America's Flying Saucers Project 1794.
This suggested that at the time of Roswell a Surviving Alien helped advise the US Govt to develop man-made type Flying Saucers...that may have also later led on to the development of their more advanced aircraft technology.
If so maybe it was impossible to replicate the identical same type of E.T craft that crashed at Roswell ... as some of their technology and materials may have only been available from other planets.
The video shows some of the development of US type Saucers and advanced aircraft technology..
some referring to the Avrocar as in the link below.
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2111.msg28914#msg28914
It also suggested that the US may have been making out that that had obtained advanced E.T technology that they had also obtained just after the Nuclear weapon issues that they had recently demonstrated in 1945 as well as to oppose or to make it seen a even greater threat to the Russians as they later had obtained their Nuclear technology..
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1g31mf_unsealed-conspiracy-files-s01e22-americas-flying-saucer_news
Unless ET used rocket engines and an atmosphere there really was NOTHING extraterrestrial about any of this project. This was ALL HUMAN designed for operation within the confines of our atmosphere.
Quote from: Ellirium113 on November 20, 2016, 03:23:55 PM
Unless ET used rocket engines and an atmosphere there really was NOTHING extraterrestrial about any of this project. This was ALL HUMAN designed for operation within the confines of our atmosphere.
On the assumption that there is probably "SOME" element of truth in this story/report, my guess would be that the alien power source would probably the most difficult part of the craft for Earth peoples to replicate, even with an alien "mechanic's" help. :)
For all who are interested, I am posting here a link to the "Project 1794 Final Development Summary Report - 2 April - 30 May 1956".
I have only glanced at a few of the pages, but this is a complete detailed presentatiion of this now declassified document, with many drawings and pictures!!
http://airwingmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Project1794FinalDevelopmentSummaryReport2April-30May19561.pdf
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Not sure of all the details behind the MAN MADE Flying Saucers or advanced Manmade aircraft...
But I did try to indicate that it MAY have helped man to create their Flying Saucers and advanced aircraft that we have that operates on Earth...
I did say that it may not be possible to be able to create or replicate an E.T Saucer as the materials may not be available on Earth...and maybe the means to create other aspects of one may not be possible to do with what ever technology we may be capable of...
What Maybe I should have said is ...It may have offered some guidance with certain related aspects of such a craft such as aerodynamics or lift and maneuver abilities....
The Actual engines may have had to be Rocket type.
But even if this was so it was not one step to get to the most advanced design that we now have that could have taken several years to get to...but so far that maybe a blip in terms of how long man has been on Earth...
but it would have taken from say 1947 to present...almost 70 yrs.
I initially had watched the program on TV...and have not re-watched all the video in full as yet.. but I think that there maybe some parts missing in the posted video link..but I could not find any other longer video for that title / episode in the series..
It may be that the Video only shows the AVRO CAR..
but If I recall the full version does refer to other later Saucer type Craft and then later refers to advanced Aircraft...some having some Saucer like parts to them which we have seen several egs.
I think it has often been Suggested that maybe some or one of the Saucers claimed to be at Area 51s S4 may have been a the Roswell Craft....but I wonder do readers believe that Maybe one of the possible ETs from that craft did survive to advise the US Govt as the video suggested...QuoteThis suggested that at the time of Roswell a Surviving Alien helped advise the US Govt to develop man-made type Flying Saucers...that may have also later led on to the development of their more advanced aircraft technology.
If so, maybe it was impossible to replicate the identical same type of E.T craft that crashed at Roswell ... as some of their technology and materials may have only been available from other planets.
Quote from: Ellirium113 on November 20, 2016, 03:23:55 PM
Unless ET used rocket engines and an atmosphere there really was NOTHING extraterrestrial about any of this project. This was ALL HUMAN designed for operation within the confines of our atmosphere.
It maybe that an actual E.T power source would be impossible to replicate on Earth.
If say that the Roswell Saucer was a Lazar type Space model Craft... then at the time the Element 115 for eg did not seem to be suggested as being available on Earth..
Rdunk
Quotemy guess would be that the alien power source would probably the most difficult part of the craft for Earth peoples to replicate, even with an alien "mechanic's" help. :)
Thanks for posting the info to this thread.
QuoteFor all who are interested, I am posting here a link to the "Project 1794 Final Development Summary Report - 2 April - 30 May 1956".
Quote from: rdunk on November 20, 2016, 04:56:18 PM
On the assumption that there is probably "SOME" element of truth in this story/report, my guess would be that the alien power source would probably the most difficult part of the craft for Earth peoples to replicate, even with an alien "mechanic's" help. :)
While I am quite certain there was alien related ufo projects, there was nothing extraordinary about these AVRO projects. 100% human designed without ET help or technology.
Yea, I don't believe any of this crap.
Peeps, the Avro car was basically a giant ducted fan which was very unstable... A dog and pony show to distract and obfuscate those watching...
Herr Zorgon has info on the living moon if I am not mistaken and I believe there is at least one thread on it here; the suppasition that it is an offshoot of outsider tech is so thin it is see thru...
Seeker
Quote from: Ellirium113 on November 20, 2016, 06:30:59 PM
there was nothing extraordinary about these AVRO projects. 100% human designed without ET help or technology.
LOL THAT old piece of junque :P
Quote from: the seeker on November 20, 2016, 11:13:26 PM
Peeps, the Avro car was basically a giant ducted fan which was very unstable... A dog and pony show to distract and obfuscate those watching...
