NASA to Announce 'Surprising' Europa Discovery - Maybe It Is Europa Moon Pie

[Pimander]

If it does have a water like ocean, I wonder how deep it may go and how the water may compare to that on Earth...Is it salt water..or more pure..

If the water is resting on the crust like on Earth then that is extremely interesting.

Basically, we suspect that life may have been triggered by reactions that are likely where there is water, rock and possibly lava....

[rdunk]

If the water is resting on the crust like on Earth then that is extremely interesting.

Basically, we suspect that life may have been triggered by reactions that are likely where there is water, rock and possibly lava....

Isn't it "basically" a fact that if one does not believe that God started "life", then there is no REAL ANSWER in science as to how the extreme complexity of all life actually began?? Can anyone actually accept that at some point water rock and lava just came together and "POOF" - life just started??

For persons of science, and other, it must be rather exasperating to know all there is to know about everything, and yet not really KNOW/UNDERSTAND about the reality of the phenomenal beginning of LIFE itself!! 

[Pimander]

Isn't it "basically" a fact that if one does not believe that God started "life", then there is no REAL ANSWER in science as to how the extreme complexity of all life actually began??

No it isn't a fact.  There doesn't have to be a single "REAL ANSWER" for it to be worth asking questions and basing answers on measurable things.

Can anyone actually accept that at some point water rock and lava just came together and "POOF" - life just started??

The whole point of science is not to just accept anything.  It is to observe, have ideas then test them by measuring things.

Science isn't about inventing beings who are responsible for everything.

For persons of science, and other, it must be rather exasperating to know all there is to know about everything,

Persons of science don't arrogantly pretend to know everything, that is why we are studying things.  We leave professing to know everything to religious people!

[Eighthman]

It seems to me that there is a huge assumption underlying our understanding of evolution - and it is "locality".

Everyone seems to assume that life emerges or develops purely because of local causes. Suppose living things popped into being (or changed) triggered by nonlocal quantum effects?  Kinda godlike but just the universe copying something it's done elsewhere.

[Pimander]

Everyone seems to assume that life emerges or develops purely because of local causes. Suppose living things popped into being (or changed) triggered by nonlocal quantum effects?  Kinda godlike but just the universe copying something it's done elsewhere.

There is also Rupert Sheldrakes hypothesis of formative causation.

Sheldrake hypothesises that memory is inherent in nature and things that have similar form have similar fields which interact with the memory of similar forms no matter where they are in the universe (morphic resonance).  Once one form establishes a pattern others interact with the memory field.  In this scenario life would only have to establish itself once in the entire universe to make it much more likely similar forms will establish themselves everywhere else in the Universe.

Ervin Laszlo introduces a similar concept:

László's 2004 book, Science and the Akashic Field: An Integral Theory of Everything posits a field of information as the substance of the cosmos. Using the Sanskrit and Vedic term for "space", Akasha, he calls this information field the "Akashic field" or "A-field". He posits that the "quantum vacuum" (see Vacuum state) is the fundamental energy and information-carrying field that informs not just the current universe, but all universes past and present (collectively, the "Metaverse").

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ervin_L%C3%A1szl%C3%B3

Both their books are worth a read.