May Camelopardalids.new meteor shower: delight or dud

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sky otter


i read it somewhere   :P   that cosmo   :P   had mentioned this new shower..
i was just reading about it last night..hope it's a good one




http://news.discovery.com/space/asteroids-meteors-meteorites/dud-or-delight-new-meteor-shower-could-hit-us-on-may-24-140506.htm

Asteroids, Meteors & Meteorites

Dud or Delight? 'New' Meteor Shower Could Hit Us May 24

May 6, 2014 01:18 PM ET // by Ian O'Neill



Comet 209P/LINEAR as observed on on April 14, 2014. More information:
http://remanzacco.blogspot.com/
Ernesto Guido, Nick Howes, Martino Nicolini

GalleryCloseEncounterswithCometsView Caption + 
Meteors are created by particles — usually dust-sized, sometimes bigger — originating from comets (and sometimes asteroids), blasting through our atmosphere. Traveling at hypersonic speeds when encountering our atmosphere, these meteoroids cause an extreme buildup of pressure in front of them, driving ram pressure that generates extreme heating. This creates a visible trail, or "shooting star," often completely vaporizing the meteor.


Meteor showers occur when our planet orbits through the dust streams created by a number of well known comets. For example, Halley's Comet is the source of the Eta Aquariids and Orionids, in May and October, respectively.

If the May 24 "surprise" meteor shower shows up, it will be called the "May Camelopardalids," but forecasters are at odds as to how many meteors it will generate, if any.

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The problem, experts argue, is that although we know Earth will pass though Comet 209P/LINEAR's path, it is a path that was laid down in the 19th Century, over 100 years before the comet was discovered. We simply do not know if the comet was active back then — there is no observational data or reports of sightings. If it wasn't active, very little dust will have been released into space, making the Camelopardalids a non-event.

"We have no idea what the comet was doing in the 1800s," said Bill Cooke, head of NASA's Meteoroid Environment Office. "There could be a great meteor shower — or a complete dud."

On the off-chance of witnessing this "new" meteor shower, the best time to view the Camelopardalids is between 2 and 4 a.m. EDT (06:00-08:00 UT) on May 24 (Saturday morning). North America will be in a favorable position for viewing as the shower, if it happens, is predicted to occur in the early hours of the morning during darkness.

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"We expect these meteors to radiate from a point in Camelopardalis, also known as 'the giraffe', a faint constellation near the North Star," Cooke added in a NASA news release. "It will be up all night long for anyone who wishes to watch throughout the night."

Whether it happens or not, it will be worth staying up late to hopefully catch a glimpse a meteor shower our planet has never seen before. And best of all, you don't need any special equipment — just hope for clear skies, wrap up warm, lie back on a comfy chair and look up.

Sources: NASA, Remanzacco


sky otter



well it's this weekend , folks, if it happens   ???.. here's more info..even youie tubies for those who don't like to read..




http://www.mercurynews.com/science/ci_25798282/new-meteor-shower-peak-this-weekend

New meteor shower to peak this weekend

By Adam Poulisse, Los Angeles News Group
Posted:   05/20/2014 08:14:46 AM PDT | Updated:   about 13 hours ago


A never-before-seen meteor shower could provide a free show above all the holiday weekend activities.

The May Camelopardalids are expected to streak through the sky beginning Friday night and last into Saturday morning.

The meteors are a result of the Earth hurtling through the dust of comet 209P/LINEAR, which was discovered in 2004 and dates back to the 1800s. The Earth has never before passed through the comet's dust.

Though scientists are unsure how grand the Memorial Day weekend meteor shower will be, they say it could give sky-watchers a show that rivals the Perseid meteor showers in August.

Prime viewing time on the West Coast will be between 11 p.m. Friday and 1 a.m. Saturday. The moon will not be a factor: It's a waning crescent, and it won't rise until 3:20 a.m.

"Some forecasters have predicted a meteor storm of more than 200 meteors per hour," NASA's Meteoroid Environment Office lead Bill Cooke said in a statement. "We have no idea what the comet was doing in the 1800s. The parent comet doesn't appear to be very active now, so there could be a great show, or there could be little activity."

The event's name refers to the constellation Camelopardalis, the giraffe, but meteors will be seen in all areas of the sky.



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: http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-watch-the-camelopardalis-meteor-shower-2014-5#ixzz32PJz2Ym8


A Never-Before-Seen Meteor Shower Could Produce The Best Display Ever — Here's How To Watch
Dina Spector
May 21, 2014, 1:24 PM



A new meteor shower, called May Camelopardalis, is expected to peak in the early morning hours on Saturday, May 24, with some forecasters predicting more than 200 meteors per hour.

The shower happens as Earth passes through a stream of debris from Comet 209P/LINEAR, which makes a full orbit of the sun every five years. The comet was discovered a little more than a decade ago in February 2004.

