Edgar Fouche Comes Clean About Being A Liar And NSA Agent *VIDEO*

[Gigas]

I want to make something very clear here. Just because I know Jeremy Rys (AlienScientist) does not mean I support his Theories on 9/11 whatsoever and any other conspiracy theory about 9/11 for that matter.

And the video being referred to it was not scheduled I called Jeremy on skype we had not talked in a long time and he asked me if I could fill in on his weekly broadcast he lost a guest and I said sure and that was at about 5 to 8 minutes before the show I had been playing guitar.

Hey superstar, I saw all those rock god guitars and amp in the background. I didn't know you were a guitar rockstar. What a you all got there?

Peace bro............

[A51Watcher]

Dan -


You seem surprised by my comments and your various attempts at justification did nothing to address the issue.

So I will spell it out for you, exactly why several of us on Pegasus are curious about your words and deeds.


First there is the Dan we see on Pegasus -

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ShotInTheDark
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New Restoration Greetings!!!
« on: July 30, 2012, 07:14:11 PM »

  I recognize many people here I am formerly BigPappy51. He was demolished and was restored as ShotInTheDark

I want a fresh start and would like to say sorry to the following people and hope to squash any issues if we had any.

Bob Lazar your the real deal Im sorry for what I had written about you on another forum.  I was mislead but only have myself to blame for that I apologize.

To the great John Lear who I respect and admire bigtime John Your The Man!! And to Zorgon I really appreciate you giving me a chance to be myself again and not the shadow of another person!!!!  What a great forum Thank you all for having me    !!

DanB
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ShotInTheDark
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Re: Scandal Report
« Reply #74 on: August 10, 2012, 08:26:42 PM »

I have and asked for forgiveness from the people on this forum if I had ever pissed off anyone. I am here to start all back over again which is not easy but i have found a nice rhythm on here. I will make more posts on here in a month then I did the whole year on AS.

I deeply regret anything things I may had said or debunkings I may had been a part of.

I found out a formulas that seems to work. If you look at who Ed debunks the most like Lazar they are the real deal. Also Fouche has many accounts under different names where hes all over the internet talking about Lazar and Burisch but mainly Lazar.

The more I have seen and same with Primus it seems Ed stole Bobs story...


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Then there is the Dan we see making videos with his buddies (during the same time period as the above messages) saying the exact opposite.

Can you see why you appear a bit 2 faced?


We read your words on Pegasus, then hear completely different words in recordings with your buddies.

So have you recently discovered some amazing new information about Bob that has changed your mind that you neglected to tell us about, or, are you afraid to admit to your buddies that you have changed your mind about Bob, or were you just blowing smoke up our a ss the whole time here playing us for suckers?

[A51Watcher]

Another amusing point in your video with Jeremy -

You bemoan the fact that kids with 1 year under their belt watching YT videos think they know it all and try telling you whats what, whose views you find juvenile and lacking discernment, and also lacking your whole 10 years experience investigating.

What do you think those of us here with 50+ years investigating think of your views?

Bout the same.

We just don't make videos whining about it.

[A51Watcher]

And finally, I don't give a rats' ass if you or anyone else believes Bob. Help yourself. No skin off my nose.

As a matter of fact, 'Pass it around' as Bob says.

But for gods sake at least be on the level with me, and everyone else here.


Sinny doesn't like Bob either, for some reason even she can't put a finger on, but at least I can trust her to be up front with me and tell me the truth, and we agree to disagree.


And as for Bob himself, HE would now prefer you don't believe him, and to please pass it around!

He has a few messages aimed directly at debunkers in this additional video clip from the recent KLAS 25th anniversary special -


http://www.8newsnow.com/category/28259/8-news-now-video?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=10165200

[ShotInTheDark]

Hey superstar, I saw all those rock god guitars and amp in the background. I didn't know you were a guitar rockstar. What a you all got there?

Peace bro............

I ll email you some pictures I have a ton of gear amps guitars been playing 25 years. If you name the brand I either have or had it.

