Another Project Blue Beam? Moon Hologram?

[adomaniac]

That's definitely more plausible than the hologram theory, I think, but we still face the problem of the moon's gravitational forces being measurable. The tides are only the most noticeable effect, but you can actually run the calculations yourself and get the same number we see in textbooks.

[Lunica]

....with a projector on the moon that puts on a holographic skin to hide what is really there?...

Like that time someone looked at the moon with an telescope and for some time the "cloak" was gone.

[zorgon]

...but we still face the problem of the moon's gravitational forces being measurable. The tides are only the most noticeable effect, but you can actually run the calculations yourself and get the same number we see in textbooks.

Back in the Apollo days Werner von Braun gave figures for the moons gravity different from what they tell us today. He based his figures off the RECORDED values of when the Apollo 8 spacecraft passed the Neutral point

I do not know how that effects tides but it does fit with what we saw in the Apollo videos compared to what the test rigs on Earth were supposed to be like on the moon. Skeptics say it was the bulky suits but what we were told in comics and sci fi books and what NASA showed us at Langley befoe they went was completely different from what we saw on the moon

NASA then sent a NEW mission to study gravity on the moon

GRAIL - Gravity Recovery and Interior Laboratory
Launch Date: September 10, 2011

Seems they needed to re calculate the gravity on the moon

We covered all this... somewhere   

[adomaniac]

What I meant was simply that you don't have to take their word for it. YOU can calculate the mass of the moon yourself and see that it's a planetary-scale object, not a hollowed-out shell or a projection.

[zorgon]

What I meant was simply that you don't have to take their word for it. YOU can calculate the mass of the moon yourself and see that it's a planetary-scale object, not a hollowed-out shell or a projection.

Pretty sure its not a projection Before he passed Jack Arneson bounced a laser off the moon AND located the missing Russian Lunar rover 

But if its a ship with gravity drives  that would be a game changer.  Not saying it IS but this is a conspiracy site

[adomaniac]

Pretty sure its not a projection Before he passed Jack Arneson bounced a laser off the moon AND located the missing Russian Lunar rover 

But if its a ship with gravity drives  that would be a game changer.  Not saying it IS but this is a conspiracy site

Right, there could always be ways of faking the mass of a huge object like that of which we're not aware. But you're spot on about the lasers, you can actually do that yourself if you have the right equipment. There are amateur astronomers who do it pretty regularly.