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Started by zorgon, October 27, 2016, 07:45:22 PM

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astr0144

That seems encouraging if you suggest its relatively easy to make $10 K a year on the likes of ebay ..

I had looked at ebay for what I would describe as maybe the more Mr or Mrs average  where you can see how many items that have sold in a 6 or 12 month period..and have a good idea what they tend to sell... Most I would say would be not making more than £1 to 2 K a year..

BUT there are those specialized sellers who have numerous items on offer and no doubt make a lot of money.. but many seem to be existing businesses using ebay as a way to sell some of their goods.. maybe some businesses convert to just sell on ebay..

finding such things as say rare type stamps.. or collector items that
may sell for a good profit.. can be good but sometimes it maybe hard to determine if you should sell them or hold  onto them !  :P


Quote10,000 a year? Sure that is easy enough  That is only $834.00 a month.  Not sure how Ebay UK is but I see they list things much higher than we do. Shipping is an issue for you though

But you can start by spending a few hours a day and just letting stuff sit  Make sure you use the FREE monthly listing (50 basic per month  250 with the basic store 1000 with the premium) They also usually give away free listings before every holiday   With the free listings you only pay the fee for stuff you sell

I check my accounts daily to see what has sold  print label put it outside for the postman and transfer any money from paypal to my account Even slow days I get something like today a 5.00 glass ornament and a 10.00 mineral specimen  Oh wait :P I see two more just popped up :D

It all depends on where you want to be. As I said before Ebay Etsy Amazon  (any site really) has a 20,000 annual limit before they need to tell the government.  You are not selling as a business but as a person getting rid of your stuff.  Government has yet to figure out how to tax this as it goes across international lines


QuoteBotgh  There are those just selling off a few things to Chinese merchants that run full time businesses  You can make a little or make a lot depending on what you want to do.  I have sold some really big ticket items but mostly the little stuff that keeps cash flowing just to pay the bills...

My next step is to try the various professional auction houses for the good stuff :D

I have a stamp that should fetch some good money It is an error stamp

zorgon

Quote from: astr0144 on October 28, 2016, 05:12:38 PM
If you mean mineral type Rock / gems... or fossils ,those type of things and you were able to obtain / find them with relevant ease if say you have areas around Las Vegas to obtain them..and there is a demand for them.. then yes that would be a good example.

LOL My garage and yard are full of rocks :P I will likely never sell them all in my life time :P But yeah rocks are all over the place, in every country  :D  and they are (for the most part) FREE for the picking :D

QuoteI always wondered would Rocks from the Grand Canyon  sell on ebay ? if one was to visit and collect so many (and not get pulled up from the Rangers) or later have some sort of online like police do you for selling such things from a Govt owned Nat Park on ebay..

Well you are not allowed to remove anything from a National park  That is a federal law  HOWEVER the government is starting to recognize that rock collecting is a Recreational Activity and several of the parks that have know collection sites are starting to allow collecting, but not using any machinery  Pick axe and shovel are okay and limited amount (what you can carry) for removal.  But there are many public locatyions, abandoned mines and active private quarries and mines you can dig at  (some for a small fee)


QuoteWith so many similar related things on the Internet that can be found for free.. and others who run UFO type forums or websites..some have membership type sites..or offer books, DVDs / videos that they often also sell at events. but is there enough people who will pay for such info...or the right type of info.. or does it require too much time and effort to try to make something out of it.. such as some gurus... will do videos.. interviews with other experts and hold seminars etc...and write books etc..which they do sell..Like Kerry Cassidy as an eg.

There is money in it sure... but you have to be willing to make up BS that the fickle public WANTS to hear. I do not have the ability to become a Charlatan :P  NO ONE wants to pay for truth :P because it messes up their belief system. Feed their ego and get rich, Like Greer. 

Not ready to sell my soul to pay the rent :P

zorgon


Quotebut for the average person who looks into such stuff.. its a long road to try to find out what maybe or maybe not worth while info..
and then it can be down to ones opinions..and not all want to attend seminars or events..but would consider buying certain things online..

maybe I can sell some green alien dolls :P  We do have the tin foil hats and the Bob lazar DVD that sell occasionally.  I would be better off selling "healing gemstones" to the New Age crowd :P but again I find it hard to bullsh!t people. :D


QuoteIt maybe that the likes of you could help save them a lot of trial and error in spending a lot of time trying to find what may or may not be BS and what maybe worthwhile stuff..like you may have done for many a PRC member..

The fickle public won't even follow a FREE link :P  Do you know how many have takeen my "test" and got the answers? Even though all the answers are now online and easy to find?

Hmmmm  less than 20 :P

Quotesome gurus don't care and would sell anything .. true or false..

Yes... just like greedy corporations they have learned that truth doesn't matter so they might as well go for the gold.  But I don't need that Karma on my doorstep :P

QuoteBut your encyclopedia offers you numerous options.
why not just start with a general over view of what you may see as the 10 best topics to write about..and break it down in stages..
what things would you think would be good to tell Joe public who is interested in UFO type stuff.. the truths about  in the UFO world as an eg ???

