Why have we gotten away from UFOLOGY?

[zorgon]

There is one main problem in all this

It is the REASON I started Pegasus in the first place.

There is so much information out there... it is IMPOSSIBLE to go through it all even with a dedicated team

The purpose of Pegasus was to gather a group of like minded people to research these topics and present the data in order so it makes sense

You can look at any ONE item that pops up... If you look at that item by itself, it can a lot of time be easily dismissed or debunked. This is what most skeptics do  they count on this  Attack the item ignore the connections

My 'claim to fame' as it were comes from the ability to collect all the small pieces and assemble the puzzle to see the big picture. If an item is false or plain BS it will not fit into the puzzle, There will always be some point that won't fit no matter how much you force it. These items usually trace to a single dead end source yet are cloned all over the net

But when you do get a piece that fits, then the problem starts  In the process of verifying that piece it leads you to ever more pieces  In the end you can get lost and lose the tree in the jungle.

This has happened many times with people that have volunteered  They start down a path and get lost literally They become boggled and when they start getting to dot mil doors they suddenly realize "OMG this is real!"  At this point many are scared off  Not so much from the dot mil site but from their own realization that what they only though might be a possibility is now a cold hard fact


So the ONLY way to reseaerch is take ONE target and focus on it and follow the trail of crumbs

The reason Living Moon is such a jumble is because the data came in so much faster than I alone could process it. Jack Arneson passed away in October  I didn't know till January yet I was chatting with him on FB before the holidays  I still have over 800 emails from him with data not yet processed

JKROG08 was going to be our UFO guy  He too passed away and now Karl12 has stepped into those shoes. While that info is all here in the forum, I have yet to find the time to move it to the website where people can see it

Russ Hamerly Boeing senior exec  several hundred emails not processed

Get the picture?

And the other problem is NO NEW INFORMATION on UFO landings sightings etc that cannot be easily debunked or explained as critters,  Si did the aliens just stop visiting right now? or was it all in our heads? 

[spacemaverick]

My research started with Ancient Aliens and over the years I saw the evidence pointing more towards Lost civilizations of Earth   From the Rosicrucian and Tibetan thinking we are the 5th civilization The 1st was a race of giants.  I still need to get all that posted I wish I had an assistant here

Wish I had the time to help you....my job keeps me busy even though I am retired from my main job...still working full time.  Past civilizations fascinate me because they have had a profound influence on us!

[rdunk]

Zorgon said, "Now here is the problem. If we are the 5th civilization, where is all the EVIDENCE? Surely something would have survived"?

For sure, if there is any evidence, it could be anywhere! But, with the Earth's surface covered about 70% water don't you imagine there could just be a lot of undiscovered "evidence" out there?? And that would be more the case, if much of what surface is covered by water was in earlier times "dry land!! We did just recently see here evidence of new discoveries of marble statues/civilization artifacts being brought up from under the surface waters.     

         

[Pimander]

It started with Ray Palmer! 

[zorgon]

For sure, if there is any evidence, it could be anywhere! But, with the Earth's surface covered about 70% water don't you imagine there could just be a lot of undiscovered "evidence" out there?

Most certainly. That was my point that we are pushing it further back in time  Now I know some religions don't want to 'go there' but Goebeki Tepi was a very recent find And the detail of the carvings is PRE pottery PRE tools  so SOMETHING is wrong  It was also completely cleaned out and deliberately buried 9000 years ago. No sign of any inhabitants or worker buildings  nothing  just intricate carvings...

And that would be more the case, if much of what surface is covered by water was in earlier times "dry land!! We did just recently see here evidence of new discoveries of marble statues/civilization artifacts being brought up from under the surface waters. 

Dwarka in India  uncovered from the sea floor after the Tsunami in Sumatra 2004

Neopolis Lost Greek city that may have inspired Atlantis myth gives up secrets
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2009/oct/16/lost-greek-city-atlantis-myth

Heracleion  Sunken city gives up its treasure: Ancient Egyptian metropolis lost for 1,200 years below Mediterranean sea set to go on display
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2336723/Ancient-Egyptian-city-lost-1-200-years-begins-reveal-secrets.html

Like I said TOO MUCH DATA    

[petrus4]

But these are not Alien space craft. They are plasma life forms native to earth.  Many scientists are starting to realise this  Just google Plasma Life Forms....

I would be more likely to consider them sylphs or electrical elementals, personally.  Sounds crazy, perhaps; but as far as I'm concerned it's no more crazy than the idea of a being that is pure lightning or plasma, and it also fits into an established framework of belief and experience about such beings.

15%ish are our black ops (I include ALL the triangles in this... they are a human develpoment)

I don't.  Bashar's ships are triangular, and while not often, he has arranged scheduled sightings for people before.

