Wow, what is that?’ Navy pilots report unexplained flying objects

[space otter]

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'Wow, what is that?' Navy pilots report unexplained flying objects
Helene Cooper  9 hrs ago

WASHINGTON — The strange objects, one of them like a spinning top moving against the wind, appeared almost daily from the summer of 2014 to March 2015, high in the skies over the East coast. Navy pilots reported to their superiors that the objects had no visible engine or infrared exhaust plumes but that they could reach 30,000 feet and hypersonic speeds.

"These things would be out there all day," said Lieutenant Ryan Graves, an F/A-18 Super Hornet pilot who has been with the Navy for 10 years and who reported his sightings to the Pentagon and Congress. "Keeping an aircraft in the air requires a significant amount of energy. With the speeds we observed, 12 hours in the air is 11 hours longer than we'd expect."

In late 2014, a Super Hornet pilot had a near collision with one of the objects, and an official mishap report was filed. Some of the incidents were captured on video, including one taken by a plane's camera in early 2015 that shows an object zooming over the ocean waves as pilots question what they are watching.

"Wow, what is that, man?" one exclaims. "Look at it fly!"

No one in the Defense Department is saying that the objects were extraterrestrial, and experts emphasize that earthly explanations can generally be found for such incidents. Graves and four other Navy pilots, who said in interviews with The New York Times that they saw the objects in 2014 and 2015 in training maneuvers from Virginia to Florida off the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, make no assertions of their provenance. But the objects have gotten the attention of the Navy, which this year sent out new classified guidance for how to report what the military calls unexplained aerial phenomena, or unidentified flying objects.

Joseph Gradisher, a Navy spokesman, said the new guidance was an update of instructions that went out to the fleet in 2015, after the Roosevelt incidents.

"There were a number of different reports," he said. Some cases could have been commercial drones, he said, but in other cases "we don't know who's doing this, we don't have enough data to track this. So the intent of the message to the fleet is to provide updated guidance on reporting procedures for suspected intrusions into our airspace."

The sightings were reported to the Pentagon's shadowy, little-known Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, which analyzed the radar data, video footage, and accounts provided by senior officers from the Roosevelt. Luis Elizondo, a military intelligence official who ran the program until he resigned in 2017, called the sightings "a striking series of incidents."

The program, which began in 2007, was officially shut down in 2012 when the money dried up, according to the Pentagon. But the Navy recently said it investigates military reports of UFOs, and Elizondo and other participants say the program — parts of it remain classified — has continued in other forms. The program has also studied video that shows a whitish oval object described as a giant Tic Tac, about the size of a commercial plane, encountered by two Navy fighter jets off the coast of San Diego in 2004.

Leon Golub, a senior astrophysicist at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, said the possibility of an extraterrestrial cause "is so unlikely that it competes with many other low-probability but more mundane explanations." He added that "there are so many other possibilities — bugs in the code for the imaging and display systems, atmospheric effects and reflections, neurological overload from multiple inputs during high-speed flight."

Graves still cannot explain what he saw. In the summer of 2014, he and Lieutenant Danny Accoin, another Super Hornet pilot, were part of a squadron, the VFA-11 "Red Rippers" out of Naval Air Station Oceana, Va., that was training for a deployment to the Persian Gulf.

Graves and Accoin spoke on the record to The Times about the objects. Three other pilots in the squadron also spoke to The Times about the objects but declined to be named.

The pilots began noticing the objects after their 1980s-era radar was upgraded to a more advanced system. As one fighter jet after another got the new radar, pilots began picking up the objects but ignoring what they thought were false radar tracks.

But Graves said the objects persisted, showing up at 30,000 feet, 20,000 feet, even sea level. Then pilots began seeing the objects.

What was strange, the pilots said, was that the video showed objects accelerating to hypersonic speed, making sudden stops and instantaneous turns — something beyond the physical limits of a human crew.