I am contiplating: "Zorgon's Theory of Everything" :P

QuoteCreate a free initial type ebook and offer it on a website for people who will give you their name and email details, there are ways to collect email addresses...using whats known as an opt in page that has an opt in form on a webpage..some are free to obtain others you may have to pay for...but they are a main way gurus build a list of interested prospects.. as it can be good to build a list of people who show interest...as they become your target audience....

We tried that several times already  once with John Lear to get his book out, once with Undo to start a book based on the Livingmoon... seems these starters always fizzle  Ah well... We even tried podcasts and videos  but never seem to be able to stick together long enough to get it done

::)

QuoteThere are ways to create single simple websites that target certain phrases and keywords related to UFOs as an eg... that you can create freely and get listed in the search engines on page 1 on google in some cases...these are on keyword or phrases on googles pages that people are searching for...so they are quite well targeted individuals searching for the words your relating to.

Web pages are easy to create I have several thousand :P  Most on the livingmoon, many on UMLR.net and more on my medieval site.  ALL are now linked under the one hosting account

astr0144

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It maybe judging from your reply that Rocks could be a good item that you can sell, especially if you are fortunate enough to be in the right area to find interesting specimens..

would be great for you if you had too many to place on ebay in your shed !  or easily to obtain around your area :)  unlimited supply  = made for life !

I am not aware of many rocks to be found of interest in my own area...Id have to travel some miles to find some..

but I know around the SW USA that that is a good area for geology..

I would think if one could have obtain Rocks from the likes of the Grand canyon that they may also be good to offer on ebay..
but it may only be those that look interesting that sell.

QuoteLOL My garage and yard are full of rocks :P I will likely never sell them all in my life time :P But yeah rocks are all over the place, in every country  :D  and they are (for the most part) FREE for the picking :D


QuoteWell you are not allowed to remove anything from a National park  That is a federal law  HOWEVER the government is starting to recognize that rock collecting is a Recreational Activity and several of the parks that have know collection sites are starting to allow collecting, but not using any machinery  Pick axe and shovel are okay and limited amount (what you can carry) for removal.  But there are many public locatyions, abandoned mines and active private quarries and mines you can dig at  (some for a small fee)


It maybe one of those topics or things that can have various possibilities..and may depend upon how one goes about it.

Such as maybe a set number of people interested in these type of topics will only respond to the extreme or B.S stories / theories.

and maybe there are only a small % few that may seek other things..that may offer more realistic alternative views.

It maybe that those who would be interested in other alternatives  are only a small majority of the population.

Just like only a small % of the population may be able to accept or consider certain theories.. who have high Intelligence maybe within the top 5 to 10 % or less.. and most of them maybe too busy in other endeavers.. although I am sure they would consider such thoughts on knowing the truths about the likes of say UFOs / E.Ts at some stages in their life.

MAYBE these are the type of people you would need to target your ideas to rather than the general public at large..if that was ones agenda to reach such people who maybe more interested in the type of content that you have to offer...

Without too many being from the likes of ATS who already may have similar knowledge for those who had studied the subject for sometime..


It would need a lot of time , money and effort to try to test out..

but it maybe that there could be a best solution that might suit ones acceptance if they did want to try to find a way to try to sell  ones specific material / theories in some sort of saleable format.

No doubt some of those in the industry know that they can sell to the uneducated unwary , nieve young or  gullible. which we all are at some part in our life's.   


QuoteThere is money in it sure... but you have to be willing to make up BS that the fickle public WANTS to hear. I do not have the ability to become a Charlatan :P  NO ONE wants to pay for truth :P because it messes up their belief system. Feed their ego and get rich, Like Greer. 

Not ready to sell my soul to pay the rent :P

You say that you have a several thousands visit your website each month..if so no doubt there is enough interest..

Is you your test only available to PC members or also non members ?  if non members you wont really know what the real figures would be that take your test. 

say 20 having took it out of at the present 470 members..

but in the past you had more members.

and my impression is that most of your members are from your own personal invite..

do you get many visitors asking to join ?


QuoteThe fickle public won't even follow a FREE link :P  Do you know how many have takeen my "test" and got the answers? Even though all the answers are now online and easy to find?

Hmmmm  less than 20 :P


Quotemaybe I can sell some green alien dolls :P  We do have the tin foil hats and the Bob lazar DVD that sell occasionally.  I would be better off selling "healing gemstones" to the New Age crowd :P but again I find it hard to bullsh!t people. :D


That is a shame if those attempts did not get acceptable results.

again there maybe many other options that were not tried..or that it just was not done the right way at the time or persisted enough..

sometimes one has to tweak and do a lot of trial and error to get something to work in the right way.

QuoteWe tried that several times already  once with John Lear to get his book out, once with Undo to start a book based on the Livingmoon... seems these starters always fizzle  Ah well... We even tried podcasts and videos  but never seem to be able to stick together long enough to get it done

Well even if you wrote your book and offer it for free... I hope that you do some day.. The World may need it !

and it maybe a good thing to give the public other views to consider..

but also you may have later issues from some of the Charlatans.

QuoteI am contiplating: "Zorgon's Theory of Everything" :P