I have a hunch that Venus was not the home world

This is another element where ceremonial magick can provide an explanation.  All of the planets in our solar system have associated humanoid planetary intelligences.  They just aren't corporeal, or physically based.  If you know what you're doing, you can call them up and talk to them.

1) ALL the government agencies around the world have released their UFO files online.  That is PROOF POSITIVE that they did in fact study this phenomena all those years they denied it.

The reason why they want people to believe in ET life now, is because ET is going to be the next primary campaign antagonist after Islam.

[Toltec]

It is clear that they are biological. The universe is huge and really know very little, maybe NASA knows much more ....

[zorgon]

I would be more likely to consider them sylphs or electrical elementals, personally.

Well many UFO;ogists and scientists have come to the same conclusion that a lot of what we saw as ghosts, paranoral entities and electric elementals are simply plasma life forms. Main stream science has shown that plasma exhibits life like tendenacies and the Russians found that plasma in space forms a double helix  In effect there is more evidence and hard data for the Critter hypothesis than Alien craft

As for the sylphs  Those are different in my opinion Since they can be summoned and appear as Dragons more often than not  I class sylphs as Nature Spirits in the realm of Elves Fairies and Dragons...  I am sure these sylphs are responsible for many ancients gods

The sy;plhs have form  they have eyes that look back at you... The plasma critters are glowing orbs.

I have a hughe collection on the website of the sylphs and other nature spirits  but here is one looking at you...   The photographer didn't notice till I pointed it out



HERE THERE BE DRAGONS



On another forum many Moons ago a person by the name of DiverDown, after seeing my info, went out that same day to summon a dragon....

THIS is what appeared 



For those who cannot see it instantly  here is the closeup with a little contrast 



Skeptics will say "Pareidolia!!!" and puff their chest with how smart they are but these are real  They are THERE They can be summoned and even my uber skeptic wife came outside one day while my daughter and I were photographing one... she looked up and said "OMG that's a dragon!" 

Well THIS one won international awards and there was no doubt to anyone seeing it what it was




To me this cartoon represents the failed miserable boring life of NAYSAYERS 

Sounds crazy, perhaps; but as far as I'm concerned it's no more crazy than the idea of a being that is pure lightning or plasma, and it also fits into an established framework of belief and experience about such beings.

Ghosts etc have always been identified with a type of plasma - Exoplasma (Ectoplasm)  so it is likely that the old "established framework of belief" is merely not in possession of all the facts.  Ghost Busters used Plasma Weapons

In either case they are not Alien Space craft Jacque Vallee, Robert Bigelow, NIDS The Aviary group  some of the many that were considering the plasma/ interdimensional viewpoint

I don't.  Bashar's ships are triangular, and while not often, he has arranged scheduled sightings for people before.

Well call up this Bashar and arrange for a scheduled sighting. Maybe we can sell some seats to a real appearance and blow Greer out og the water Until then... the triangles are human ingenuity

This is another element where ceremonial magick can provide an explanation.  All of the planets in our solar system have associated humanoid planetary intelligences.  They just aren't corporeal, or physically based.  If you know what you're doing, you can call them up and talk to them.

OR as Lobsang Rampa and other Tibetans will tell you  you could be talking to Mischievous Imps that tell you what you want to hear.  This has happened so many times with Channelers getting promises only to be left holding the bag. You have NO WAY to verify that the entity you are speaking to isn't a trikster like LOKI

On Criminal minds they had a serial killer that was talking to God...  Rossi looked at him and said "Does it make sense that God is telling you to kill? Could it not be the Deceiver?"  At this the perp broke down and cried....  Christians believe that God speaks to certain people, they make them Saints  but is someone said "I spoke to God yesterday.." The mock that person and call him Lunatic...  Go figure

But again... you have no way to verify that the one you channeled is who or what they claim

The reason why they want people to believe in ET life now, is because ET is going to be the next primary campaign antagonist after Islam.

The CIA has ALWAYS maintained that the UFO-Alien belief phenomena is a great cover story if anyone gets into their black op programs. This is in official CIA documents kept in public at the DTIC.MIL library and taught at the AF War College. Perhaps this is why they can say "UFO's pose no threat" and close the cases.

Will be interesting to see how they reverse that for a false flag alien invasion

[spacemaverick]

Obama adviser John Podesta's biggest regret: Keeping America in dark about UFOs

http://news.yahoo.com/outgoing-obama-adviser-john-podesta-s-biggest-regret-of-2014--keeping-america-in-the-dark-about-ufos-234149498.html

"It's time to find out what the truth really is that's out there,"  he said. "We ought to do it, really, because it's right. We ought to do it, quite frankly, because the American people can handle the truth. And we ought to do it because it's the law."


Since when has any administration followed the law.....