Green Fireballs

[zorgon]

Green Fireballs You Say?

I seem to recall John saying that when Apollo was out there, they always had something watching them... Seems that was also confirmed by someone working at Kwajalien Atoll in the late 60's. Well since you guys brought up Green Fireballs...

"Green Fireballs Leaving the Planet?"
Mission:  Apollo 07
AS07-05-1613 and AS07-06-1700

AS07-05-1613


Source:  JSC/NASA ISD highres AS07-05-1613



AS07-06-1700


Source:  JSC/NASA ISD highres AS07-06-1700



Green Fireballs Leaving the Planet? - Pegasus Page

The above HiRes images are available from this link;

NOTICE: Please don't spread this around... it is a directory on NASA's FTP server, not generally seen by the average public. So exercise prudence (I already stored them all)  This was the directory that once had all the Apollo images in tiff format but they moved those before I downloaded them all. ArMaP will recall that day. Rule #1  SAVE EVERYTHING BEFORE YOU POST A LINK  )

Enjoy

ftp://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/

NASA has many hidden web servers that contain the good stuff   Like this one for documents

[rose]

And Rule No. 2: Remember where you saved it!

That was interesting, Zorgon.  After wading through the pile above, I noticed that the interest in the fireballs really rampled up when they began to come down vertically instead of horizontally.

Perhaps it is or is not relevant, but more sophisticated photo-reconnaissance was being tested in New Mexico at the same time. Cameras and V-2rockets were being paired for the first time.
http://ufocon.blogspot.com/2010/02/of-roswell-rockets-secret-v-2-flying.html

Sarbacher's son said that atlhough the rumor was that his Dad was hired to develop guided missiles to shoot down UFOs, he was actually hired to put cameras on them, so that they could film UFOs since nothing else was fast enough to track them. (The original source for this was a post by Robert von Sarbacher. Unfortunately, the link I have is no longer valid, but you will find reference to the story here:

http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/05/07/sarbacher-strieber-ufo/

When I think about the feasible ways we would have been observing our spacecraft missions before they left orbit, I wonder if  perhaps we used this same technology in parallel with each launch.

Maybe not, but if we keep the churn going long enough something is sure to pop out that we will all look at and say, 'oh, that makes perfect sense.'

[A51Watcher]

Perhaps it is or is not relevant, but more sophisticated photo-reconnaissance was being tested in New Mexico at the same time. Cameras and V-2rockets were being paired for the first time.

Hi Rose, great link in there too... thanks!

Here's one that goes in that folder as well -

... in March 1950, a True magazine article written by U.S. Naval Commander Robert B. McLaughlin, a rocket specialist at White Sands Proving Ground, revealed that UFOs had been sighted at the highly secret base during the test of a modified V-2 rocket.

Referring to the incident, McLaughlin wrote, "This day [June 10, 1949] we were firing a Navy upper atmosphere missile.

Shortly after its take-off, two small circular objects, guessed to be approximately 20 inches in diameter, appeared from no place and joined the Navy missile on its upward flight. (Similar small disks have also been previously reported as well as the larger types mentioned earlier.)

At about the time the Navy missile was doing well over 2,000 feet per second, the object on the west side passed through the exhaust gases and joined its friend on the east. They then apparently decided the missile was not going fast enough for them. They accelerated, passed the Navy missile and sailed off upward and eastward."

In addition to the striking similarities between this 1949 case and the Big Sur UFO Incident, which occurred some 15 years later, there is another commonality:

According to an Office of Special Investigations (OSI) report in the declassified Project Blue Book files, the U.S. Army's Public Information Officer at White Sands, Captain Edward Detchemendy, tried to suppress UFO sighting reports at the base and actually chastised Commander McLaughlin, on July 6, 1949, after overhearing him discussing a radar tracking of another UFO with an individual who had no "need-to-know" about it.

According to veteran UFO researcher Richard Hall, McLaughlin was later punished by the Navy for writing the article—losing his job at White Sands and being shipped off to sea duty.

http://www.missileforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=896&start=30

Uh oh, battleship duty in the bathtub for him! 

However this at least confirms and establishes the 1949 Naval presence, clearance and "participation" in Top Secret programs at The White Sands Proving Grounds, the original 'Area 51' if you will.




I would add that there were also several accounts besides this one, of small (20 - 30 inches on average) silver discs displaying outlandish flight capabilities in newspaper articles during the 1947 wave, along with the more prevalent accounts of aircraft- size silver flying saucers. Military pilots even made official reports of these seen during their flight, judged from various angles in- flight. Also Military Police on-duty at a 'sensitive' installation reported these probing the base.

If we accept the size estimate and veracity of these sightings, one can only surmise that these were perhaps remote control drones/probes.

I also recall Major Keyhoe saying that the (early- on in the 1947 wave) public and private reports of these small discs were of major concern and caused quite a stir in the Pentagon, because it was suspected that these were remote control bombs that could be guided into place and detonated, and were showing up at several 'sensitive' installations.

These military base sightings were not reported to the newspapers, but had "The Brass on the edge of their seats" is how he described it if memory serves.

