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Are The Russians Ramping Up For WWIII?

Started by burntheships, September 12, 2014, 04:59:19 AM

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Pimander

I agree it is an entertaining watch.  Thanks mate.

burntheships

This one has a lot of visual,a stealthy 20 minute climb up
the woodpecker.... very quiet, yet better shows the size of that thing.


(fixed video)  ;)
"This is the Documentary Channel"
- Zorgon

astr0144

Vladimir Putin Has Been Planning World War 3 For The Last Decade, Former Adviser Says

Vladimir Putin has been planning for the past decade a plan to spark a major war in the Baltic region, a former adviser to the Russian president said, with the invasion of Ukraine and capture of Crimea the first step.

Speaking at a conference in Lithuania, former presidential adviser Andrey Illarionov said Putin has been planning for a major war since at least 2003.

Illarionov referred to a 2008 article from Russian Journal that outlined a plan for Russia to attack Crimea, moving westward until the capital of Kiev was captured.

"As we see, not only were they preparing, they were publishing it," Illarionov said.

The former adviser noted that in the past Vladimir Putin said Ukraine is not a real nation, but instead a state that has historically belonged to Russia as well as Hungary, Poland, and Romania. He notes that the latest conflict was sparked when Putin started talking about the "Russian world" during a ceremony honoring Slavic groups.

As the Lithuanian Tribune noted, Putin may have plans to invade nations beyond Ukraine.

According to the former presidential adviser, Russian laws essentially define four categories of 'Russians': ethnic Russians, irrespective of whether they reside in or outside Russia; Russian-speakers, irrespective of their nationality; all former citizens of the Soviet Union and their offspring living in the territories formerly covered by the USSR; and former citizens of the Russian Empire (pre-1917) and their offspring living in the territories once covered by the Russian Empire.

"'Such a legal base allows the Russian army to protect all the Russians listed in the law. Therefore, for the Russian side, such actions of the Russian army beyond Russian borders might seem completely legitimate,' Illarionov says."

There have been past reports that Vladimir Putin plans to spark a wide conflict. Earlier reports claimed that he threatened to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine if the fight continued, and sources say he boasted that Russia could reach Kiev in two weeks if they wanted to.



Read more at

http://www.inquisitr.com/1501954/vladimir-putin-has-been-planning-world-war-3-for-the-last-decade-former-adviser-warns/#Y3F7KrFIHude8eHs.99

spacemaverick

A lot of what is being done by all sides is being done out in the open and the general populace of many countries have no idea the agenda of Russia or any other dictators until they get conquered or controlled.  Russia in the past had a buffer zone and now I believe they are doing it again.  Are they ramping up for WW 3...I don't know.  For my country, America, I saw a movie called "Agenda Grinding America Down" which was very interesting to me.  I also am classified as a Baby Boomer and I remember what was translated from Nikita Khrushchev about burying us without firing a shot.  I realize that the translator may have taken some freedom with the translation but the thought was probably about right.  The movie I am talking about regarding "Agenda" made sense to me.  The author was a US Representative.  He put it on facebook for awhile and then removed it.  It is now on you-tube and is aimed at Americans specifically.  It might enlighten you all if you keep an open mind as to Russian political ideals.  If you cannot change the minds of people through covert means then you may have to resort to overt means which can work against you.  Putin is no different from any other despot...just uses his own tactics.
From the past into the future any way I can...Educating...informing....guiding.

astr0144

Russian FM issues blistering attack on US, NATO

It would still seem utter madness if Russia was planning WW3 with the weapons and technology that is all around the World today.... and its still hard for me to try to comprehend are all these leaders placed in the positions by some elites to play a Chess game for their masters...or are some really in their positions to be real leaders who take what actions they seem fit to benefit their countries ...

Heres another article with ref to Russia and the west &  Nato ....


The Russian foreign minister issued a blistering attack on the West and NATO on Saturday, accusing them of being unable to change their Cold War "genetic code" and saying the United States must abandon its claims to "eternal uniqueness."

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Sergey Lavrov's assault appeared to be an extension of the increasingly anti-Western stance of Russian President Vladimir Putin, who is riding a wave of popularity at home with his neo-nationalist rhetoric and policies.

Speaking at the United Nations General Assembly, Lavrov said the crisis in Ukraine was the result of a coup d'etat in that country backed by the United States and the European Union for the purpose of pulling Kiev out of its "organic role as a binding link" between East and West, denying it the opportunity for "neutral and non-bloc status."

Lavrov also said the Russian annexation of Crimea earlier this year was the choice of the largely Russian-speaking population there. Former Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev transferred control over the strategic Black Sea region to Ukraine from Moscow in the 1950s.

While the rhetoric was tough, Andrew Weiss, a top Russia expert at the Carnegie Foundation, said the Lavrov speech "hewed closely to themes the Russians have put forward throughout the Ukraine crisis."

Immediately before Lavrov spoke, the German foreign minister said Russia's actions to retake Crimea were a crime.

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Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier, of Germany, addresses the 69th United Nations General Asse ...
"Russia has, with its annexation of Crimea, unilaterally changed existing borders in Europe and thus broke international law," Frank-Walter Steinmeier said in his address to the world body. He spent considerable time speaking about what the West sees as Russian meddling in Ukraine, a nation on the verge of bankruptcy after a series of corrupt post-independence regimes.

Lavrov made no mention of Western allegations that Russia has sent troops and heavy weapons into eastern Ukraine in support of pro-Russian rebels there who have taken over a number of key industrial cities after the ouster of former pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovich. His departure followed months of demonstrations against his corrupt rule.

Russia routinely denies its forces are involved.

Lavrov rejected that Western economic sanctions would cause Russia to reverse course on the issue of Ukraine.

