I think this needs thought: Trump and Hillary are still alive.
If the world was dominated to the extent some think by a centralized Cabal of Satanists or whatever, I doubt that Trump would still be with us. Why risk a 'bull in a china shop' becoming President as we see now? Expecting him to be compliant is absurd, even if he promised otherwise. He's 70 and how far would threats go?
In regard to the past week, if such an evil command structure exists, why is Hillary still with us? Could the Democrats score a huge sympathy vote otherwise? Defeat Trump, end most of the deepening FBI scandal and still have a compliant Kaine in office? He could even get on national TV and offer to appoint Sanders as VP after the election. He gets elected as VP on the ballot, uses the 25th Amendment to become President and avoids a mess.
If the scenarios above haven't - or now, don't happen, then the conspiracy theories are limited in their logic. The Elite may be biting their nails like everyone else.
Or this is really the elite's plan, to make us think that there isn't an elite. :)
With so many bad things said about Hillary..
If there is just 10 % or even 1% of proof of what has been said about her.. then it is hard to believe that she has not been brought to justice prior to this stage..
Yes Donald Trump is still here.. and so much has been suggested as to who is in the lead.
We see egs of Low attendance at some of Hillary's speeches..
So does that make Trump seems most likely to be Triumpant !
Or will the PTB still rig the election and put Hillary in power ?
or is it all put on and all are involved...
The more I have looked into all this the more theories that have been suggested and maybe it just seems too hard to really make judgement
and there seems so many possibilities and one can see that if there is some hidden corrupt agenda as to how things could be ..it maybe that those at the top are just too powerful to overcome... that even if Trump is as honest as he could be... they may have got to him.
There are even theories that there are Non Humans that have such control over them or Mind Control...or that they have body doubles. or that they are shapeshifting aliens who can make themselves look human....who really knows !
But no doubt Trump has seemed to be addressing or fighting against so many of the theories behind what many of us believe were the evil like agendas of the NWO that the likes of Alex Jones has talked about..
If he is really trying to stand against evil.. then he is no doubt a hero in our Modern era as many of the past hero's we are aware about thru out past history .
There is another story that I have been following that has involved some who recently has been said to have been murdered who it is now being said was going to expose facts about Hilary...
He claimed to be a special soldier and had been involved in dealings with many of the extreme topics that relate to secret space program and ETs..which also included being a time traveler.who he says he had been subject to severe mind control.
there are a LOT of people who discuss it, who seem to suggest that they are aware about a lot that he talked about.or maybe had been involved in some related things .and have not just descredited him about making such extreme claims.
Then there are rumors that he is not really dead as after investigations of various strange occurrences and events prior and after he suggested death... Unless they do a further autopsy.. it is being suggested that the body in the Coffin is not him..
but it had been suggested that the PTB had killed him off as he was going to expose Hillary.
its been a very strange set of events that also one other researcher involved has claimed that he was also almost killed off.
if any of it is truth, being such reseachers is a dangerous business.
It maybe something we will never really know !
Quote from: Eighthman on October 30, 2016, 01:08:57 PM
I think this needs thought: Trump and Hillary are still alive.
If the world was dominated to the extent some think by a centralized Cabal of Satanists or whatever, I doubt that Trump would still be with us. Why risk a 'bull in a china shop' becoming President as we see now? Expecting him to be compliant is absurd, even if he promised otherwise. He's 70 and how far would threats go?
In regard to the past week, if such an evil command structure exists, why is Hillary still with us? Could the Democrats score a huge sympathy vote otherwise? Defeat Trump, end most of the deepening FBI scandal and still have a compliant Kaine in office? He could even get on national TV and offer to appoint Sanders as VP after the election. He gets elected as VP on the ballot, uses the 25th Amendment to become President and avoids a mess.
If the scenarios above haven't - or now, don't happen, then the conspiracy theories are limited in their logic. The Elite may be biting their nails like everyone else.
Quote from: ArMaP on October 30, 2016, 02:27:13 PM
Or this is really the elite's plan, to make us think that there isn't an elite. :)
But if it's an elite plan that proves there are elites :P
stop confusing yourself :p
Quote from: zorgon on October 30, 2016, 08:50:18 PM
But if it's an elite plan that proves there are elites :P
But how do you know if it is or if it isn't?