[ShotInTheDark]

Area51Watcher I can understand where you are coming from. Now lets get a few things straight here. When I was talking to Ed and saying about how we bashed Lazar this was in on Feb 2 2013. I had been thrown off the Alien Scientists Forum from Edgar Fouches directions to David Hilton and others was to eliminate me that was June 6 2012.

One of the reasons Ed wanted me gone is because I used my own moderation privileges and removed all bashing of anyone that I had done. To name the people I had bashed on The AS forum was Dan Burisch and Bob Lazar. And Ed got pissed and said I was going to ruin the forum so my mod privileges were taken and I was kicked off. Plus I was investigating Ed at the time because he has major holes in his story. David Hilton would you care to comment on Ed directing you to throw me off the forum??

Now we go ahead a month after I was thrown off I had asked Zorgon if I could come here I made amends with people involved and apologized that was back in July of 2012. Now by this time all the Lazar garbage I had written was all gone for sure from The AS Forum.

The part you speak about in the video took place in Feb of 2013 this is not a new video and I was referring to the bashing of Lazar and how Ed deserved payback because of the garbage he wrote about Bobs one wife on the AS forum which was threads that Ed wrote back in 2012 before I was kicked off the forum well before. Maybe I should not had said that but Ed was so drunk and who would had known this video would had become a topic.

To address The Alienscientist Video he and I have definitely had our own problems me him and David Hilton have all had our own problems but when we all sat down and discussed everything we found one common denominator who was pitting ourselves against each other we could write a book about all of thia ask David Hilton. Alienscientist I called him on a Saturday afternoon at 3:50 and he asked me if I could fill in on his weekly show because his guest bailed. We winged it I didnt know the topic till 5 minutes prior you can see I'm in my jamm room my amps and guitars are everywhere. I small comment is made at the end about the slices of 115 I'm guilty as charged I think I said why would they need to be machined when the model shows they are flat pieces. And I'm referring to the model of the Antimatter Element 115 reactor that John Lear has and displayed on UFO Hunters.

All I said in The video with Jeremy and he brought Lazar up not me is that about The Element 115 slices at the end of the video. I am well aware of the Bob Lazar videos of him at the Atomic Museum I posted them in several areas and thought it was cool. If it were not for Lazar in 1989 when I was in High School I don't know that my interest in UFOs would had been what it once was.

So yes I am guilty in the past in 2012 of attempting to debunk Bob Lazar. There is nothing written anywhere about Lazar that I have said since the forum that you can find I have said bashing the guy or attempting to debunk him. Bob says he likes the debunkers and wishes the story would go away.

On a sidenote my mother I had taken care of for the past 7 years or so passed away a few months ago and I haven't been posting because I'm just not into it anymore. Astro144 knows what I have been going through for the past several years taking care of my mother so she would not have to be put in a Nursing Home and others David Hilton Mark Woodson many others.

I will say this if you guys want me to I will resign from here and quit the forum if you think Im 2 faced you don't seem to understand the time frame correctly and thats not your fault at all. Like I said you cant find a forum that is after the date I was kicked off of AS where I badmouth Lazar look for it look on YouTube. The story has become rather boring to me and Ufology has so many liars and frauds that I have lost alot of my old interest I had. Sorry I don't have your 50 years experience you can have all the experience you want does that mean you are an expert ? No it doesn't none of us are.

You know I cant be too bad a guy when Zorgon was having Financial issues and had a GoFundme I gave him a donation and my friend Mark Woodson also he was a member here a while back and at the time I couldn't afford much but I knew he needed help so I gave and I will give again. What surprised me was he has this large forum and yet not many helped him Im glad to say I did. I cant be that bad a person.

I wish all of you well and thanks for having me here Zorgon and John Lear.
Take Care everyone.    Signing off
ShotInTheDark

[A51Watcher]

Dan -

Thanks for the clarification.

Again, all I ask is being up front regardless of what side of an issue your on.

Mocking Bob about the chips of E-115 was a much more recent video, so I of course was WTF?


Point of clarification - they had to be machined because E-115 comes in bricks, and need to be cut in slices and machined down to triangles.

Which the workers are told are for aircraft parts.


No need to resign, even if you don't believe Bob, that's not a crime around here.