"Attempts to put pressure on Russia and to compel it to abandon its values, truth and justice have no prospects whatsoever," Lavrov said.

The regime has been using the sanctions in a propaganda drive to build support at home, creating anger against the U.S. and Europe as a distraction from the pain that Russia's citizens absorb from the punitive measures.

The Kremlin's growing anger with the United States and Western Europe springs from long-standing and bitter complaints over the past two decades about NATO expansion into former Soviet satellite nations in Eastern Europe and some Baltic nations, once Soviet republics. Lavrov insisted Russia was promised, after the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, that the expansion would not occur.

There now is a cease-fire, though routinely violated, in eastern Ukraine. Lavrov and other Russian officials now say they believe a settlement is possible, given the wobbly cease-fire and new Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko's decision to delay implementation of the country's economic association agreement with the European Union.

But, Lavrov said, the Ukraine crisis should be a lesson to Washington and NATO against trying to break "the deep-rooted and fraternal ties between the two peoples" of Russia and Ukraine.

http://news.yahoo.com/russian-fm-gives-blistering-attack-us-nato-175348984.html


astr0144

World War 3 coming soon? U.S. threatened by a 'nuclear' Russia, West will lose?

This is an article from the Examiner website...
Maybe often a misleading website, but It seems to refer to other things being mentioned elsewhere...
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Is a real World War 3 coming soon? Some media sources are claiming that a major nuclear war may be on the horizon due to continued tensions between Russia and the U.S. nation. The Epoch Times reports this Thursday, October 16, 2014, that the U.S. and other powers in the Western hemisphere are being "threatened" by Vladmir Putin, the Russian president. What's more, at least one political expert is asserting this week that the West would lose if violence did erupt.

Due to the recurring political strife in Ukraine, ties between the U.S. and Russia are at a fever's pitch. Yet is it truly possible that World War 3 may come about because of it in the near future? Vladimir Putin recently released a statement affirming that his country nor his people will allow themselves to be blackmailed by opposing nations, threatening the Western powers that serious consequences may result — including nuclear ones.

Battles between certain pro-Russian forces and Ukrainian nationalists are at the source of this dispute, with the land now divided and ravaged by internal conflict. Although Russia is staunchly refuting any claims that they are offering militaristic support or fighting troops to back these rebels, European and U.S. officials are still authorizing anti-Russian sanctions on leaders. It is suspected that Putin may be lying, an allegation that the Eastern is not tolerating.

According to a new statement from Putin provided in Politika, a newspaper situated in Serbia, these sanctions are simply unreasonable and aren't intimidating him in the slightest. The foreign president's mentioning of nuclear powers is what spurred the new World War 3 talk and even fears of massive warfare coming soon.
"We hope that our partners will realize the recklessness of attempts to blackmail Russia, will remember the risks that a spat between major nuclear powers incurs for strategic stability ... For our part, we are ready to develop constructive cooperation on the principles of equality and real consideration of mutual interests."

Of course, offers the Pak Observer News earlier this week, this isn't the first time that Vladmir Putin has made such threatening statements. The leader of Russia was recently heard affirming to a number of young people that the West should take caution in not interfering with them, adding ominously:

"Thank God, I think no one is thinking of unleashing a large-scale conflict with Russia. I want to remind you all that Russia is one of the leading nuclear powers."

Who, then, is to blame for this strife-ridden conflict in the Ukraine and impending discussion of a potential World War 3? In Putin's skewed view, it's the U.S and other Western powers at fault. These ongoing sanctions are only worsening an already heated matter.

"Attempts to pressure Russia by means of one-sided, illegitimate restrictive measures are not bringing us towards a resolution, and are complicating dialogue," the president said. "How can one talk about striving for de-escalation in Ukraine if new sets of sanctions are being introduced almost at the same time as agreements to promote the peace process are reached?"


http://www.examiner.com/article/world-war-3-coming-soon-u-s-threatened-by-a-nuclear-russia-west-will-lose

Sinny

We need to determine if Putin is a 'Crypto Jew' or not - Is he serving the Zionist agenda, or the Russian Orthodox Agenda?

That is a key question.

Obviously, the ZOG in the West is trying for war, that's their plan.... But what is Mr Putins?
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

Wrabbit2000

Quote from: Sinny on October 23, 2014, 01:59:30 PM

Obviously, the ZOG in the West is trying for war, that's their plan.... But what is Mr Putins?

I think Putin is on his own side and looking at a different world for his and Russia's future. His motivations are not that hard to see, either. He was groomed into being an Intelligence Officer for the Soviet KGB in his teens, then retired from that as a Colonel and 2nd in command to the East Berlin station just before the wall came down. So he was in the upper levels of the communist party and system when it imploded.

Not so bad, perhaps, if the West hadn't gloated and spent a few years doing it. Winning wasn't enough. We had to rub it in..and in..and in. I think the men who were in high levels of the Soviet system to see everything they knew and believed in destroyed, never forgot it. Watching their noses rubbed in it, is something they never forgave. Now Putin sits in a position of some strength to a pronounced weakness across American establishment. The last opportunity like this didn't last and came 35 years ago. It may be a generations or more before this kind or weakness and disarray across American government happens again. So....If nations in the world want to move without U.S. response quick enough to stop it? This may be a short term and closing window of opportunity. (The Balkans and Russia are just one area I worry about with that)

Think of the shift between Carter and Reagan. Putin was an officer by then, and lived that from the pointy end of the spear. We're in the Carter phase now, by comparison. If he doesn't move before the Reagan phase comes (or America's political pendulum swings back, as it always does) then opportunity may be lost entirely, short of a war beyond the scale anyone wants to fight.