Dr Eric Davis notes on VA Thomas Wilson: 'not made by man - not by human hands'

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Are we getting closer to disclosure? Is the government finally admitting not only UFOs but Aliens are real aswell?

'not made by man - not by human hands

Suddenly, videos from Navy fighters on UAP/UFOs are released. We have media acting in a serious way on the issue about alien visitation. As if the government had decided that the time has come to tell the truth about all of it. As if they realized that they cant hide it forever cause, eventually, that would come to the light by itself. Maybe they think people are now "enlightened" enough to understand about alien visitation and it would not disrupt/colapse/panic our society as they used to sell as excuse.

Not sure about what is coming, but its very surprising that this amout of information about UFOs are being released. It is information comming from the goverment and military and it kind of bugs me because they are going back on what they have said in the past, modifying their own narrative.

Something is UP/about to happen in near future is my best bet.

By now everyone is aware about the document that has surfaced:

Full Document here: https://imgur.com/a/ggIFTfQ

QuoteOn the provenance of the purported Davis/Wilson document
A document comes to light

A document has surfaced, dated 16 October 2002, which purports to be a copy of a set of notes, (not a transcript as so many commentators are saying,) of a meeting, on that date, between Dr Eric Davis and US Vice Admiral Thomas Wilson.

Introduction

The purpose of this post is to try and set out some known facts about the provenance of this document, and then make some informed deductions. I must firstly state, that I have not obtained any of these deductions from the anonymous source who advised me that he was the individual who supplied a copy of the set of notes, to which Grant Cameron has been referring. These deductions are purely mine, and based on public knowledge.

Known facts

After my first blog on the topic of this meeting, I received a blog comment from US researcher Richard Dolan which, in part, advised that:

"One important thing to add to your analysis is that I was shown two pages of that 15-page document back in 2006...I will never forget reading the statement 'not made by man - not by human hands'..."

The Davis notes, on page 13, contain the statement, attributed to a program manager, "...it was technology that 'was not of this Earth- not made by man - not by human hands."

So, here is someone who states they saw part of the notes back in 2006, four years after the purported meeting is dated. Dolan has declined to name the individual who showed him these two pages.

Next, Canadian researcher Grant Cameron, who came into possession of a copy of the notes in late 2018, says that he received a copy of the notes from an individual. I have been able to communicate with this individual and obtained a statement from them, which I recently posted in the first blog on this topic. This person advised me that they also, would not name their source of the notes.

In addition, in an interview on the Black Vault Radio show, dated 28 December 2018, Cameron said: "It's a transcript of an interview and the person who had it died, had the transcript, and it comes out of their files."

Hypothesizing

I am interested in determining the provenance of the notes back beyond my source. The following is my lines of reasoning for putting forward a potential individual's name, as the source of my source's copy.

1. Firstly, going back to the original 1997 Wilson meeting with UFO researchers. Excellent research by journalist Giuliano Marinkovic, has identified that the attendees at this meeting, were:

UFO researchers: Steven Greer; Shari Adamiak; Commander Willard Miller; Brigadier General Stephen Lovekin; Dr Edgar Mitchell.

Government: Admiral Thomas R Wilson; Lieutenant General Patrick M Hughes; Admiral Mike Crawford.

[Source: A privately circulated document, titled "Forsaken Poseidon: Anatomy of the USG UFO SAP Infrastructure," compiled by Giuliano Marinkovic, 2019.]

2. I asked my source, if he had ever met Dr Edgar Mitchell? He replied that he had met him briefly, on several occasions. However, "that the Edgar Mitchell meetings may have nothing to do with the source of the documents." I thought that this wording was odd, "may have nothing," not "didn't have anything."

3. I noted Grant Cameron's audio statement: "It's a transcript of an interview, and the person who had it died, had the transcript, and it comes out of their files."

4. I understand that my source has in fact revealed to Grant Cameron, but not to me, the source of their copy of the notes. On 13 June 2019, on his Face Book page, Grant Cameron posted an unusual link to an old document. It was based on a radio interview which was broadcast on the Australian Broadcasting Commission's network, back in 2008. It featured some claims by Dr Edgar Mitchell in relation to information he had obtained from unnamed sources; and some comments by myself.

To my knowledge, no-one has circulated a link to this 2008 ABC interview, since I did the interview in 2008. It is so obscure an item that most people have never heard of it. The text, by Cameron, which accompanied the link, simply said "The following article is about to come into play." To me, it seems to point to what is clearly an important piece of information, to Cameron. The individuals named in the article are Dr Mitchell and myself. I suggest that Cameron is pointing to Dr Mitchell. Why?

5. Dr Edgar Mitchell was on the Science Advisory Board of the National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS) when Dr Eric Davis was a NIDS employee, and thus were well known to each other.

6. Dr Edgar Mitchell, who passed away in 2016, is central in all of the above information.

My current hypothesis then, is that the source of my source's copy of the notes, was  from the files of Edgar Mitchell.

Confirmation sought

Before publishing this post, I forwarded a copy of a draft of it, to both my source, and to Grant Cameron, and sought their comments on it.

My source responded almost immediately, with a "no comment."

Following my email to him, Grant Cameron then posted the following on his Face Book page.

"For some time now Richard Dolan has encouraged me to become involved in the story of the two recently leaked UFO documents. I have resisted but Monday morning I will enter the game and make a posting.

I will post a third document that will begin to explain where these documents came from and what is going on."

Check this blog By Keith Basterfield for more information: https://ufos-scientificresearch.blogspot.com/2019/06/on-provenance-of-purported-daviswilson.html

The source of the leaking document seems to points out to Dr. Edgar Mitchel:

Dr. Edgar Mitchell about Reverse engineering programs - USAPs - 2008/2007
Corroborating Testimony for the Admiral Wilson Leak 


Also if you interested in more info about it, i would sugest Richard Dolan's takes on the case. Worth the time.

