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Title: Opinions Please
Post by: Irene on December 05, 2016, 09:37:07 PM
Man is harassed in the clubhouse of an apartment complex by two obnoxious people because he is wearing a #BuildTheWall T-shirt.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VsoVYStL6gQ (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VsoVYStL6gQ)
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: Ellirium113 on December 05, 2016, 10:24:56 PM
LMAO The guy allowed that to happen because he had no idea what to say in his defense. I would have given them the real answer and remind them they are free to F-off if they don't like it. And so what if he said he was racist, what then? They try to convince him not to be? Definitely would have been a much more entertaining video if I was in that seat.  :P
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: Irene on December 05, 2016, 10:33:28 PM
Quote from: Ellirium113 on December 05, 2016, 10:24:56 PM
LMAO The guy allowed that to happen because he had no idea what to say in his defense. I would have given them the real answer and remind them they are free to F-off if they don't like it. And so what if he said he was racist, what then? They try to convince him not to be? Definitely would have been a much more entertaining video if I was in that seat.  :P

To me is just more proof of how hypocritical and nasty the left is.

I, too, would not have been so passive.
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: rdunk on December 05, 2016, 10:35:04 PM
There is an extreme need to "build the wall", but the wall and enforced laws will not overcome the "demonstrated ignorance" like these who slanderously attacked this person in the video, just because of a T-shirt.

This is very representative of what is common for leftists, in not actually understanding of just how stupidly they sometimes present themselves to be, simply with what they say and and how they say things!!   :o :o
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: petrus4 on December 05, 2016, 10:44:37 PM
Leftists disapprove of the fundamental values or ethics that they often see exhibited by the Right, but they continue to use the authoritarian physical or psychological tactics of the extreme or fascist Right, in order to achieve their objectives.

They do not understand that the choice of tactics, in practical terms, is an outgrowth of the underlying philosophy.  They further do not understand, that if philosophy and tactics conflict, then it is just as likely for the tactics to influence the philosophy, as for the philosophy to influence the tactics.

Putting this in less abstract terms; as we have seen, the Left can claim that they want to get rid of any form of hatred being expressed towards any individuals or groups.  This is a noble desired end; however, we have unfortunately also seen the Left persue it, by engaging in physical violence towards those groups or individuals who they consider hateful.

The ends can not, and do not justify the means.  If, in the process of accomplishing a given task, methods are chosen which are in fact antithetical to the required conditions for achieving said objective, then it will not be achieved.  It will be subverted, and a very different result will occur instead.
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: Sinny on December 05, 2016, 11:16:45 PM
When will people grow up and accept that the left/right paradigm is outdated and manipulated to cash in political and psychological polarisation, designed to divide and conquer.

Right now I see extremes emerging on the right, and on the left.

Both are deplorable... and I'm left wondering where all the sane people are.

Most the people here have aligned them selves with the Alt Right...which is not a coincidence I'm sure.. 

I personally think you are all barking mad.

(For not transcending preconceived political ideologies, which I assess to primitive, driven by the Id no less)
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: Irene on December 05, 2016, 11:37:54 PM
I don't know about anyone else, but I haven't seen anyone on the right behaving this way, in your face and mean.

I've seen some regrettable behavior by Trump supporters, the "heil" sign and some smug announcements about his win, but nothing like what happens in this video. This was a personal attack and completely out of line in a country where we prize the First Amendment.
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: Ellirium113 on December 05, 2016, 11:43:29 PM
The fact of the matter in this case is that "The Wall" is not ABOUT RACISM! He could have explained what it was about and diffused the situation OR he could have just the same sent them into a rage on purpose as I likely would have done just for entertainment (but that's just me).
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: Irene on December 05, 2016, 11:46:56 PM
Quote from: Ellirium113 on December 05, 2016, 11:43:29 PM
The fact of the matter in this case is that "The Wall" is not ABOUT RACISM! He could have explained what it was about and diffused the situation OR he could have just the same sent them into a rage on purpose as I likely would have done just for entertainment (but that's just me).

Yeah, I gotta confess, I got a kick out of thinking about winding them up, but years of working in LE put the brakes on that temptation.

I'm ruined.   ::)
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: Eighthman on December 06, 2016, 12:16:23 AM
The idiocy is that Mexico is flirting with becoming a failed state, full of narcoterrorists, vigilantes and corrupt officials.