Back in Canada there is a huge tract of land designated no fly zone for the use of the military Back in the 40's and 50's this was shared with the US Air Force
The newspapers of the day had heard rumors that Canada was developing NAZI tech at that location. The Avrocar was a hastily built contraption using the COANDA EFFECT to dispell rumors. The press came and saw, laughed their asses off at this piece of junk, and went away
THIS is a Coanda Effect saucer that has stability vanes added. You can build one at home for a few bucks :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXVtUCABiv8
This is the original classified film of the Avrocar A single fan using the Coanda effect with no stability vanes. It didn't even make a good hover craft :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjWHrPYvUo0
This is the Aviano italy 2005 "UFO" It too is a Coanda effect saucer You can see the vanes opening and closing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfaxGrb5cfI
QuoteHerr Zorgon has info on the living moon if I am not mistaken and I believe there is at least one thread on it here; the suppasition that it is an offshoot of outsider tech is so thin it is see thru...
Seeker
ALL of that has been covered in threads here and on the website
Henri Coanda - Coanda Effecthttp://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1725.msg35233#msg35233
The German Connection
Nazi Saucers and Saucer Technologyhttp://www.thelivingmoon.com/47brotherthebig/index.html
Clearly I need to be more of an info-whore here on Pegasus. I've been rooting around reading all kinds of good stuff here, but it just keeps getting better.
Kudos to Zorgon. The sheer volume of content is daunting, but worth every minute spent reading instead of cleaning up cat barf.
Irene ;D
Quote from: Irene on November 21, 2016, 03:25:19 AM
Clearly I need to be more of an info-whore here on Pegasus. I've been rooting around reading all kinds of good stuff here, but it just keeps getting better.
Kudos to Zorgon. The sheer volume of content is daunting, but worth every minute spent reading instead of cleaning up cat barf.
Irene ;D
Need to switch over to ferrets like Z has 8) seems ferret poop would be easier to deal with than cat barf...
Seeker
Yes it doesn't smell very much and dries fast and the are liter box trainable :P
But I want to know where I can get the BIG ones :P
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Info whore is a good description of a cter.
The reason for 3 half balls on bottom of most ufos is because the coanda effect is more like a three legged stool versus a single legged stool.thats why alot of first ufos built by man had problems with stability,once they started using 3 and 4 balls/electrodes those problems went away.they can turn the electrodes each off.which will lean the craft in a direction.newer ufos avoid this situation by having electrodes on sides also.the b2 bomber has them just on sides.front and rear of plane.for space travel and invisibility.it doesnt need them in atmosphere.as it has engines for that.and very large wings to get it close to space.then the electrodes kick in.
Secret Alien Attack.
Part of the video discusses the Dulce ...in connection with the US Govt and it being in connection as being an E.T research Underground base.
I think Dulce usually refers to the Phil Schneider, but this video surprisingly does not mention him....but it does still suggest that the base was involved in conflict between Humans and ETs.
It maybe a basic overall description of what the Dulce story is or was about without bring Phil into it.
So I wonder what if any truths relate to it...
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1g31di_unsealed-conspiracy-files-s01e18-secret-alien-attack_news
I still have problems with the DULCE story... it has only one source
John told me he got all his info from Cherry Hinkle.
I do have all his notes I need to get those scanned and add them to the TT Brown papers
Quote from: zorgon on November 23, 2016, 07:47:13 AM
I still have problems with the DULCE story... it has only one source
John told me he got all his info from Cherry Hinkle.
I do have all his notes I need to get those scanned and add them to the TT Brown papers
I can verify John's hand written notes...I was with Zorgon the night Mr Lear gave them to him 8)
Frankenstein Phil was one story; As far as Thomas Castello he was reported missing years ago...
Extraordinary claims are often difficult to verify...
Seeker
I have read from some various sources as to Dulce's existence..and come across someone who claimed to have worked there...other than Phil S.
but was never really sure about other possible stories connected to it other than Phil Schneider's that may have involved US Gov / Military claiming that they entered such a base...
If it exists ..why would anyone attempt to enter it in the way Phil suggested...as I suspect it would be assumed that it was created by or with some connection to the US Govt who perhaps we would think had some sort of connection to any E.Ts if they were involved...So would it likely be E.Ts that created it or the US Govt or both combined...
It would be good if there was some valid information about if it is really in existence..
"Z"
QuoteI still have problems with the DULCE story... it has only one source.
John told me he got all his info from Cherry Hinkle.
I do have all his notes I need to get those scanned and add them to the TT Brown papers
Seeker
QuoteI can verify John's hand written notes...I was with Zorgon the night Mr Lear gave them to him 8)
Frankenstein Phil was one story; As far as Thomas Castello he was reported missing years ago...
Extraordinary claims are often difficult to verify...
Seeker
Any time i see native american land involved,i think UN.
Unsealed Conspiracy Files S01E20 Secret Government Warehouses.
Another Conspiracy Files connected to some of the UFO theories..
some that I have not been aware about before...No doubt some here have seen the whole series or similar ! but it may insight a few things that may have been missed or not have been taken in at the time..
Its been said that there has not been any evidence that Gold is still at Fort Knox...or if what appeared to be there last time witnessed, was ever real.. So..Is there still Gold at Fort Knox...? Or is / was it holding the crashed Roswell UFO ?
this and other warehouse / connected Alien technology related stories..for anyone not seen the series / this episode..
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1g31fz_unsealed-conspiracy-files-s01e20-secret-government-warehouses_news