much as mine :P
Quote from: zorgon on October 18, 2016, 11:06:55 PM
If she is set up as queen it will be an interesting few years. It is obvious by that big black guy holding her up that she is not medically fit to run the country but they need her alive to take the office.
Interisting or dangerous?
I always tought a nuclear war would never happen cause the nature of it. I mean why the elite would ruin their playground? But im starting to change my mind on this one. There are people in this world that ARE willing to risk everything pushing that button to make their point.
Those high teck underground bunkers must to be awesome right? ::)
Quote from: zorgon on October 18, 2016, 11:06:55 PM
I agree unless some miracle happens... She was promised the throne in 2008 when she was told to step down to support Obama at that Bilderberg meeting June 6th 2008.
I will confess that I always find it hilarious when Americans compare the presidency with a monarchy. The reason being, of course, that historical monarchs tended to have actual power.
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Quote from: zorgon on October 18, 2016, 09:57:28 PM
Okay so IF podesta is trying to get them released and he is working for the Clintons... that means that he knows nothing and the Clintons know nothing so voting for the Wicked witch will yeild NOTHING :P
Am I the only one here who can see this obvious fact?
The wikileaks emails are to DISCREDIT the Democrats not help them. Am I the only one here who can see this obvious fact? LOL :P
"The Ecuador government respects the principle of non-intervention in other countries' affairs, it does not meddle in election processes underway, nor does it support any candidate specially."
Ecuadorian embassy confirms it cut Julian Assange's internet connection to prevent interference in US elections (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/julian-assange-eucador-internet-connection-us-election-a7368836.html)
The Ecuador government is a left wing government. If they thought it would help Hilary they would have allowed the connection to stay open. Furthermore, if the democrats thought it was a vote winner they could have released the information themselves.
Quote from: Pimander on October 19, 2016, 02:33:01 PM
The wikileaks emails are to DISCREDIT the Democrats not help them. Am I the only one here who can see this obvious fact? LOL :P
There is no doubt wikileaks is workin against the clinton campain.. Thats the obvious.
I think Zorgon was talking about Podesta trying to push disclosure during the administration and that could mean that he know nothing, not about the leaks. Afterall, the emails were LEAKED not published by democrats will.
i was at lop chatting last night when it came to me.ww2 german vril tech should be coming out in about 2 years.i think this is what hildabeast was hinting at.2017-1944=73 years.so its got to be doom,the elite wouldnt want the peasants getting this tech.
Quote from: RUSSO on October 20, 2016, 09:53:34 PM
I think Zorgon was talking about Podesta trying to push disclosure during the administration and that could mean that he know nothing,
That is Exactly what I am talking about based on endless posts by Grant Cameron about Podesta/Killary/UFO on Facebook Even Grant's own supporters are getting irritated and telling him to give it a rest
Quote from: petrus4 on October 19, 2016, 10:46:44 AM
The reason being, of course, that historical monarchs tended to have actual power.
So how much ACTUAL power does Queen E have exactly?
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Quote from: zorgon on October 21, 2016, 03:37:01 AM
So how much ACTUAL power does Queen E have exactly?
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I used the word "historical."
Quote from: petrus4 on October 21, 2016, 06:34:51 AM
I used the word "historical."
Well I have letters from Clark County officials sent by mail to King Zorgon... does that count?
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Well it is certainly histerical :P
Quote from: zorgon on October 21, 2016, 03:37:01 AM
So how much ACTUAL power does Queen E have exactly?
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Officially you can't form a government without the Queen's say so. She can dissolve parliament any time she likes. Basically after a general election you only have the right to sit in parliament. The government is appointed by the Queen.
If she exercised that power I suspect that would be the end on Monarchy in the UK.
So she has all that power...
...but can't use it :P
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