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MUFON and FAA reports deferred to Bigelow Aerospace

Started by Ellirium113, December 10, 2012, 06:25:06 PM

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Ellirium113

This is not going to help the case for disclosure...

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MUFON and the FAA have been bottlenecked for their UFO information regarding UFO and/or alien technologies and the funnel leads straight to the man himself, Robert Bigelow, who was recently confronted by Jesse Ventura on this very matter in Utah after Ventura's "Tru TV" crew investigated Robert Bigelow's "Skinwalker Ranch".

Yes, you just read that right, "Skinwalker Ranch" in Northeastern Utah. This facility is owned by Robert Bigelow and according to information leaked by a government official, "Skinwalker Ranch" is the site of a human murder in an encounter with aliens. During this battle one of Bigelow's security agents was allegedly killed.

Robert Bigelow has even bough in to MUFON on a secret level offering a $750,00 one year grant to siphoning information from their database hiding it from public view.

Why does this ultra rich man have such a fascination with this stuff?

Bigelow Aerospaces' official websites mission statement reads "Since 1999 our mission has been to provide affordable options for spaceflight to national space agencies and corporate clients. In 2006 and 2007, we launched our orbiting prototypes Genesis I and Genesis II. Using our patented expandable habitats, our plan is to greatly exceed the usable space of the International Space Station at a fraction of the cost by developing our next generation spacecraft."

http://www.disclose.tv/news/All_MUFON_and_FAA_Reported_UFO_Cases_Deferred_to_Bigelow_Aerospace/87318


Jesse Ventura Conspiracy Theory Season 3 Skinwalker episode


Privatization of this industry will prevent FOIA files from ever becoming unclassified.

Pimander

Quote from: Ellirium113 on December 10, 2012, 06:25:06 PM
Privatization of this industry will prevent FOIA files from ever becoming unclassified.
I can understand your concern if Bigalow were getting access to files that will never be made public.  Is that the case, or has he just purchased material that has never been classified?

I fail to see why Bigalow buying access to MUFON files has any bearing on when other documents may be declassified.


Ellirium113

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Quote from: Pimander on December 10, 2012, 11:19:57 PM
I can understand your concern if Bigalow were getting access to files that will never be made public.  Is that the case, or has he just purchased material that has never been classified?

I fail to see why Bigalow buying access to MUFON files has any bearing on when other documents may be declassified.

He has not bought access he controls all the flow of information on this...the flow does not go from him to the government it goes from them to him. He obviously does not control anything regarding black projects and FOIA issues will not arise from this. Once the files are turned over to the private sector they are not privy to disclose anything.  Think of it like a military contractor taking over the whole thing.

Pimander

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I see.  So it has no bearing on whether documents are declassified.  That is an entirely separate issue.

In what way is Bigelow controlling the flow of information?

QuoteThe following is from the U.S. Department of Transportation/Federal Aviation Adminstration website:Section 8. Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) Reports9-8-1. GENERAL a. Persons wanting to report UFO/unexplained phenomena activity should contact a UFO/ unexplained phenomena reporting data collection center, such as Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) (voice: 1-877-979-7444 or e-mail: Reporting@baass.org), the National UFO Reporting Center, etc.
http://sciencestage.com/r/dark-speculations-psy-ops-memes

That is simply the FAA trying to make credible the idea that UFO reporting is not in its remit. UFOs are the hot potato.  Nobody in government wants responsibility for PR reasons.  The FAA and USAF repeatedly say they are not interested in the UFO problem in general and they are only interested in specific incidents that are related to safety (FAA) or defence (USAF).

I am not saying that there has never been, or isn't still interest in the topic of UFOs.  However, saying, "report our UFO sighting to the UFORC (UFO Reporting Center) or Bigalows study," has nothing to do with it.




What most folks don't realise is that if the UFO data is held by parts of the government exempt from FOIA then it is still not going to be public domain.  Nor is information not stored with a paper trail.