A wall might become an absolute necessity.
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: ArMaP on December 06, 2016, 12:57:56 AM
Quote from: Sinny on December 05, 2016, 11:16:45 PM
When will people grow up and accept that the left/right paradigm is outdated and manipulated to cash in political and psychological polarisation, designed to divide and conquer.
From what I have seen, the definition of "left" and "right" in the US is slightly different, as with most things related to politics, so it doesn't have a real parallel on this side of the Atlantic.

As in most things, they only have extremes, so they use opposing names, but it doesn't really mean that those names are the correct ones.
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: Irene on December 06, 2016, 01:07:12 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on December 06, 2016, 12:57:56 AM
From what I have seen, the definition of "left" and "right" in the US is slightly different, as with most things related to politics, so it doesn't have a real parallel on this side of the Atlantic.

As in most things, they only have extremes, so they use opposing names, but it doesn't really mean that those names are the correct ones.

Okay, I'm just going to label the girl "pinhead". How does that work for you?   :P
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: ArMaP on December 06, 2016, 01:17:26 AM
Quote from: Irene on December 06, 2016, 01:07:12 AM
How does that work for you?   :P
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by that.  ???
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: The Seeker on December 06, 2016, 01:37:53 AM
I need to get one of those shirts 8) Trust me, they wouldn't like what I had to say and I daresay they would be looking for someplace else to be...

Seeker
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: zorgon on December 06, 2016, 02:48:33 AM
Quote from: Irene on December 05, 2016, 11:46:56 PM
Yeah, I gotta confess, I got a kick out of thinking about winding them up, but years of working in LE put the brakes on that temptation.

I'm ruined.   ::)

So  your saying a cop can't put away tyhe badge and gun on his'her free time and wail on assholes?

tsk tsk  what has become of America :P
::)
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: zorgon on December 06, 2016, 02:54:19 AM
The LEFT never was this bad 

I was left  I supported Trudeau in the 70's and he did great.

But seems the last few years they have become stupid to the extreme, don't have a clue about any real facts and are just blind sheep following some leader with an agenda to disrupt..

I think it is because the have way to much free time on their hands and way to much freebies They don't have a clue what real work is all about and would need councelling if they had to get a real job

Now imagine what would happen if you extrapolate this scenario to an Abundance paradigm :P  Multiply what you see at least 10 fold

Idle hands and Adeled Brains are truly the Devil's Tools :P

(Figure of speech "Devil" does not infer Lucifer :D )
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: robomont on December 06, 2016, 03:04:05 AM
abundance paradigm came out of left field!
wow!
i was just about to say,trolling done right,is a very useful brain practice.and a real rush; )
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: robomont on December 06, 2016, 03:17:34 AM
Quote from: Sinny on December 05, 2016, 11:16:45 PM
When will people grow up and accept that the left/right paradigm is outdated and manipulated to cash in political and psychological polarisation, designed to divide and conquer.

Right now I see extremes emerging on the right, and on the left.

Both are deplorable... and I'm left wondering where all the sane people are.

Most the people here have aligned them selves with the Alt Right...which is not a coincidence I'm sure.. 

I personally think you are all barking mad.

(For not transcending preconceived political ideologies, which I assess to primitive, driven by the Id no less)
this,imho.minus the barking mad,more like decieved like the majority.but due to my own mental struggles lately,i dont bet on anything.we could all be under AI influence..
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: The Seeker on December 06, 2016, 03:20:47 AM
Quote from: zorgon on December 06, 2016, 02:54:19 AM
The LEFT never was this bad 

I was left  I supported Trudeau in the 70's and he did great.

But seems the last few years they have become stupid to the extreme, don't have a clue about any real facts and are just blind sheep following some leader with an agenda to disrupt..

I think it is because the have way to much free time on their hands and way to much freebies They don't have a clue what real work is all about and would need councelling if they had to get a real job

Now imagine what would happen if you extrapolate this scenario to an Abundance paradigm :P  Multiply what you see at least 10 fold

Idle hands and Adeled Brains are truly the Devil's Tools :P

(Figure of speech "Devil" does not infer Lucifer :D )

The millenials have been spoon fed and had their tails wiped for them from the cradle all the way to college  ::)
In the last 6 years I have went thru a good dozen of them; they want and expect to make more than I do(and last time I looked I was the operations manager and #3 behind the prez and vice prez) want someone to do the work for them, and have a wailing hissy fit if they get their hands dirty... not to mention that they don't have any idea at all how to do anything besides piss and moan...
and what really chaps my ass is they have been taught and fully believe we owe them a living...