UFO LEAK OF THE CENTURY. Richard Dolan Analyzes the Admiral Wilson Notes.


Ufology Turned Upside Down. The Admiral Wilson Leaks and More. Richard Dolan Intelligent Disclosure


The Wilson Leak: Latest Developments. Richard Dolan The Big Picture.


The Leak: New Revelations



"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

RUSSO

And today, interesting enough, "Ibteesam Reaz, Staff Physicist at Lockheed Martin" answered the question: "What are the most plausible explanations of Navy pilots seeing hypersonic objects at 30K feet, objects with no visible engine and sometimes described as a cube within a sphere?" in quora:

QuoteIbteesam Reaz, Staff Physicist at Lockheed Martin
Updated Jun 18, 2019 · Author has 148 answers and 713.8k answer views
Don't be naive and think the three USS Nimitz/Go Fast/Gimbal events are the only ones on the "official" books. Luis Elizondo, director of the governmental AATIP, has claimed there were "hundreds" of other incidents in the recent past which are not cleared for public release. But we needn't care— there are thousands of governmental records (as disclosed via the Freedom of Information act) describing these craft with insane maneuverability as far back as the 40s. So, these advanced crafts do exist— there is no question about it. Here's what we can say, noting this technology has stayed somewhat stagnant since the days of the "foo fighter" UFOs in WWII:

Someone has discovered a propulsion technology which does not rely on jets of gas or emission of particles, otherwise, we would see contrails. There are no sonic booms as the craft accelerates. This is a hint that the makers are using some esoteric form of propulsion (related to the gravitational field?).
Someone has discovered how to make: right-angled turns in all directions at supersonic speeds; almost instantaneous acceleration from rest and similarly almost instantaneous deceleration from supersonic speeds to rest. (I said ALMOST instantaneous— it may well APPEAR instantaneous due to an altered metric tensor. Thus, the apparent time taken for a maneuver would not be the same for the occupants of the aircraft.)
Thus, someone has discovered how to mitigate g-forces to a very large extent. A highly trained pilot can withstand about 10g's. But craft described by the military regularly force their internal contents (note: occupants, if there are any) to experience hundreds of g's. The USS Nimitz UFO dropped from 28 000 feet to 50 feet in 0.78 seconds ... That is, for reference, 10 900 m/s. The craft's other "buddies" (similarly sized capsules) previously had dropped from 80 000 feet to 20 000 feet in a few seconds.
At the same time, these crafts regularly "glow" in different colors. Red and green "firey" balls were infamously known as "foo fighters" in WWII, following Allies and Axis fighter craft in the night. Thus, the plasma field over their craft is a hint that indeed there is a lot of energy being produced by the craft since the particles are highly excited.
Lt. Graves and his fellow pilots told the newspaper that "the video showed objects accelerating to hypersonic speed, making sudden stops and instantaneous turns — something beyond the physical limits of a human crew."

Among the great conspiracy theories is that they are actually the product of US government black projects. These contracts are assumed to be given out to Lockeed Skunkworks or Northrop Phantomworks. I do work on aerodynamics at Lockheed Martin at Forth Worth and have a few friends from the Skunkworks division here. Whenever I have tried to ask them about the feasibility of black projects resulting in these aircraft, they flat out say that our engineering methodologies are not far enough developed to build such craft. Besides, why would the US be pumping out $60 B on F-35s that can barely reach Mach 2?

And if we did— if we have this advanced technology for ~60+ years— why aren't they being used in warfare today, at least in an unacknowledged capacity? Why aren't they being used anywhere in the world in other technological applications? Lastly, how did the US (or Nazi Germany/Soviet Union, if you buy that angle) develop these craft with a comparatively primitive aerospace engineering field in the 40s? That last question is one big problem because these aircraft (with the exact same characteristics and maneuverability) have been seen at least since the 40s.

Gimbal Incident


Go Fast Incident


Update as of June 7th 2019

The senior-most radar technologist on the USS Nimitz, Kevin Day (also the man who ordered the intercept of the tic tac UFO) claimed there were "hundreds" of other companion craft which dropped from 80 000 ft to 20 000 ft to monitor the situation. Only one, which dropped to 50 feet, tangoed with the two jets. On his appearance of the second episode of Unidentified, he says that the fleet made it all the way to Guadalupe Island near Santa Catalina Island, upon which they disappeared from radar (meaning they had all submerged into the ocean). This really stuck out to me ... because Santa Catalina is a hotspot for flying objects submerging into the ocean. Luis Elizondo hinted that, although he couldn't go into specifics, the military probably had a strong presence on the island, judging from the many radar sites installed. Thus we are left with a stronger impetus to speculate that the US government does indeed have something to do with the tic tac. One of the petty officers' claim that "men in plainclothes" confiscated the tapes makes more sense now. If indeed this is the case, I must say, most of the aerospace engineers who are not privy to the details of how the craft works are being played for fools. Why are we wasting so much sweat, hard work, money when some select group of people literally have technology that is beyond the reach of modern physics? The entire world and its reliance on power would change ... but then again, is that a good thing for the powerful who rely on oil and gas for geopolitical control?

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-most-plausible-explanations-of-Navy-pilots-seeing-hypersonic-objects-at-30K-feet-objects-with-no-visible-engine-and-sometimes-described-as-a-cube-within-a-sphere-See-link

Also, i would like to ask, do you think these leaks shine some light about what Bob Lazar is saying for years?

Here is a Q&A with Bob Lazar from 2 days ago:

"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."