Asked what they thought the objects were, the pilots refused to speculate.

[space otter]

      
ok now i figured this out..History channel is coming out with a new series
figures


U.S. NEWS 05/27/2019 10:40 am ET

U.S. Navy Pilot Reported 'Near Miss' With UFO Off East Coast
Navy pilots in recent years have discussed seeing "strange objects" with no visible engines or exhaust plumes flying up to 30,000 feet in the air.

By Dominique Mosbergen

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A pilot with the U.S. Navy almost collided with an unidentified flying object during a mission near Virginia Beach in late 2014, according to a New York Times report published Sunday. The UFO, which the Super Hornet pilot said resembled a "sphere encasing a cube," was one of many "strange objects" reportedly seen by Navy pilots in the skies over the East Coast between the summer of 2014 and early 2015.

Pilots said they reported these inexplicable sightings to Navy leadership.

The flying objects "had no visible engine or infrared exhaust plumes, but they could reach 30,000 feet and hypersonic speeds," several pilots told the Times. The objects were seen performing maneuvers "beyond the physical limits of a human crew" like turning instantaneously, the pilots said.

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No one in the Defense Department is saying that the objects were extraterrestrial, and experts emphasize that earthly explanations can generally be found for such incidents. But the objects have gotten the attention of the Navy. https://nyti.ms/2I0QubS

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Some of the sightings described by the Times have been reported on before. A declassified military video made public last March showed two Navy pilots being caught off guard after a flying object without a wing, tail or exhaust plume crossed their path in 2015.

"Wow! What is that, man?" one of the pilots is heard saying in the clip. "Look at that flying!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=wxVRg7LLaQA


The Times' article comes a month after the announcement of the Navy's new UFO policy.

The Navy said in April that it was updating and formalizing the process by which pilots can report unidentified or unauthorized flying objects. It did not believe that aliens had intruded into U.S. airspace, a Navy official told CNN at the time, but the Navy said in a statement that it had received "a number of reports of unauthorized and/or unidentified aircraft entering various military-controlled ranges and designated air space in recent years."

"These kinds on incursions can be both a security risk and pose a safety hazard for both Navy and Air Force aviation," the statement said. "For safety and security concerns, the Navy and the USAF takes these reports very seriously and investigates each and every report."

Lt. Ryan Graves, a Navy pilot who said he's seen these strange flying objects with his own eyes and has reported them to his superiors, told the Times that safety concerns were raised among members of his squadron following his colleague's close call with the UFO in 2014.

They feared that it "was going to be a matter of time before someone had a midair" collision, he said.

As the Times noted, neither Graves nor any of the pilots interviewed by the paper wanted to speculate as to the source of these flying objects. As one pilot quipped, "we're here to do a job, with excellence, not make up myths."

Some of the pilots' stories will be included in a new six-part History Channel series about the mysterious UFO program run by the Pentagon. "Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation" is slated to air beginning Friday.

[petrus4]

Why we need to adjust to the existence of UFOs.

This is interesting.  I got seriously burned out after watching Sirius, but apparently there is something happening which won't go away.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Do you honestly believe that the Navy or any other Government agency is going to let anyone say anything that 'they' don't want you to know?

[spacemaverick]

Do you honestly believe that the Navy or any other Government agency is going to let anyone say anything that 'they' don't want you to know?

I am a friend of a retired Harris engineer.  He doesn't say much but we talk.  He told me that what you see in the public eye is one thing.  He said that in the black area, figure things are ahead anywhere from 50 to 75 years.  He said he could not elaborate any further.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

I am a friend of a retired Harris engineer.  He doesn't say much but we talk.  He told me that what you see in the public eye is one thing.  He said that in the black area, figure things are ahead anywhere from 50 to 75 years.  He said he could not elaborate any further.

I'm sure that is the case, so they let things out to suit whatever agenda they operate under, which is exactly what I was saying.

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