ShotInTheDark

I've become heavily interested in the whole Bigelow UFO connection since the Skinwalker show appeared on Jesse Venturas Conspiracy Theory. Here's the actual link to the FAA Document which
is Section 8. Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) Reports

http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/atc/atc0908.html

The actual Document


Im also looking for accurate and good information besides what Glenn Campbell wrote about Robert Bigelows company he had with Bob Lazar called Zeta Reticuli 2 Someone on here has to have solid information I know that Element 115 and reverse engineering was the objective of the company but not to much more after that other then they closed after a few years. Im sure John Lear can shed light on here or Zorgon anyone Thank You   8)

zorgon

Quote from: Ellirium113 on December 11, 2012, 12:04:08 AM
He obviously does not control anything regarding black projects and FOIA issues will not arise from this.

A long time ago at a forum far away... there was an uber skeptic who turned out to be a real insider...  One day him and I talked via email... and in this talk the name MISTY came up  :D

When you figured that out you will see Bigelow right in there with those black ops secret spaceships  8)

Pimander

Quote from: zorgon on December 11, 2012, 10:34:42 AM
When you figured that out you will see Bigelow right in there with those black ops secret spaceships  8)
If you can see through the mist that is. ;)

Sgt.Rocknroll

Quote from: Ellirium113 on December 10, 2012, 06:25:06 PM
This is not going to help the case for disclosure...

http://www.disclose.tv/news/All_MUFON_and_FAA_Reported_UFO_Cases_Deferred_to_Bigelow_Aerospace/87318


Jesse Ventura Conspiracy Theory Season 3 Skinwalker episode


Privatization of this industry will prevent FOIA files from ever becoming unclassified.

One very important question. Can't they find any scientist that actually wash & comb their hair?

And do you think Mr. Bigelow, aka the 'rich bad guy' would allow a camera crew and Jesse (the dumb) Ventura to interview him?..Please....
Non nobis, Domine, non nobis, sed nomini Tuo da gloriam

Ellirium113

Quote from: zorgon on December 11, 2012, 10:34:42 AM
A long time ago at a forum far away... there was an uber skeptic who turned out to be a real insider...  One day him and I talked via email... and in this talk the name MISTY came up  :D

When you figured that out you will see Bigelow right in there with those black ops secret spaceships  8)

Interesting you mentioned that...In that video they mention "Black Triangle" craft seen at the Skinwalker Ranch. That set off a flag for me that they are involved in some of these black projects. I am skeptiacal that any of these black triangle type craft have anything to do with exotic alien technology. It will be interesting to see what further digging into this will turn up when I can get some more time.

Ellirium113

Well apparently these guys must have dug up some dirt...

QuoteHacktivist campaigners Team GhostShell claim to have stolen accounts from a number of organisations including NASA, ESA, the Pentagon and the Federal Reserve.


In "#ProjectWhiteFox", what the team says will be their last project for the year, the hackers appear to have targeted and stolen database records from companies and organizations including NASA, Bigelow Aerospace, Aerospace Suppliers, World Airport Transfers, the Credit Union National Association (CUNA) and a defense contractor for the Pentagon.The team claims that the latest campaign has resulted in the leak of 1.6 million accounts and records from different industry players.

The file dump, upon closer inspection, seems to include a number of records obtained via SQL injection. A random selection of the files contain email and home addresses, defense material tests and analysis notes, mailing lists, passwords and names. In addition, some file dumps also include administrator email addresses and accompanying passwords, telephone numbers, hashed passwords and database details of company suppliers in the aerospace and oil industries.


http://www.zdnet.com/team-ghostshell-takes-on-nasa-esa-pentagon-7000008558/

http://pastebin.com/agUFkEEa

I guess we'll have to keep an eye out to see if any of this data gets leaked.

Zelong

 I remember some of this Skinwalker Ranch there was multiple sightings of vortex's opening and Creates did come out and return some cameras fuzed out there was some dark night footage and Bob Bigelow closed the Ranch stationed guards. He than took over MUFON UFO sightings with a team on call ready to attend sightings.
He had paid $21Million for a discontinued design(Expandable Space Station Modules) for the ISS which was an Inflatable Station. Now He's getting $18Million to use them with the ISS, Expanding on Bigelow's inflatable module for the ISS http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/01/expanding-on-bigelows-inflatable-module-iss/
   
QuoteJanuary 12, 2013 NASA managers are set to provide details on the deal they have signed with Bigelow Aerospace for an inflatable module to become part of the International Space Station (ISS). The Bigelow Expandable Activity Module (BEAM) will be a vital testbed for future applications and may ride to the ISS inside the trunk of a SpaceX Dragon.

Zelong.