Because the meteor shower has never been seen before, scientists don't know exactly what to expect. If the debris field is large, it could be a spectacular show (one that even rivals the Perseids in August).

It could also be a snooze-fest. "It all depends on how active the comet was more a century ago," NASA said in a video. That's when the streams of dust that Earth is now crossing were ejected by the comet.

The meteor shower gets its name because the space rocks appear to originate from the constellation Camelopardalis, also known as the giraffe, near the north star.

Viewing Times

The best viewing will be between 2 to 4 a.m. EDT, according to NASA. Folks in the Northern Hemisphere will have a better show — provided observers have clear, dark skies away from city lights — because the peak occurs during the nighttime hours.

"Because this is a new meteor shower, surprises are possible," NASA said. "Outbursts could occur hours before or after the forecasted peak."

12-2 am edt  west coast

1-3 am edt central u.s.

2-4 am Edt east coast


Where To Watch

If you can't step outside or weather conditions are poor, Slooh will live broadcast the shower, accompanied by commentary from a handful of meteor experts. The broadcast will begin at 11 p.m. EDT on Friday, May 23.



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didn't listen to the whole thing just grabbed it for the label of

REGION Are Alert: Comet Meteor in 209P/LINEAR ASTEROID FEMA












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and my favorite sky link

http://www.shadowandsubstance.com/



sky otter



here's more


http://phys.org/news/2014-05-webcast-comet-linear-meteor-shower.html



Live webcast of Comet LINEAR and new meteor shower, 23-24 May

May 20, 2014


On the night of May 23rd, a new meteor shower, now named the Camelopardalids, will appear in the night sky with potential to become a full meteor storm as debris from Comet 209P/LINEAR passes by Earth this month. Slooh will cover this possible meteor storm and the parent comet live as it nears Earth during its orbit. Slooh will broadcast the comet event from its telescopes located off the west coast of Africa, at the Institute of Astrophysics of the Canary Islands, on May 23rd starting at 3 pm PDT / 6 pm EDT / 22:00 UTC—and then will follow up with live coverage of the new meteor shower starting at 8 pm PDT/ 11 pm EDT/ 03:00 UTC (5/24). Viewers can watch free on Slooh.com and ask questions during the comet show by using hashtag #slooh on Twitter.

Discovered in 2004, Comet 209P/LINEAR will be approximately 7.6 million miles (12.4 million km) or about 32 lunar distances away on the night of May 23rd. The live image stream of Comet 209P/LINEAR will be accompanied by discussions led by Slooh host Geoff Fox and Slooh observatory director Paul Cox with special guests from NASA, including meteor expert and senior research scientist Dr. Peter Jenniskens and Asteroid Grand Challenge Program Executive Jason Kessler. On the broadcast, Slooh will be announcing exciting news for citizen astronomers worldwide.

The live meteor shower will be covered jointly by Slooh and NASA's Marshall Spaceflight Center in Huntsville, Alabama, and will be accompanied by expert audio from Slooh astronomer Bob Berman.

It's not every day that we experience a brand new meteor shower. After all, the most reliable showers, like the famous Perseids every August 11, have been observed annually for over two thousand years

Sure, there are famous sometimes-showers that occasionally perform but are mostly yawners. The greatest of these is the amazing Leonid shower. In the wee pre-dawn hours of November 18, 2001, it produced six brilliant green shooting stars each minute, nearly all of which left behind long lingering trails like Cheshire cat smiles. That was probably the best meteor display of the past half century.

But now, famed meteor expert Peter Jenniskens joins Russian astronomer Mikhail Maslov in predicting a rich new meteor shower created by passages through our celestial neighborhood of comet LINEAR. They think we'll get a rich enough shower to produce at least three or four "shooting stars" per minute. It will be a brand new event.

Other meteor experts are slightly more conservative, but still think we should see a solid display on the night of May 23-24, and the individual meteors could be unusually brilliant. All of this will unfold during a two or three hour period.

Of all places in the world, the United States and southern Canada alone will be best positioned to observe these brief and potentially spectacular fireworks. It should occur starting before 2 am local and last almost until dawn. It's even a convenient Friday night or, rather, early Saturday morning. The Moon will be a harmless crescent, so the sky won't be spoiled by bright moonlight. And of course, Slooh will be employing its special low-light, super-sensitivity equipment and other imaging techniques to bring the event to you live, in real-time.

As for direction, expect the meteors to emanate from the north, radiating from the very faint constellation of Camelopardalis the Giraffe, which will be located exactly beneath Polaris, the North Star.

Says Berman, "Those who live in the US or Canada, in a rural location away from city lights, or are willing to jump in their car and drive to such a place, and who have clear skies that night, should definitely watch the skies between 2 am EDT and 4 am EDT. We'll keep you updated in the days to come. But for now, mark your calendar to set the alarm the night of May 23-24, the early hours of Saturday morning. Start watching the sky, or tuning in to Slooh. This has the potential to be the most exciting celestial event in many years."


