Anti gravity or gravity reduction?

[Pimander]

So, its possibly even pointless to try to negate it or minimize it, without first understanding the omni-directional nature of it,

We recently discussed how the experience of time is omni-directional.  As gravity (et the non-quantum level) is caused by distortion of space time (Einstein) it is interesting that you say gravity is omni-directional too.

At the quantum level however, matter does not really exist.  Mass is just packets of energy in motion.  If you convert the matter to energy it no longer has mass!

So basically, it is the pattern/quality of the interaction between energy and space time that creates gravity not the amount of energy.  This could be the key to gravity manipulation.

Different electrical/magnetic fields (shapes or frequencies of) alter the behaviour of energetic particles in matter in different ways.  To use the key, it is a matter of altering the behaviour of the particles so the the pattern/quality of the interaction with space time changes gravity.

So in theory electromagnetic fields are the key to gravity manipulation.  We need to discover a field type or material that allows us to direct the way energy alters space time in a controllable way.

And FFS don't post how to do it here anyone, you'll get the site destroyed!

[Littleenki]

We recently discussed how the experience of time is omni-directional.  As gravity (et the non-quantum level) is caused by distortion of space time (Einstein) it is interesting that you say gravity is omni-directional too.

At the quantum level however, matter does not really exist.  Mass is just packets of energy in motion.  If you convert the matter to energy it no longer has mass!

So basically, it is the pattern/quality of the interaction between energy and space time that creates gravity not the amount of energy.  This could be the key to gravity manipulation.

Different electrical/magnetic fields (shapes or frequencies of) alter the behaviour of energetic particles in matter in different ways.  To use the key, it is a matter of altering the behaviour of the particles so the the pattern/quality of the interaction with space time changes gravity.

So in theory electromagnetic fields are the key to gravity manipulation.  We need to discover a field type or material that allows us to direct the way energy alters space time in a controllable way.

And FFS don't post how to do it here anyone, you'll get the site destroyed!

Beautifully worded Pimander!

Resistance may be a key, once we figure out how resistance to omni directional force works, perhaps gravity control or manipulation will fall into place. I hate to sound like a philosopher instead of an inventor on this, but I firmly believe it has been the thinking which has kept us from our quarry.

So does our pattern, or quality become a direct result of resistance to field interaction? Or is the pattern created by previous field interaction...my money is on both!

The universe breathes, some religions have said god is a sound, or a word...or breath..perhaps in the static, the pattern will be filtered to us...but at any rate, that which makes us, breaks us..and the cycle continues.

Maybe we should try following, hopping on, and riding the cycle a bit, instead of exploding it or cutting it into pieces..silly humans.

Cheers!
Le

[robomont]

im impressed w pman and le s comments ,real impressed.
im kinda shying away from the term gravity or antigravity and going more with mhd down to the atomic level.what we think as gravity are just minute changes in atomic level mhd.the mind has a hard time thinking that small so its just hard to comprehend interactions enmasse at that level.in a way like salt water flowing down a hill but an electrical current flowing through said water but going uphill due to placement of electrodes.two media existing in one place but flowing in opposite directions.

[Pimander]

like salt water flowing down a hill but an electrical current flowing through said water but going uphill due to placement of electrodes.two media existing in one place but flowing in opposite directions.

The big contradiction of course is that gravity is supposed to have a negligible effect at the sub atomic level even though  Sakharov's theory of induced gravity proposes a quantum mechanism.

Also on the idea of omni-directionality, you can consider gravity to be entropic.  The second law of thermodynamics is that everything tends towards high entropy.  It implies that "gravity is not a fundamental interaction, but an emergent phenomenon which arises from the statistical behaviour of microscopic degrees of freedom encoded on a holographic screen. " Again, surely this means that fields effecting the "structure" of the space time around matter would be a key to gravity manipulation.

It is pretty much impossible to directly measure quantum gravity effects because they happen at incredibly small level.  So measuring any field effects on gravitation has to be simply measuring weight and trial and error.  The actual dynamics are for theorists.  We just need to get it to work.

I disagree that gravity manipulation is irrelevant.  The single biggest problem with space flight is the amount of fuel required to lift the mass into space.  Lessen the effect of gravity (not necessarily reverse it) and the cost of conventional propulsion is reduced.  Once in space gravity is less significant (inverse square) and friction is negligible therefore little fuel is needed.  On arrival at another planet gravity becomes an issue again.

[robomont]

thats where teslas machine is so important.the one extracting high voltage and converting it into usable voltage and current.outer space is full of high voltage like cosmic rays and charged hydrogen.
this is down converted to usuable energy.
when gravity is looked at from the angle of mhd,then energy is everywhere and mobility is possible everywhere.
when you look at the size of the capacitor in the fluxliner,i believe it to be a modified tesla machine.basically teslas work orbits almost completely around mhd.
if you look at neutron stars,they are stripped of protons and electrons but not neutrons.i suspect what clusters these neutrons is a magnetic field.which tends to hint at current.but how there be current without electrons or protons.can neutrons have a current?
if so then maybe neutrons are creating there own "gravity".

[petrus4]

Stone cutting can be done with the use of certain sounds.



Movement of large stones via leverage is a lot easier than many people think, as well.  No extraterrestrials required.