Quotestop confusing yourself :p
Too late for that. ;D
If they don't act quickly and dramatically, they may not be elite much longer. They need Crooked Hillary to keep the cabal going. Trump is far too unpredictable to trust with the PTB futures. There has been alarm that he dismisses intel briefings about Russia - although I don't entirely blame him because so called experts on Russia seem to be wildly biased and unthinking.
'If this goes viral, Trump will win': Michael Moore leaves internet dazed, confused and on fire.
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Hell hath frozen over.
A video excerpt from liberal Michael Moore is taking the internet by storm. But it's not Moore's loyal fans singing his praises for a passionate political confession – it's Donald Trump's supporters who are doing the cheering.
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In the speech that was given before an audience in Ohio, reportedly for the film "Trumpland," Moore delves deep into the mindset of Trump's appeal.
But first, he shockingly starts out by defending Trump supporters.
"They're not racists or rednecks, they're actually pretty decent people. So, after talking to a number of them, I sort of wanted to sort of write this."
Moore went on to read a piece where he shares what he believes is the momentum behind the Trump movement. He recounts Trump's visit to Detroit, where he had talked of the city's dismal economy and it apparently left a deep impression on Moore.
Donald Trump came to the Detroit Economic Club and stood there in front of the Ford Motor executives and said: if you close these factories, as you are planning to do in Detroit, and rebuild them in Mexico, I am going to put a 35% tariff on those cars when you send them back and nobody's going to buy them.
It was an amazing thing to see.
No politician — Republican or Democrat — had ever said anything like that to these executives. It was music to the ears of people in Michigan and Ohio and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. The Brexit states. You live here in Ohio. You know what I am talking about.
Moore went on to talk of the forgotten man, who works hard — if he or she is lucky enough to have a job — and continually gets screwed by the very representatives who are supposed to have their backs.
Donald Trump's choice of hosts for new 'Trump Tower Live' show sets off mega-shockwaves
Whether Trump means it or not, it's kind of irrelevant because he's saying the things that people who are hurting. And it's why every beaten down, nameless, forgotten working stiff who used to be part of what was called the middle-class loves Trump.
He is the human Molotov cocktail that they have been waiting for. The human hand grenade that they can legally throw into the system that stole their lives from them. And on November 8th — Election Day — although they have lost their jobs. Although they've been foreclosed on by the bank. Next came the divorce and now the wife and kids are gone. The car's been repossessed. They haven't had a real vacation in years. They're stuck with the poopty Obamacare bronze plan. They can't even get a f**king percocet.
In so many words, the filmmaker spoke of the movement that ultimately rose from the power America's Founders passed on from generations ago, when they fought, and soldiers after them, and soldiers who currently spill blood for freedom. Moore reminds that every law-abiding American has been given a means to fight back corruption on Election Day.
They have essentially lost everything they had...except one thing. The one thing that doesn't cost them a cent and is guaranteed to them by the American Constitution: the right to vote.
They might be penniless. They might be homeless. They might be f**ked over and f**ked up. It doesn't matter because it is equalized on that day. A millionaire has the same number of votes as a person without a job: ONE.
And there is more of the former middle-class than there are in the millionaire class. So, on November 8th, the dispossessed will walk into the voting booth, be handed a ballot, close the curtain, take that lever — or felt pen or touchscreen — and put a big f**king X in the box by the name of the man who has threatened to upend and overturn the very system that has ruined their lives: Donald J. Trump.
Lara Trump teases about what the campaign has 'up their sleeve' for October – gets someone's attention!
But there is no bond that brings Donald Trump and his supporters closer than their common enemies.
They see that the elites who have ruined their lives hate Trump.
Corporate America hates Trump.
Wall Street hates Trump.
The career politicians hate Trump.
The Media hates Trump...after they loved him and created him. Now, they hate him. Thank you, Media.
The enemy of my enemy is who I am voting for on November 8th.
Moore closes with a powerful and seemingly heartfelt prediction, so heartfelt it has many wondering if Moore has become a closet Trump supporter.
Yes, on November 8th, YOU — Joe Blow, Steve Blow, Bob Blow, Billy Blow, Billy Bob Blow, all the Blows — get to go and blow up the whole goddamn system because it's your right.
Trump's election is going to be the biggest F**K YOU ever recorded in human history.
And it will feel good.
Moore's words resonated with many of Trump supporters, and they're determined to make it viral.
Democrats may hate Donald Trump, but they're terrified of Marco Rubio
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Quote from: ArMaP on October 30, 2016, 10:30:45 PM
But how do you know if it is or if it isn't?