[zorgon]

hey does this count?... i have a thing about taking full moon pics and on this one i got a green ball..didn't see it when i was taking the pic only as i looked at it..

Yeah that counts. LD Nice catch. Doesn't look like a meteor as there is no tail and its not showing high speed motion blur. And its not coming straight at you because it is smaller and to the right in the second image

I would say you have a real UFO their

[zorgon]

I do want to point out one thing... not all green fireballs are Spacecraft.

Those two NASA ones however are moving to slow and the wrong direction for a meteorite, however green boloids are fairly common.  They are green because of the oxygen burning from their reentry heat. They are however relatively easy to tell they are space rocks

Peekskill Fireball Meteor

This one was big and famous and hit a car...
(The guy GAVE it to the University  It's MINE I sayz )

The Peekskill meteorite broke up over the United States on October 9, 1992, an event witnessed by thousands across the East Coast. The meteorite broke up over Kentucky and damaged a parked Chevrolet Malibu in Peekskill, New York on impact. Major cities like Pittsburgh witnessed the bright meteorite. The meteorite traveled northeast and had a pronounced greenish color. The meteorite has been captured on 16 different videos and remains as one of the most famous meteorite sightings

Peekskill meteorite

The Peekskill Meteorite and Fireball

Explanation: The Peekskill meteor of 1992 was captured on 16 independent videos and then struck a car. Documented as brighter than the full Moon, the spectacular fireball crossed parts of several US states during its 40 seconds of glory before landing in Peekskill, New York. The resulting meteorite, pictured here, is composed of dense rock and has the size and mass of an extremely heavy bowling ball. If you are lucky enough to find a meteorite just after impact, do not pick it up -- parts of it are likely to be either very hot or very cold. In this weekend's Leonid meteor shower, few meteors, if any, are expected to hit the ground.

Astronomy Picture of the Day


This photograph was taken by S. Eichmiller in Altoona, Pennsylvania just after the main meteoroid body broke up into fragments.



The Peekskill Meteorite videos

Paper: The orbit and atmospheric trajectory of the Peekskill meteorite

Meteor over alberta! (Best footage)
Nov 21, 2008



Low-Flying Green Fireball - Japan - January 6, 2012



Real Meteor Australia

[sky otter]

Z ..as ususal more info than ever..how  the heck do you manage to keep track of it all..

if anyone  is interested the object shooting past in the pic is mostly red with green towards the outside and darker indents on it ..looks like flames around it
i'm sorry but i lost my program to enlarge parts of pics when i switched cameras
so if you can put it on your own pics you can enlarge it to see the details..kinda cool
whatever the heck it is

i still find it hard to believe i didn't see it when i was taking the pic

thanks Z for all your help

[A51Watcher]

Negative image zoom displays no obvious signs of photoshop pasting or feathering.

[sky otter]

 

watcher..did you think i faked it  ? ?   

i am so flattered you credit me with knowing how to do that...
and lmao at the same time

the program i was speaking of only let me isolate parts of a photo and enlarge them
and keep that enlargement as the photo
i can save a photo to my pictures and enlarge THAT to look at it..but i can't change the original
so you only see the enlargement...


and what i was trying to say was to do exactly that..to move it onto your computer and enlarge the object to see the details

gotta tell you ..you have made my day...
hahahahahahahaha..oh wow....thanks

[A51Watcher]

Just helping out where I can. 

Of course I did the enlargements when I saw them and had no idea what they show other than it's certainly unexplainable in my book.

A fireproof meteor perhaps? 

The negative enlargement was to show no evidence of a tail as zorgon pointed out. 

(The bit about photoshop was one of my usual oblique sarcasms)   

[WeekendWarrior]

    We had about month ago a great, mostly green fireball with some reddish and bluish in it(in the youtube video it seem just green). It even made a rare sonic boom as it left the atmosphere(or entered,depends of who gives the info).
I have been tracking info about it in a Finnis sientific net page as they promised to track its trajectory, but all the sudden it has just been put in a total darkness, no updates as promised and nothing, I smell something fishy in it. At the time there was a bright half moon and the fireball still managed to cast a great shadows.
But I'll keep following if I get more info about it.
There is some video of it in youtube for you Fireball fans     
I notice that I dont know how to decently add a link here.. Noob.. have to check on some instructions 

[stealthyaroura]

Hi there all, My only sighting so far of what we call UFO's was one of these green fire ball's, it was way back in the 90's but i remember it plain as day. It was an normal day weather wise it was overcast but bright in the afternoon just after dinnertime.
I was outside in the country in the north Yorkshire part of England,i looked up in the sky as this Green Fire ball caught my eye.

It was no meteor as it was travelling way to slow, it was also on a straight flight path not falling just travelling across the sky at maybe 2000 feet? It twinkled, left no smoke trail and was silent.
I ruled out all the obvious possibilities like flare,firework,meteor, it lasted to long for it to have been ball lightning IMHO & it was NOT a light on any plane or man made craft.
It just carried on into the distance,i watched it for maybe 10-15 seconds. Wish i knew what it was i saw.my story my sighting