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#91
General Discussion Area / Re: Nick Bostrom: How AI will ...
Last post by RUSSO - December 18, 2023, 06:02:22 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on December 16, 2023, 05:13:30 PM

What do you mean with "when science is not enough"?

Some argue that certain technologies we have require more than just scientific knowledge to operate it effectively.

QuoteAnd being wrong is part of science, finding out what is wrong is part of what makes science advance.

Too bad that being wrong is sooo painful for some folks to recognize; they even prefer to look like fools. I know the paradigm has not changed yet, but still, what a lack of perspective from some of these "academics".



#92
General Discussion Area / Re: Nick Bostrom: How AI will ...
Last post by RUSSO - December 18, 2023, 05:54:30 AM
Of course that would be a need to know about your believes a little more as you can be a strong atheist or a weak atheist. When someone identifies as an atheist, it may not necessarily mean they actively believe that gods do not exist (strong atheism); rather, they might simply lack a belief in gods (weak atheism).

The distinction is subtle but crucial in understanding the diversity of atheist perspectives.
#93
General Discussion Area / Re: Nick Bostrom: How AI will ...
Last post by RUSSO - December 18, 2023, 05:49:25 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on December 16, 2023, 05:10:14 PM
No, I do believe in some things.

In fact, to be an atheist I have to believe that gods do not exist, right? ;)

Well, not necessarily. Being an atheist simply means lacking belief in gods; it doesn't necessarily require actively believing that gods do not exist ;)
#94
Breaking News / Re: more on Garry Nolan
Last post by RUSSO - December 18, 2023, 05:46:15 AM
Quote from: space otter on December 17, 2023, 06:35:04 AM
obviously i am playing catch up on this guy seems he's been around awhile


Catch up a little more for us, if I may ask. Post his achievements.

And there is a book from Diana Walsh Pasulka you may like. Dr Nolan is in that book.



I can try to send you a copy if you want.
#95
Breaking News / Re: i am in doubt of what we a...
Last post by RUSSO - December 18, 2023, 05:42:20 AM
Quote from: space otter on December 17, 2023, 06:30:21 PM

: one who makes a sales pitch or serves as a promoter

Or the one who is so threatened and afraid for his life, and more importantly, for his family and loved ones, that he has to use any media platform that is offered to him.

You know, this game has been running for quite a while, and it's become quite blunt. People die in this game. If I can make an analogy, this is the 'one ring' (conspiracy) that rules them all (other major conspiracies). But hey, this is a Catch-22, so...

No, I don't think he is a shill. He is a promoter, and everyone who wants the truth to come out owes him a beer.

So to Luis Elizondo, Chris Mellon, Harold Puthoff, Paul Hellyer, Uirangê Hollanda Lima, Olavo Fontes, Philip J. Corso , Jesse Marcel, Boris Sokolov and it goes on and on and on... the list is so extensive, it would be a pain to type it all.

So if he is the new one promoting disclosure, fine by me. Looks like this time the team disclosure learned some new tricks tho.

Looking foward for that OP-ED from David... I will post it right here.
#96
Breaking News / Re: i am in doubt of what we a...
Last post by space otter - December 17, 2023, 06:30:21 PM


for clarity


intransitive verb

1
: to act as a shill
2
: to act as a spokesperson or promoter
the eminent Shakespearean producer ... is now shilling for a brokerage house
—Andy Rooney
shill

2 of 2
noun
1
a
: one who acts as a decoy (as for a pitchman or gambler)
b
: one who makes a sales pitch or serves as a promoter
#97
Breaking News / i am in doubt of what we are b...
Last post by space otter - December 17, 2023, 03:08:12 PM


of course we are not alone..no question

but i am starting to think this guy is a shill.. i question how and why he is loose and talking
i think it is how they are starting to let the info THEY WANT YOU TO HEAR












i think it is always interesting how the breadcrumbs are tossed out to us and that we need to pull the curtain aside to see who is in charge of tossing those bread crumbs
2024  looks to be loud
#98
Breaking News / Re: Full Interview - Lance Co...
Last post by space otter - December 17, 2023, 06:46:16 AM

and
News Nation is hitting the subject hard
i'm not sure about thier line without bias or opinion.


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#99
Breaking News / more on Garry Nolan
Last post by space otter - December 17, 2023, 06:35:04 AM

obviously i am playing catch up on this guy seems he's been around awhile



also see
https://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=11703.msg157178#msg157178

Re: Full Interview - Lance Corporal Jonathan Weygandt (1997)
« Reply #188 on: December 13, 2023, 08:52:04 pm »

and

https://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=11703.msg157178#msg157178
Re: Full Interview - Lance Corporal Jonathan Weygandt (1997)
« Reply #190 on: December 15, 2023, 09:43:13 am »



Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens | Lex Fridman Podcast #262

4,745,101 views  Feb 6, 2022  Lex Fridman Podcast
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Wait, What? Dr. Garry Nolan REVEALS "Clear Evidence" Of Aliens
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Patrick discusses Stanford Professor Dr. Garry Nolan's Interview On 'The Good Trouble Show' where Dr. Nolan comments on his recent SOL foundation event, the UAP Amendment update, his take on disclosure of NHI & UFOs and his comment that "Clear Evidence" Of Alien Life Exists.


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#100
General Discussion Area / Re: Nick Bostrom: How AI will ...
Last post by ArMaP - December 16, 2023, 05:13:30 PM
Quote from: RUSSO on December 16, 2023, 09:57:24 AM
You have faith in science rigth? We were teach to have. What when science is not enought? Hipoteticaly of course. There is no way we got it wrong, right? :)
I do, but not because I was told to. In fact, whenever someone says that I must do something my natural instinct is to not do it. :D

What do you mean with "when science is not enough"?

And being wrong is part of science, finding out what is wrong is part of what makes science advance.