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Unlock Kaguya Princess of the Heavens - The Castle Beyond the Looking Glass

Started by Lunarstation, July 12, 2017, 04:45:13 PM

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Lunarstation


Lunarstation

Two images of the Oceanus Procellarum (Ocean Of Storms) The first image is from Jaxa Kaguya the second top down image is from the Clementine mission.  Clementine mission images are thin on the ground in high quality/detail considering they have over 18 Million images from it? Top left of center of the Clementine image there is a huge dome with a bit of damage on it, as if a meteor strike damaged the glass, the glass has a greenish tinge to it.

Some of the Kaguya images have a serious amount of blur, I pause the HD video takes screen shots and adjust contrast and brightness to try and bring out the detail, sometimes I get good results other times the blurring is too good.  It is much easier to work on images from the 60's because they were not as good at covering the images as they are now.  Nowadays they take land surface data and map that to a generic grey moon image and it creates a false prospective of the moon, much like you get in computer games however they will never be able to hide all of it.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/150974590@N04/shares/6046mu

ArMaP

Quote from: Lunarstation on July 13, 2017, 07:38:57 PM
Clementine mission images are thin on the ground in high quality/detail considering they have over 18 Million images from it?
Most Clementine photos have a resolution between 100 and 300 meters per pixel, not that great, but if you want to map the whole Moon you will need to use either low resolutions or a very long mission.

QuoteSome of the Kaguya images have a serious amount of blur, I pause the HD video takes screen shots and adjust contrast and brightness to try and bring out the detail, sometimes I get good results other times the blurring is too good.
Don't use the videos, use the photos.

Lunarstation

Quote from: ArMaP on July 13, 2017, 11:11:17 PM
Most Clementine photos have a resolution between 100 and 300 meters per pixel, not that great, but if you want to map the whole Moon you will need to use either low resolutions or a very long mission.
Don't use the videos, use the photos.

The pics are low res even though they said they were hi res they were infact as low as 480x270

http://global.jaxa.jp/press/2007/11/20071107_kaguya_e.html

I've seen so called hd images and they are just low res blown up.

http://gigapan.com/gigapans/157712

zorgon

The Kaguya videos are of a plaster model :P  The shadows are all wrong :P

Lunarstation

Quote from: zorgon on July 14, 2017, 01:29:10 PM
The Kaguya videos are of a plaster model :P  The shadows are all wrong :P

I love the shadows theory, some people just don't understand that taking a panoramic whilst on the lunar surface takes moving from point A to point B creating a time difference :)

ArMaP

Quote from: Lunarstation on July 14, 2017, 09:44:42 AM
The pics are low res even though they said they were hi res they were infact as low as 480x270
Image size is not related to image resolution.

QuoteI've seen so called hd images and they are just low res blown up.

http://gigapan.com/gigapans/157712
That doesn't look like an official image, you can't blame the space agencies for what other people do with their images.

Some years ago I saw a list of bad or altered NASA photos from the Moon, but when I looked at the list all the photos were on private sites, while NASA had online much better, non-altered versions, although NASA has been guilty of having fake images on their sites.

ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on July 14, 2017, 01:29:10 PM
The Kaguya videos are of a plaster model :P  The shadows are all wrong :P
I was never interested in Kaguya's (or more correctly, NHK's) videos, they were just a publicity stunt from a TV company.

zorgon

Quote from: ArMaP on July 14, 2017, 08:31:08 PM
I was never interested in Kaguya's (or more correctly, NHK's) videos, they were just a publicity stunt from a TV company.

Agreed...  My biggest beef originally was that the space craft was in a polar orbit so at the equator the sun would be directly behind and this the shadows of objects on the surface would be negligible and as it traveled 'up' to the pole and into the terminator shadow, the shadows below would become longer as it flew into the night side

THAT didn't happen... the shadows never changed

Besides looking at the supposed 'surface' in those videos  nothing looked familiar :P It might fool the general publics :P  They will believe any old thing

Plaster of paris prop for TV watchers :P and not even as good as the one NASA used in the 70's :P

At least NASA used Lunar Orbiter images to paint their fake moon :P




Lunarstation

Why do they not show the mare marjinis in full light  and where is the video for mare undarim?

I still think that the vids are a mix of cgi and manipulated frames with some authentic video.  One think is certain it all seems very questionable.