The Search for Tesla's Saucer
Working on the Pegasus Main Menu now painstakingly going through each page and link
Came across the Tesla saucer pages and found them sorely amiss
Main Menu under construction :P http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/menu.html
Nikola Tesla Articles
Nikola Tesla, A Man Ahead of His Time (Or How to Build a UFO) - By Bill Jones
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/02files/Tesla_Saucer.html
There are numerous images out there os the teslas Saucer patent but they are all clips So SOMEONE must have the originals that those clips came from
I also don't know which are actually Teslas or someone else like Otis Carr who used Tesla's designs
The MISSION is Find the files :D
(http://cs323125.vk.me/v323125187/32d3/ffE7oSkWXmk.jpg)
(http://www.ufopolis.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/420064_314881111968726_898128245_n2.jpg)
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QqFi4pvugyU/hqdefault.jpg)
(http://www.latest-ufo-sightings.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/nikola-tesla-flying-saucer.png)
need to CHARGE you guys up LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY-AS13fl30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJqoRaphiEk
Is Sarkov still dropping by? That first drawing above has notations in both english and what appears to be Russian...
and after reading that one brief on how to construct both the shell and lift components, we need to find out if there are other materials besides ceramic that are suitable non-conductive hull materials, altho that 480 magnet 19,400 cycle generator might get interesting to build...
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Have followed about 20 trails today looking for info on the posted pics; found #4 once, nothing on the rest; yet; still digging...
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Quote from: the seeker on February 01, 2017, 10:41:36 PM
Have followed about 20 trails today looking for info on the posted pics; found #4 once, nothing on the rest; yet; still digging...
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Same here, tried all the .mil sites...nada...
Got some hits on the CIA...but mostly about people sighting saucers...
Still looking....
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(http://cs323125.vk.me/v323125187/32d3/ffE7oSkWXmk.jpg)
I swear i have seen this somewhere before, and to me it looks like Bob Lazar's Sport model...
I need more coffee 8)
Seeker
Supposedly these photos of a Tesla saucer that was supposedly confiscated by the NSA, but I don't think the NSA was around back then? I've read several stories with this headline about the NSA but in the body of the article it talks about the Secret Service? So there's a lot of confusion with this.
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on February 02, 2017, 02:15:38 AM
Supposedly these photos of a Tesla saucer that was supposedly confiscated by the NSA, but I don't think the NSA was around back then? I've read several stories with this headline about the NSA but in the body of the article it talks about the Secret Service? So there's a lot of confusion with this.
In the timeframe this was supposed to happen I am pretty sure that the NSA,CIA and possibly the FBI didn't exist, so it would most likely be the secret service or military in nature
According to PBS The FBI was involved
http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/ll_mispapers.html
QuoteOne of the more controversial topics involving Nikola Tesla is what became of many of his technical and scientific papers after he died in 1943. Just before his death at the height of World War II, he claimed that he had perfected his so-called "death beam." So it was natural that the FBI and other U.S. Government agencies would be interested in any scientific ideas involving weaponry. Some were concerned that Tesla's papers might fall into the hands of the Axis powers or the Soviets.
The morning after the inventor's death, his nephew Sava Kosanovic´ hurried to his uncle's room at the Hotel New Yorker. He was an up-and-coming Yugoslav official with suspected connections to the communist party in his country. By the time he arrived, Tesla's body had already been removed, and Kosanovic´ suspected that someone had already gone through his uncle's effects. Technical papers were missing as well as a black notebook he knew Tesla kept—a notebook with several hundred pages, some of which were marked "Government."
P. E. Foxworth, assistant director of the New York FBI office, was called in to investigate. According to Foxworth, the government was "vitally interested" in preserving Tesla's papers. Two days after Tesla's death, representatives of the Office of Alien Property went to his room at the New Yorker Hotel and seized all his possessions.
Dr. John G. Trump, an electrical engineer with the National Defense Research Committee of the Office of Scientific Research and Development, was called in to analyze the Tesla papers in OAP custody. Following a three-day investigation, Dr. Trump concluded:
His [Tesla's] thoughts and efforts during at least the past 15 years were primarily of a speculative, philosophical, and somewhat promotional character often concerned with the production and wireless transmission of power; but did not include new, sound, workable principles or methods for realizing such results.
Just after World War II, there was a renewed interest in beam weapons. Copies of Tesla's papers on particle beam weaponry were sent to Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio. An operation code-named "Project Nick" was heavily funded and placed under the command of Brigadier General L. C. Craigie to test the feasibility of Tesla's concept. Details of the experiments were never published, and the project was apparently discontinued. But something peculiar happened. The copies of Tesla's papers disappeared and nobody knows what happened to them.
