actually being pres was never the goal

[ArMaP]

Our ballots were in order, everyone appeared as they should have and the voting method was to fill in the little oval with a black pen (obviously machine-read).

So that means that even the "hand-made votes" are counted by machines. Hmm, I wonder how easy it would be to tamper with those...

I do not trust machines. Everyone knows they can be tampered with. I believe everything should be done by hard copy and physically counted by a team of human beings. We don't need to know the results so badly that we can't wait a few days for this process to be completed.

I'm a programmer and I don't trust machines.

In Portugal we mostly use the old method of hand counting the votes, but if each voting section counts their votes they will get the results in just a few hours, after some 4 hours we have almost final results.

[RUSSO]

So that means that even the "hand-made votes" are counted by machines. Hmm, I wonder how easy it would be to tamper with those...
I'm a programmer and I don't trust machines.

Well, Brazil was one of the first to implement electronic voting machines and as you know our politicians are incorruptible, a beacon of unbreakable gentleman's that only think about the well-being of their people and country. Im sure there is no way anyone cheat an election with those machines.

After that said, let me quote Zorgon:

ZOMG!!!!

[Pimander]

but the reports speak of the thousands all across the country. besides since you can only vote ONCE getting more than one machine on video would be difficult

Stop frothing about the vote being rigged when it is irrelevant.  Trump can't win.  Here is why.

Ronald Reagan, with an electorate 87 per cent white, could campaign with only them in mind. No American president can be elected on that ticket today – some 30 per cent of voters in this year's election are expected to be non-white.

White America can't always get what it wants.

Donald Trump's campaign is concentrating on white, Republican Americans – and that's why he'll lose

And this is the clincher.  He is basically a bog standard republican but with a streak for saying stupid things!

The longer I spent in the crowd, the more I realised they were so at ease with Trump because that which is supposedly so radical about him is, in fact, just Republican tradition.

Ranting about "corrupt" Washington? That builds on decades of attacks on "corrupt big government". Endless dog-whistle class and dog-whistle race? This goes right back to Richard Nixon. I met with a lot of anti-Hillary ranting, but that is nothing new either. This election is the result of a 25-year Fox TV-driven delegitimisation campaign, where dozens of hacks have made careers convincing audiences that the Clintons could even be murderers.

Back in DC, it started to feel obvious that American conservatives are in denial about two things. First, that Trump represents a natural, logical continuity with decades of Republican rhetoric. Second, that most Trump voters are just like the people I met in Virginia: middle-class white Americans.

The same goes for his core support. The average pro-Trump household, supporting him in the primaries, earns $72,000 (£59,000) a year. The national average is $56,000. This is mainstream America.