Full Disclosure: Why Soon?

[petrus4]

I say the whole of the "Zionists vs. Islamists" is manufactured.

Eighth has an emotionally based vendetta, I've come to realise; and if there is one thing I've observed about emotionally based vendettas, it is that they never let an insignificant thing like logic stand in their way.  The problem with atheists, is that although this isn't always the case of course, they can have a greater tendency towards irrationality than other people in some cases; and this is because they presuppose that rationality in their thinking is a given, simply because they are an atheist.

We're not dealing with someone, here, who is objective; or who apparently has any interest in being such.  That in and of itself is fine; there are several topics about which my own perspective is almost purely emotionally based, and about which I can't claim to be remotely balanced, so I am certainly not going to criticise Eighth for that here.  If he was willing to consciously admit that, however, it would be appreciated.

Then again, he is right to an extent, as far as Jews vs. Muslims being the major conflict with the potential for becoming or starting a world war at the moment; well, assuming that you believe WW3 is going to happen, of course.  Still, the Jews vs the Arabs isn't the only issue that people have fought over.  There have been others, and if it was resolved now, there probably would be again.  So his point is still largely moot.

[Eighthman]

I suspect your reply is directed to a mirror.

I am not an atheist. (Pantheist).  I am widely known in my personal life for being unemotional, almost Spock-like. There is some evidence of Aspergers in my youth.

As to emotionalism, let all read here and freely judge the matter.   As to contrived disputes,  I am uncertain as to how much is human and how much is beyond our present control. 

and frankly, on this and other sites where I post,  I continue to be amazed at the sort of visceral reaction to deeper discussion of how UFO's interface with our world.  It does almost suggest something supernatural and , as such, might be used to argue against my hopes of Disclosure - as the human race is still not ready and  perhaps, never will be.

[Fruitbat]

Speak for yourself Eighthman, some of the human race is very ready for disclosure.

Even if they are small weird, telepathic, non-believers who smear pureed cowbum on their skin for dinner, and smell funny, I'm still up for it!

Admittedly it helped having seen all the public information materials, (star wars, start trek, starship troopers, stargate, galaxy quest, just to name a few) and it's good to know that if the aliens "cut up rough", that we (or a variant of the US airforce) will prevail, so I have no fear of disclosure or contact. Bring it ON!!

(To be fair, I'm not actually hoping for the fight, and in the light of my country's experiences of immigration of aliens,  I'd rather go and see them over in their habitats so PLEASE can someone either invent, or find me a  UFO drive system , large enough to drive my proposed shipping container based spacecraft? (just in case I fail in my own efforts, not likely, but I'd like some "insurance" :c)

I wonder how the aliens will take to motorcycling? Probably manage them little honda "monkey bikes" OK after a bit of practice...

If I ever have contact with aliens, (unless it turns out to be as boring as the reported immobilisation and anal probing) I think I will enjoy it, hugely.

FB!

[Littleenki]

Hehehe, the UK has become a melting pot filled with lots of curry and other fine flavors, eh Fruitbat?

I wonder what treats the aliens from space will bring to supplement our diets?

Le

[Pimander]

It does almost suggest something supernatural and , as such, might be used to argue against my hopes of Disclosure - as the human race is still not ready and  perhaps, never will be.

Now you're talking my language.

Forget everyone being told by the government ET is real for the time being.  For a start, deep within intelligence and several secret societies it is known that the UFO phenomenon and that of "ET" contact there is a reality that demands we completely re-evaluate the human take on consciousness and the universe in general.

How can the government just explain that and lying to us.  How often does "the government" come out and say, "Yep this scary thing is real.  We are completely powerless against parts of it, it can potentially harm us and our own origins are tied to it?"  Does the government admit complete powerlessness.  Not that I know of.  Look at history.  IT DOES NOT HAPPEN. EVER!

Yes, there are examples of nuts and bolt type UFO sightings.  Many are just deep black projects.  Some might be ET too.  However, a lot of the UFO and alien experience is tied up with high strangeness and consciousness.  Look at my avatar and you see my open hint.

[petrus4]

Hehehe, the UK has become a melting pot filled with lots of curry and other fine flavors, eh Fruitbat?

Exactly the point, LE.  I am aware of the fact that I ultimately made a fool of myself in this thread, and I will admit that.  My motivation, however, is that I am tired of seeing negative generalisations being made about entire groups of people; and more specifically, whenever said negative generalisation is made, the speaker always insists that they would never be capable of such behaviour, themselves.  It's always someone else...*those* people, over there, who are the guilty party.  Never us ourselves.

[Eighthman]

In life, one may get to a point at which things are so screwed up, you just long for something dramatic and wonderful to happen  - to save your butt.  This used to be "Armageddon", now it seems to be "Disclosure", for many people.

Yes, "I wanna believe"!... but realize that a case can be made for Disclosure coming long after we're gone.  As to Islam and its threats, I see that Turkey, Malaysia and Indonesia are doing wonderful things to integrate with the rest of the world while retaining a religious identity that they value. I can also see that Israel might make an eventual transition such as South Africa did.

So, I can see a lot of negatives about 'Disclosure Soon" but I keep looking for facts that trend otherwise, in hope......

I'd like to meet Semjase, too.  I'll bet she's really hot........

[Eighthman]

Oh, as to governments capitulating in surprizing ways, I would consider the example of how South Africa gave in to black majority rule.

The fact that they did still amazes me to this day, especially after the transition in nearby Zimbabwe was such a disaster - and post colonial governments throughout Africa are often little more than kleptocracies.  The relatively peaceful collapse of the Soviet empire comes to mind as well. How did that happen without some commisar grabbing a few nukes and going rogue?

Maybe somebody 'up there' likes us, afterall.

[Amaterasu]

Speak for yourself Eighthman, some of the human race is very ready for disclosure.

Hear, hear!