Explore further: Possible meteor shower May 23-24 as Earth passes through dust trail of 209P/LINEAR

More information: Link: www.slooh.com


Provided by Slooh Community Observatory

sky otter



kickin this up front.. i know it won't last long  but i hope some body checks it out besides me

COSMO

I was out several time last night and no shooting stars to report.  I did see about 6 of those same lights that I always see.  They look like moving stars, some brighter than others and no strobe.  One craft last night looked like a dim star, but would strobe once every 10 or 12 seconds and then it faded out of site overhead, like it had left the atmosphere.  It was headed south.  Lots of odd traffic last night.  Saw two of the moving stars headed north at the same time, almost parallel.  They are silent.  I know what a jet liner looks like, see and hear them all the time.  Not sure what these other lights are though.  Saw more last night than ever.  I have checked the internet for available satellite data, but never see anything in this area at those times.  It sure was clear!

Maybe tonight will be the night.  Should be clear here again.

Cosmo

And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

sky otter



well we were clouded over....grrrrrrrrrr..crossing fingers for clear tonight

sky otter




have you noticed that if they announce stuff it's a dud but the stuff they miss  crashes into russia
the latest is they are saying that was one meteor hitting another before crashing into russia...yeah right..like we believe that one



http://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/camelopardalid-meteors-put-weak-wonderful-show-n113846?ocid=msnhp&pos=7




Camelopardalid Meteors Put on a Weak But Wonderful Show

6 hours Science A composite view, created from several images, shows several Camelopardalid meteors emanating from their radiant point above Rondeau Provincial Park in Ontario. But the highlight of the image is the long bright streak, which captures the passage of the International Space Station through the sky during a long-exposure opportunity. "The ISS transit was quite a surprise," photographer Malcolm Park told NBC News.

By Alan Boyle
Any skywatchers whose hearts were set on a Camelopardalid meteor storm had their hopes dashed on Saturday morning: Most observers saw only a smattering of shooting stars when Earth passed through the trails left behind by Comet 209P/LINEAR.

But Peter Jenniskens, the meteor astronomer at the SETI Institute who predicted the meteor shower years ago, is looking at the bright side.

"I'm so excited that this shower actually happened," he told reporters. "It is one thing to predict there ought to be some dust there, but we had no information about this comet in the past."

Jenniskens said he and his colleagues saw about 12 of the meteors overnight during a two-hour aerial observation campaign in the skies over California. The meteors are dubbed Camelopardalids because they appear to emanate from a little-known northern constellation called Camelopardalis (the Giraffe).

The reports posted to the International Meteor Organization's website ranged from less than five meteor sightings per hour to more than 20. (My own tally worked out to five Camelopardalids and two other meteors in the course of an hour and a half, as seen from a spot between Cle Elum and Ellensburg in Washington state.)


The Seeker

watched for a bit last nite but didn't see anything, sky...

like you, they predict dust but miss one the rocks russia?


riigghhtt................

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Had the Camera ready and set up for night recording...Not a thing in the NE-USA with partial cloud cover.


COSMO

I missed it, unless they were dark matter meteors...lol

It was a little hazy with a few light clouds, but between the clouds I could see stars, but that's all.

I'll make sure to mark this one on my calendar...or maybe not...lol

I do have a feeling that we will be seeing more impressive displays in the night sky in the days to come.

maybe something like this...



Cosmo
And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

COSMO

Meteor Storm Not Over: Watch For Comet Caboose Weds:

If you're bummed about missing the show, you might still be able to catch the tail end.

Provided it's clear enough on Wednesday, it should be visible in the north sky with a consumer model 3-inch-reflector telescope. If you're ill equipped to see it, watch the celestial eye goodies unfold live. Also, if you'd like to plan ahead for more atmospheric awesomeness, mark your comet calendars for Perseid meteor shower – which is in August.

But just in case – you might check the skies tonight. Phillips suggested the spectacle might have fallen short of Earth shattering because perhaps the main event has yet to come. He said, "Another possibility is that the shower is not a dud, just delayed," and then went on to add, "If models mis-located the debris zone, an outburst could still occur later on May 24th."


So...keep looking, we may still see a shower, and if you have a telescope you can check out the comet!

Keep looking up!   ;D



Cosmo


And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

COSMO

I checked a few times last night.  It was clear, but quiet.  Did see one odd light.  It was almost over head, a little east.  I looked over head and it blinked once and then was gone.  That was it, one blink.  I could see stars in that same area of sky, so it didn't go behind a cloud. 

Cosmo 
And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

sky otter




cosmo
sounds like you get the same kind of air traffic that we do..
no meteors here either


oh well i guess we wait for august for a show