::)

The country is in big trouble when the boomers and the few genx'ers worth a damn retire or die off...

Seeker
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: robomont on December 06, 2016, 04:07:22 AM
what industry is that ?,seeker.
ive given up trying to work.too many snowflakes and prudes.being stuck in the middle ,age wise,i chose my sanity.
the last job i had was convenience store,i lasted 7 days.got fired for being an asshole,no patience for the sea of retards thats never ending.the zombie legion,imho.

the great loss of intelligent folks over the last 5 years ,is stunning,almost like the world has been dumbed down by 30%,not so much on pegasus but in general population.
maybe its from the sea of disinformation in the world today.
it still astounds me how we have almost infinite access to knowledge in our hand and folks still just dont care or have a clue ¿
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: Irene on December 06, 2016, 04:27:40 AM
Quote from: robomont on December 06, 2016, 04:07:22 AM
what industry is that ?,seeker.
ive given up trying to work.too many snowflakes and prudes.being stuck in the middle ,age wise,i chose my sanity.
the last job i had was convenience store,i lasted 7 days.got fired for being an asshole,no patience for the sea of retards thats never ending.the zombie legion,imho.

the great loss of intelligent folks over the last 5 years ,is stunning,almost like the world has been dumbed down by 30%,not so much on pegasus but in general population.
maybe its from the sea of disinformation in the world today.
it still astounds me how we have almost infinite access to knowledge in our hand and folks still just dont care or have a clue ¿

This amuses the hell out of me. You complain about cops being assholes and then turn around and admit that you are an asshole too.

:o
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: zorgon on December 06, 2016, 04:45:09 AM
Quote from: Irene on December 06, 2016, 04:27:40 AM
This amuses the hell out of me. You complain about cops being assholes and then turn around and admit that you are an asshole too.

old saying:

'Takes one to know one" :P
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: Irene on December 06, 2016, 05:02:16 AM
Quote from: zorgon on December 06, 2016, 04:45:09 AM
old saying:

'Takes one to know one" :P

I try hard not to be one, but I can definitely rise to the occasion.   8)
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: petrus4 on December 06, 2016, 07:51:31 AM
Quote from: Sinny on December 05, 2016, 11:16:45 PM
When will people grow up and accept that the left/right paradigm is outdated and manipulated to cash in political and psychological polarisation, designed to divide and conquer.

Sinny, in my experience the divide does exist.

The Right don't walk around naked in public, because they realise that the human body very often is a genuinely ugly thing.

The Right don't defecate on cars during protests, or again publically defecate and smear fecal matter all over photos of politicians they don't like.

The Right aren't obsessed with political correctness, and their speech is not filled with invented neologisms.

Other than in the case of veterans with PTSD, who apparently are literally neurologically incapable of changing their opinions, most conservatives I've spoken to also will not either attempt to censor me, or dismiss me out of hand for expressing an opinion that they don't like.

In general terms, in my experience the Right believe in civility as a virtue.  Sometimes there is a negative scenario where said civility is considered more important than compassion or real kindness, and that is not a good thing either; but neither is a scenario where people believe that they can be as animalistic or unhygienic as they like, as long as they are expressing socially permissible opinions.

The Right also believe in self-restraint as a vital element of sexual health.  That isn't about bigotry necessarily; it's about refraining from irresponsible behaviour that increases the likelihood of receiving sexually transmitted disease.
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: petrus4 on December 06, 2016, 07:55:33 AM
Quote from: robomont on December 06, 2016, 04:07:22 AM
the great loss of intelligent folks over the last 5 years ,is stunning,

I primarily blame social media and smartphones for this.  There is absolutely an adamant corporate campaign to reduce human intelligence as much as possible, so that we don't do anything other than passively consume.
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: The Seeker on December 06, 2016, 12:07:27 PM
Quote from: robomont on December 06, 2016, 04:07:22 AM
what industry is that ?
Robo, I am a millwright/fabricator/operator/mechanical engineer; the primary focus of my company is automotive and industrial shop construction and installations from bare earth to ready to work: air,oil,grease,exhaust systems, In ground and above ground lifts from the pad lifts at tire shops to the 100,000 lb capacity parallelogram lifts for bus shops and the military...

And that is just the tip of the iceberg...it takes about 2 years of OJT to become proficient as one of my installers...

Seeker
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: robomont on December 06, 2016, 12:16:06 PM
turnkey auto repair and maintenance shop construction,thats cool!