Theresa May ‘orders cyberwar’ on Russia’s spy

[fansongecho]

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/08/europe/gru-russian-intelligence-skripal-intl/index.html

[Pimander]

I do not think it was the Russians.

A lot of what you posted is correct apart from this.  It was the Russians this time.

[fansongecho]

Hi Pimander,

I guess they forgot what Stalin is reported as saying when holding a dinner to recognise the Intelligence Services back in the day - 

" Stalin said: "In intelligence, one should never work by launching an attack up front. Intelligence should be active in a roundabout way. Otherwise there will be failures and serious failures."


Cheers' 


Fans' 

[astr0144]

At the moment I unable to read thru and reply to each reply..

but thanks to all for your thoughts and comments.

I dont really know what may be going on with the Russians or with Trump Seeker..

but what ever way I consider things...based on comments made so far..

It still seems a bit of a mystery to me...

How many False flags are needed.. to scare us any more or bring in more surveilence etc...

but at the same time why would the Russians do what they did..(if those are their agents) trying to poison past agents now based in the UK...

was it seen as a type of James Bond film like  killing...

Was it a way to increase their chances  of making a hit on them rather than risking awaiting for the UK based agents to come out of their residence...which they may tended to have rarely done..

In terms of Issues with Trump..

Yes its been non stop events to try to destroy him..and maybe Stormy was just another..

that does seem to have since gone very quiet..

but similar events have brought down Past Presidents..which was my concern.

If Trumps legit...I would not want such a thing to happen to him..

This is an update on the Russian Spy Poision case

seems that They are claiming / suggesting  that they were only Tourists..

Spy poison case: Suspects say they were in UK as tourists

MOSCOW (AP) — The two Russian men charged in Britain with poisoning a former Russian spy with a deadly nerve agent appeared on Kremlin-funded television on Thursday, denying their involvement in the attack and saying that their appearance in the English city of Salisbury was merely an "incredible, fatal coincidence."

(1 of 3) In this video grab provided by the RT channel , Ruslan Boshirov, left, and Alexander Petrov attend their first public appearance in an interview with the Kremlin-funded RT channel in Moscow, Russia, Thursday, Sept. 13, 2018. The two Russian men charged in Britain with poisoning a former Russian spy with a deadly nerve agent appeared on Russian television on Thursday, saying they visited the suspected crime scene as tourists. (RT channel video via AP)
September 13, 2018

Ruslan Boshirov and Alexander Petrov made their first public appearance in an interview with the RT channel, saying that they had visited Salisbury as tourists to see its famous cathedral. "Our friends have been suggesting for a long time that we visit this wonderful town," Petrov said, while Boshirov added that they specifically wanted to see the cathedral's famous spire and clock.

Britain last week charged Boshirov and Petrov in absentia, alleging they were agents of Russia's military intelligence agency known as the GRU who were dispatched to Salisbury, about 2 hours' drive southwest of London, to poison former Russian agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia with the nerve agent Novichok.

British police have released CCTV footage and photographs showing the two men walking in Skripal's neighborhood on March 4, the day of the attack. They were also pictured visiting the city a day earlier. Britain said the attack was almost certainly approved "at a senior level of the Russian state," an allegation that Moscow has vehemently denied.

Both men on Thursday denied that they are GRU agents or that they were in possession of the Soviet-made Novichok nerve agent. "The whole situation is an incredible, fatal coincidence, and that's that," Petrov said. "What is our fault?"

They claimed they did not know who Skripal was or where he lived. Both men looked composed during the interview, and confidently recited details about Salisbury's tourist attractions, including the height of the cathedral's spire.

The two men, who appeared to be around 40, said they worked in the nutrient supplements business. They denied that they carried a bottle of women's perfume where British authorities found traces of Novichok.

"The customs are checking everything," Boshirov said. "They would have questions as to why men have women's perfume in their luggage. We didn't have it." The British government on Thursday issued a statement after the interview was released, reiterating their claim that Russian authorities were lying about the case.

"The government is clear these men are officers of the Russian military intelligence service — the GRU — who used a devastatingly toxic, illegal chemical weapon on the streets of our country," the statement said. "We have repeatedly asked Russia to account for what happened in Salisbury in March. Today — just as we have seen throughout — they have responded with obfuscation and lies."

Replying to the interviewer's question why the pair went to Salisbury for two days in a row, Boshirov said that when they first got to the town it was snowy and they got wet "up to the knee" so they decided to take the train back the following day.

When asked to reveal personal details about themselves or explain why they were sharing a hotel room or taking trips together, Boshirov said: "Let's not pry into our private lives." Boshirov did not react to the interviewer's request to show the pictures they took on that trip, only saying that he found Salisbury Cathedral "very beautiful."

Petrov and Boshirov spoke at length at how depressed and scared they have been after they found themselves in the spotlight, saying that the publicity has made their lives "a nightmare." "If the real perpetrations are found, I hope at least they (the British) will apologize to us," Petrov said.

The men's surprise public appearance Thursday came a day after Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russian authorities know the identities of the two men, but insisted that they are civilians and there is "nothing criminal" about them. He called on them to contact the media.

Petrov said he heard Putin's statement on the radio and decided to contact RT's editor-in-chief. __ Jill Lawless contributed to this report from London.

https://www.mail.com/int/scitech/health/8734098-spy-poison-case-suspects-they-were-uk-tourists.html#.1272-stage-hero1-1

[fansongecho]

Did you folks catch this at all ?

   

https://www.rt.com/uk/438393-petrov-boshirov-skripal-simonyan/   

Worth a look -

[ArMaP]

I saw that on Euronews, after hearing about it on the radio.

Edited to add that I saw just a few seconds on Euronews, not the full interview, obviously.

[fansongecho]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45522614

[ArMaP]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45522614

That's too lazy, couldn't you at least post a title?

[fansongecho]

no - 

"Edit - I was busy ArMaP, so no but I thought the link was of interest -

[ArMaP]

It's just a personal opinion, but I think posting only a "blind" link is a lack of respect for other people, as you are forcing them to go that site just to see what you are talking about.

Besides that, from a technical point of view, posting only a link makes it impossible to find that post on a search, as there's nothing we can use in a search.

Just because you were in a hurry doesn't mean you can waste other people's time.

[fansongecho]

Thanks for the scolding ArMaP 

<YAWNS>



Ironic that The RT editor hung up on the BBC interveiwer about the tourists story - when their motto is "Questions More"   


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-45517388/skripal-novichok-poisoning-rt-editor-hangs-up-on-newsnight

[ArMaP]

Thanks for the scolding ArMaP 

You're welcome, I provide them for free to anyone that needs one.

[fansongecho]

Indeed