As far as number of years of research under the belt, I was pointing out how from another perspective, you guys were the pot calling the kettle black.

Regarding Bob's education - he says they were erasing all his records, including education, past jobs, and even his birth certificate.

George Knapp found proof of some of this.

EG&G lied and said they never heard of him.

George found him right there in the company phonebook.

Current employees told George they knew him and remembered him working on the particle accelerator, just as he had told George.


Now how is a guy with no education going to be put to work on their behemouth multimillion dollar particle accelerator?

The erasure of past history was pretty thorough in most areas, just the lunkheads at EG&G forgot the phonebooks.


Anyway sorry to hear about your Mom.


Hope you recover soon.

[ShotInTheDark]

Dan -

Thanks for the clarification.

Again, all I ask is being up front regardless of what side of an issue your on.

Mocking Bob about the chips of E-115 was a much more recent video, so I of course was WTF?


Point of clarification - they had to be machined because E-115 comes in bricks, and need to be cut in slices and machined down to triangles.

Which the workers are told are for aircraft parts.


No need to resign, even if you don't believe Bob, that's not a crime around here.


As far as number of years of research under the belt, I was pointing out how from another perspective, you guys were the pot calling the kettle black.

Regarding Bob's education - he says they were erasing all his records, including education, past jobs, and even his birth certificate.

George Knapp found proof of some of this.

EG&G lied and said they never heard of him.

George found him right there in the company phonebook.

Current employees told George they knew him and remembered him working on the particle accelerator, just as he had told George.


Now how is a guy with no education going to be put to work on their behemouth multimillion dollar particle accelerator?

The erasure of past history was pretty thorough in most areas, just the lunkheads at EG&G forgot the phonebooks.


Anyway sorry to hear about your Mom.


Hope you recover soon.

Hey A51 watcher I appreciate that . Thank You . Its not that I don't believe Lazar parts of the puzzle dont fit. But my personal belief is he was a patsy shown technology to leak it to the world through John Lear if that makes sense to you.

I've been saying that for a while now its a controlled leak that fits. Bob would not had known. Also in the past 6 months I saw an interview with Col. John Alexander where he stated he found out Lazar was at Area51 for 22 Days and I was like what did he just say?? I have to try to find it.

Thanks for your kind words about my mother she was my hero I am still devastated by her passing and have been away from all of this for a while she had not been well and me and my one brother did everything to keep her home and not go in6to a nursing home and its been a tough last couple years very tough. ASTO144 knows he and I have had a number of private conversations.

I apologize again if I have ever offended anyone on here. That was never my intention. I came here with a new outlook get rid of Bigpappy51 create a new start with ShotInThe Dark and focus on The Charles Hall and The Tall Whites story which I find fascinating even if it turns out to be BS. I have also apologized to Zorgon and   John Lear when I first came back and I deleted anything I had ever written about Lazar on YouTube if someone finds anything let me know it will be gone quickly.

I guarantee you if Bob is proven right like Jeremy said in that video we will be the first to completely kiss his ... I hope he is right.

ShotInTheDark

[Sinny]

Its not that I don't believe Lazar parts of the puzzle dont fit. But my personal belief is he was a patsy shown technology to leak it to the world through John Lear if that makes sense to you.

I've been saying that for a while now its a controlled leak that fits.

My sentiments also...

[ShotInTheDark]

My sentiments also...

Have some gold my friend. I dont want anyone to hate me because of the puzzle and Bob own behavior and answers at The 1.5 hr video at "The Little Alien" I find very strange. I will say this I think Bob Lazar is brilliant I think he is a self taught nerd. Some of the most intelligent people I have ever worked with in the electronics field never had one day of schooling. Most of what you will learn is from tinkering around with different circuits or in Bobs case the guy had a Jet Car for goodness sakes you have to want an adrenaline high for this.



I will state again I think Bobs a genius for sure and also a perfect candidate for a patsy for the fact that his background is very controversial. So TPTB could debunk him if needed and when it backfired remember the CIA put out a memo saying they had been using the UFO story as a cover for many years to cover up classified programs.