FBI VAULT Tesla files
https://vault.fbi.gov/nikola-tesla
Quote from: the seeker on February 02, 2017, 01:03:41 AM
I swear i have seen this somewhere before, and to me it looks like Bob Lazar's Sport model...
yeah i found it once on a Russian Website Posted it somewhere in here LOL But I can't find stuff here
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Quote from: zorgon on February 02, 2017, 10:24:10 AM
According to PBS The FBI was involved
http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/ll_mispapers.html
FBI VAULT Tesla files
https://vault.fbi.gov/nikola-tesla
went there and downloaded the 3 FBI pdf's on Tesla, figured you had them but I got my copy anyway.
It would also help if we could nail down a semi-specific time frame as to when Tesla was supposed to be working on this; the FBI files I have read deal with the time of his death, yet other mentions of his saucer point more to the 1915-1920 time frame.
Edit to add: Tesla applied for his "flying machine" patent in 1928
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Quote from: the seeker on February 01, 2017, 10:41:36 PM
Have followed about 20 trails today looking for info on the posted pics; found #4 once, nothing on the rest; yet; still digging...
Best way to find images is use google IMAGE SEARCH
Simply load the url and open the picture then right click on it and you should get a "search Google for image" option
It works on Chrome anyway haven't tried it any other browser
OR
You can go here
https://www.google.com/imghp?hl=en&ei=GWyTWLSQNKGa0gKz26uACg&ved=0EKouCAIoAQ
click on the little camera icon takes you here
Search by image
Search Google with an image instead of text. Try dragging an image here.
Paste image URL Upload an imageI find that tells me MANY things
1) it gives you a list of other image sizes biggest one first so you can get the best qaulity
2) it "USUALLY" has the original source in the first few text listings (just ignore Pintrest listings)
3) Tells you if its public domain just by the shear number of shares. If there are hundreds it is a safe bet it is public domain or copyright free (like most wallpapers are)
4) Each image has a link back to the page it is displayed on
5) It gives you similar images which really helps if the image you have is a crop from a bigger image
One place I found the first image was an ATS thread from someone we know. :)
Flux Liner Revisited (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1153437/pg1)
ok this image
(http://cs323125.vk.me/v323125187/32d3/ffE7oSkWXmk.jpg)
is from the Russian Area 51 Kasputin_Yar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapustin_Yar)
QuoteKapustin Yar (Russian: ???????? ??) is a Russian rocket launch and development site in Astrakhan Oblast, between Volgograd and Astrakhan. Known today as Znamensk (Russian: ????????), it was established in Soviet Union era on 13 May 1946 and in the beginning used technology, material and scientific support from defeated Germany. Numerous launches of test rockets for the Russian military were carried out at the site, as well as satellite and sounding rocket launches.
Above quote from Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapustin_Yar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapustin_Yar)
This image
(http://www.ufopolis.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/420064_314881111968726_898128245_n2.jpg)
is identified as nikola tesla anti gravity (https://www.google.com/search?sa=G&hl=en&q=nikola+tesla+anti+gravity&ved=0ahUKEwiVpvzBofLRAhXHz1QKHc8aBvAQvQ4IHSgE&biw=1280&bih=611)
which leads to this site
http://www.ancient-code.com/did-nikola-tesla-discover-the-secrets-of-antigravity/ (http://www.ancient-code.com/did-nikola-tesla-discover-the-secrets-of-antigravity/)
So he just posted that in Dec 2016 :D
Also copied here
http://encyclopedic.co.uk/flux-liner-revisited/
yeah here is the second one I was sure I have that posted somewhere here in the forum when i found them on a russian website Either that or i created a page for the website and lost it
(https://kingalpha.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/20130424-190000.jpg)
The way i understand it,the bush family has the originals.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QqFi4pvugyU/hqdefault.jpg)
found this one here
http://yournewswire.com/uncovered-teslas-patent-for-worlds-1st-flying-saucer/ (http://yournewswire.com/uncovered-teslas-patent-for-worlds-1st-flying-saucer/)
Quote from: zorgon on February 02, 2017, 08:54:29 PM
So he just posted that in Dec 2016 :D
Also copied here
http://encyclopedic.co.uk/flux-liner-revisited/
yeah here is the second one I was sure I have that posted somewhere here in the forum when i found them on a russian website Either that or i created a page for the website and lost it
(https://kingalpha.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/20130424-190000.jpg)
Did you ever call Mark?
From Earth Rise
QuoteNikola Tesla is considered one of the most innovative and mysterious men who ever lived.
If Tesla hadn't invented and researched everything he did in his time, our technology today would be considerably worse. But is there something more to Tesla?
Did he in fact have contact with Aliens as he publicly proclaimed? He is one of the most amazing inventors our civilization has ever known his knowledge and ideas went far and beyond what was known and Tesla was a Genius, and his inventions and ideas had no boundaries.
Over a hundred years ago, during the first decade of the twentieth century, Tesla filed a request to patent a peculiar aircraft, which he called "the world's first flying saucer."