Because only the elite have the MONEy to pull off a plan like that :P The rest of us are broke
Quote from: Eighthman on October 30, 2016, 11:04:33 PM
If they don't act quickly and dramatically, they may not be elite much longer. They need Crooked Hillary to keep the cabal going. Trump is far too unpredictable to trust with the PTB futures.
precisely That is why they are so desperate and propping her up at all costs What I want to know is what is PLAN B? when Hillary is in office and collapses?
Trump was never supposed to get this far. It was supposed to be Jeb Bush. They KNOW that Trump is a danger to the old school crooks and their cushy jobs. That is why they have all been against him
And that is why We the people need to vote for him not because he is a nice guy, not necessarily because he will be a good president..
...but because he scares the hell out of the old timers dug in like rats in the current covernment
QuoteThere has been alarm that he dismisses intel briefings about Russia - although I don't entirely blame him because so called experts on Russia seem to be wildly biased and unthinking.
Yes Hillary and clan are determined to get us into war with Russia Her team is STILL saying it was Russian hackers that got her, despite it being proven it was her own staff
If Hillary gets in you can bet we will be trying to start WWIII with Russia
However I am 100% confident that Putin will ignore it :D
Message to Vladimir Putin...
If the Soros Puppet Hillary DOES get placed into the White house and declares war on Russia (which seems to be her goal) PLEASE just nuke Washington
We won't mind :P
OH and bring the vodka for the after party :D
Quote from: Eighthman on October 30, 2016, 11:04:33 PMThere has been alarm that he dismisses intel briefings about Russia - although I don't entirely blame him because so called experts on Russia seem to be wildly biased and unthinking.
Vladimir Putin Just Made A MASSIVE Donald Trump Announcement!(http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/1putin.jpg)
QuoteThere are plenty of reasons to disagree with Russian leader Vladimir Putin. But unlike President Barack Obama, we know EXACTLY where Putin stands on the Islamic State (ISIS)... and under Putin's leadership, Russia's military has shown itself willing to kill the Islamic terrorists.
Putin sees how weak and pathetic the American president is, which is why he just made a big announcement: Vladimir Putin endorses Donald Trump for President!
From a recent press conference...
Russian President Vladimir Putin had kind words for his "stablemate" Donald Trump during an annual end-of-the-year Q&A session in Moscow.
"[Donald Trump is] a really brilliant and talented person, without any doubt," [Vladimir] Putin told reporters, according to a translation by Interfax. "It's not our job to judge his qualities, that's a job for American voters, but he's the absolute leader in the presidential race."
The GOP frontrunner has been blunt about his plans for defrosting U.S. relations with Russia should he be elected president.
"He says he wants to move on to a new, more substantial relationship, a deeper relationship with Russia, how can we not welcome that?" he said. "Of course we welcome that."
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PUTIN: 'There's a reason' Donald Trump 'behaves extravagantly'Quoteussian President Vladimir Putin told a group of foreign policy experts in southern Russia on Thursday that Donald Trump's "extravagant behavior" is just his way of getting his message across to voters.
"He has chosen a method to get through to voters' hearts," Putin said at the annual meeting of the the Valdai Discussion Club in Sochi.
Trump "behaves extravagantly of course, we see this, but I think there's a reason for this. He represents part of US society that's tired of having the elite in power for decades," Putin said.
Putin said the mainstream US media's claim he supports Trump over Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee, is "nonsense," but that Russia "welcomes statements that US-Russian relations should be improved from anyone." The US intelligence community has accused the Russian government of hacking Democratic Party organizations, a charge Russia has denied.
Vladimir GETS IT :P Time to WAKE UP SHEEPLE
http://www.businessinsider.com/putin-trump-russia-us-behavior-2016-10
Trump "behaves extravagantly of course, we see this, but I think there's a reason for this. He represents part of US society that's tired of having the elite in power for decades," Putin said.
Quote from: zorgon on October 31, 2016, 12:52:13 AM
And that is why We the people need to vote for him not because he is a nice guy, not necessarily because he will be a good president..
...but because he scares the hell out of the old timers dug in like rats in the current covernment
That's the idea people get, so it makes me think that that's what they really want people to think, and, if that's the case, those voting for Trump are doing what TPTB want. In fact, I think TPTB are behind both candidates, so they will always win.
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