One thing that I will say that none of you may have heard of before is this and I think Im accurate on this and I cant say why. What many have perceived as what is called MJ-12 is in fact  "The Department OF NAVAL Intelligence" Yes The DNI well many have said its "The Office of NAVAL INtelligence" The ONI yes their is an ONI .

The 2 DNI and ONI have absolutely nothing to do with each other at all. The ONI is Ultra secret and it is MJ12. How did Lazar know all the way back then that The DNI existed? He was told and there is the controversial W-2 which I find interesting.

[The Seeker]

Shot, sorry to hear about your mother; I lost mine 20 years ago after a 3 year battle with cancer...

As for Bob Lazar, I leave everyone to form their own opinions... but the man did build a particle accelerator in his backyard in Nevada, and has developed a hydrogen fuel system that will work on any vehicle that the PTB is blocking release of...

But I have seen one of his ID badges... is very similar to one I have(been expired since '09) that gave me access to quite a few places scattered across the south that I did work at...

I also wish to point out that many have made the statement that the PTB is more concerned about what you can prove, not what is just being discussed...


seeker

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

I also wish to point out that many have made the statement that the PTB is more concerned about what you can prove, not what is just being discussed...


seeker

Saying 'Hey there are UFO'S flying at A51', and taking someone out there to actually SEE a test flight, is not the same thing...the latter will definitely garner attention.

Rock 

[astr0144]

I am late in seeing the recent posts,
I have not read things in full as yet.. It may be later before I have fully caught up...

But ...I can see that a few things had been discussed between A51 Watcher and Dan (Shot in the Dark)...with regards to Bob Lazars story.

From what I recall, Dan has questioned certain things about the story and in my opinion has raised some very valid points and had spent quite some time and effort really trying to research the story..like he also did for the "Tall whites" which I also found very interesting.

Like many things hes been up and down on his views like we all are at times on various things...

I have appreciated his comments and queries and they have certainly made people think or question things..

At the same time as we have seen A51 Watchers work....after studying it...for me so far , it has given me more faith in Bobs story...which I will be honest and say I would be disappointed if it was at some time found to be untrue...For me its one of the best story's that I have come across.

But I appreciate seeing things asked about it.. and theories and queries about it...


The recent videos / images from the Video / Photo expert team/s has been remarkable in my opinion.

I do know that Dan has been going through a very difficult time in the last year or more and that he had not been posting too much as a result and could not possibly at certain times pay attention to some of the videos with his mind been so distracted.  He recently came back to PRC to try and get his mind of things....and for some time had not even answered any emails...I had not known what he had been going through for a certain time....I Hope that he can get over it and recover back to some normality if its ever possible in relevant time...

I hope you guys do not fall out about it...what ever happens..and can appreciate each others views..

[Gigas]

Ed got really mad at me once cause I was making trouble over at the nexus 2012 BS forum. It really wasn't trouble cause I was only demanding answers to why a thread about Dan Burish and somebody in his entourage being murdered, got deleted.

You can go over their for entertainment purposes if you dare and see the thread under Gigas and with your open mind see the battle that ensued and how I was gange banged about the thread. Truth be known the gang bang was the mods and they tried to stifle me so I had to throttle back my writings.

One of the light bulbs went off there at nexus 2012 and some one asked if I was the same Gigas over there at Alien Scientist forum and for my sake I never answered the question cause it doesn't matter where I was or have been see, cause I am acting in the here and now capacity of Gigas on the 2012 nexus network and not representing Alien Scientist.

So the network of behind the scenes nexus 2012 activity calls over to Alien Scientist to forensically match my IP at nexus 2012 to the IP Gigas was tagged with at Alien Scientist. AND, they matched. Of course they matched, why not, I had nothing to hide so what the F's the problem. Oh ya, I asked a question that got 2012 all in a bundle over my charming inquiry.

They didn't like that and soon enough I get an email from Ed at Alien Scientist asking WTF, thats our friends what are you doing. Well ya, their your friends, not mine and why are they draggin Alien Scientist admins into their s h i t. Of course, they wanted to shut me up thats why.

HAHAHAHA, what a day that was.