The methods used in the design of the flying saucer matched the descriptions of those who claimed to have seen a from the UFO inside: with a discoidal capacitor with sufficient size to provide enough thrust to fly, while other small capacitors allowed to control the direction of the flying saucer, to which he added a gyroscopic stabilization system and a electric "drive" control.
Basically it is a incredibly well designed aircraft, one that we could actually manage to build today. Or have we already built it? What happened to this invention? Why are we not flying into space with Tesla's incredible invention?
While the patent was granted, the UFO or rather called IFO as it had been identified by the insatiable imagination of Tesla, had a drawback: since the aircraft did not include an energy source of its own, it needed to be energized by the towers of wireless transmission, Tesla's sources of "free energy".
The lack of funding led to the abandonment of the development of the towers, so, eventually the ship also fell into darkness, and Tesla's UFO or rather IFO was never made. But hold on Never?
Actually don't be so sure because the US Secret Service seized all patents belonging to Tesla after his death "for reasons of national security."
Now if Teslas ideas were insane as some had categorized them, why would the United States secret Service seize the patents for reasons of National Security? Hmmm lets think about it for a minute.
The ideas of ??the great Nikola Tesla are incredible and better yet, way ahead of its time, many of his inventions, aimed at contributing towards world peace through free energy access, but governments and financiers of the time, did not follow the progress of Tesla's mind.
Years later, his groundbreaking models and technological projects were used by the Nazis (not the way he had imagined it), and now numerous of his projects are held by the secret service, far away from the eyes of the public.
interesting...
Seeker
Interesting indeed.
Wouldn't you just love to be able to sit down and talk "shop" with him. Not that I would be able to understand the physics, but the simplification of his ideas would be fantastic to listen to and ask questions about.
If he were living now the men in black would likely arrive to keep him in line!
Fascinating how much of his ideas and information came to him while he slept.
Quote from: micjer on February 03, 2017, 12:53:31 AM
Fascinating how much of his ideas and information came to him while he slept.
Edgar Cayce was called the sleeping prophet because his readings were held while he was in a trance-like state 8)
Does make one wonder
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Quote from: micjer on February 03, 2017, 12:53:31 AM
Fascinating how much of his ideas and information came to him while he slept.
When we sleep it is our subconscious mind that does the work.
We have a saying that we use when making big decisions 'Let's sleep on it, decide in the morning"
'She said why don't we both just sleep on it tonight / And I believe in the morning you'll begin to see the light"
If you misplace something, 'sleep on it' and in the morning you will remember where you left it, because your subconscious mind doesn't sleep
In Esoteric sense it is during sleep that the body can astral project and access the Akashic Record
Quote from: ArMaP on February 02, 2017, 08:35:32 PM
One place I found the first image was an ATS thread from someone we know. :)
Flux Liner Revisited (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1153437/pg1)
Doesn't anyone find it a little strange that someone who has a working fusion reactor is posting on ATS and not a billionnaire?
Quote from: Pimander on February 06, 2017, 03:47:21 AM
Doesn't anyone find it a little strange that someone who has a working fusion reactor is posting on ATS and not a billionnaire?
Nah seems normal to me where free energy devices are concerned :P
Shakespeare (Sir Francis Bacon) said it well "Much Ado About Nothing" :P
Quote from: zorgon on February 06, 2017, 10:01:59 AM
Nah seems normal to me where free energy devices are concerned :P
Shakespeare (Sir Francis Bacon) said it well "Much Ado About Nothing" :P
Yep. Must not be too much to it or someone we know would have clammed up or been clammed up.
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Quote from: the seeker on February 03, 2017, 12:05:32 AM
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QqFi4pvugyU/hqdefault.jpg)
found this one here
http://yournewswire.com/uncovered-teslas-patent-for-worlds-1st-flying-saucer/ (http://yournewswire.com/uncovered-teslas-patent-for-worlds-1st-flying-saucer/)
That pic is also in Occult Ether Physics by William Lynn who was kind enough to correspond with me years ago...
http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/html-3/occult_ether_physics.htm
(http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/09-4/2occult_etherphysics.jpg)
(http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/ko/nikola-tesla-flying-saucer.png)
Bill told me about one craft he had witnessed:
"Seeing is believing. I saw several UFOs emitting negative corona in the
direction of travel. I know negative corona when I see it. It is the
purple, streaky discharges from a Tesla coil. And the cloudy positive
corona was on the bottom."
Cosmo
Thanks for bringing that to the table, Cosmo; I had forgotten about "Tesla and Lynn"...that has been several years ago now since I read any of his posts...
QuoteBill told me about one craft he had witnessed:
"Seeing is believing. I saw several UFOs emitting negative corona in the
direction of travel. I know negative corona when I see it. It is the
purple, streaky discharges from a Tesla coil. And the cloudy positive
corona was on the bottom."
Interesting... 8)
(http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/09-4/4occult_etherphysics.jpg)
Have you got this one built yet? :P
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