NASA's Unexplained Files

[astr0144]

NASA's Unexplained Files

I have watched on and off over the last few years some of NASAs Unexplained files...as well as many other UFO Space programs like Ancient Aliens...

and I dont think in the earlier episodes NASAs Unexplained files made too many refs to Aliens or UFOs..

But the last few episodes I have watched... The series programs so far seem to have made quite a few refs to UFOs / Aliens..

One I watched yesterday... and last week.. shown some things that I had not seen before

and the one last night .. made a ref to some Secret Alien Signals that have been suggested were detected by some Scientists.. that Differ from the main  Famous SETI WOW signal that If I recall was back in 1977.

I think it was this one... but when I searched for a video on it... other refs I found do not seem to match the one suggested in this episode description.

Other websites and even my TV description relate to other series / episode descriptive details..such as
(When NASA begins an experiment to communicate with dolphins, experts examine if it's a prelude to making alien contact. Will it have dire consequences? S4/Ep8)

Suggested S5 Ep4

Secret aliens

An astronomer records an unusual radio signal from beyond the solar system[/b]. FBI agents find classified documents at the home of a NASA scientist. When scientists discover strange DNA in the octopus, they examine if their origins could be alien.

Or it may have been this one.. Series 6 Ep 6

Secrets of the Alien Signals

When NASA begins a strange experiment to communicate with dolphins, experts investigate if it's a prelude to making alien contact. But some fear that such a discovery could have apocalyptic consequences.


what ever it was... It was a very unusual story.. unless it was a hoax..
I wonder if anyone has seen or recalls it.. or may have a video they can post of it..

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3952194/episodes?season=5


Last weeks was series 6 / ep 5

that showed a very interesting program that showed how Neil Armastrong became aware of a Story that suggested some Aliens artifacts had been found in a Cave in Ecudor... that some explorer claimed to find..and neil aranged and went on a expedition to find  the cave..that he said contained  a set of golden type tablets known as the METAL LIBARY.. that told the story behind the creation of Universe and Life etc...





Aliens in the Amazon

After Neil Armstrong's moonwalk, he led an expedition to the Amazon to find a legendary library that holds all knowledge of an advanced alien civilization. Experts ask if a close encounter on the moon's surface inspired Armstrong's mysterious quest.






https://coolinterestingstuff.com/why-did-neil-armstrong-really-go-on-an-expedition-to-find-evidence-of-ancient-aliens

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/arqueologia/cueva_tayos01.htm

Tayos Gold Library
The Odyssey of Stan Hall
Architect of the Tayos Caves Expedition of 1976

Lest We Forget!

Scottish engineer Stan Hall, was born in Edinburgh and raised in nearby Dunbar a few doors from the birthplace of conservationist John Muir. As a nine-year old In 1945, newsreels of blitzed cities and concentration camps opened his mind to a vision of two kinds of people in the world – in every sense of the words – builders and destroyers!

In parallel with university studies and an interdisciplinary career in building he explored ancient engineering, civilizations and mytho-history, concluding that South America is the 'missing page of prehistory' and 'interplanetary catastrophism' the missing link in the Creation – Evolution controversy.

    "Senor Hall! Forget Erich von Daniken and his Gold of the Gods! The best story is in you and if you ever decide to write it I will help you!"
    Juan Morícz (1923-1991)

    "We shall save it ... because there is no longer the sight of the Book of Counsel ... There was once the sight of it, and it was written long ago ... Great was its account and its description of when was finished the birth of all heaven and earth ..."
    Book of the Popul Vuh, Edmunsen translation, 1971

Tayos Caves Expedition 1976

In 1976 Hall catalyzed a landmark expedition to the Cave of the Tayos in Ecuador involving a dozen institutions, joint special forces, and astronaut professor Neil Armstrong as Honorary President and participant.

With a scientific framework installed he later turned to Erich von Däniken's report of a metal library allegedly found in the caves by Juan Moricz in the mid-1960s, something unacceptable within an orthodox view of global history and absence of any ancient script in South America.

Neil Armstrong: a second small step

Odyssey

So began a personal odyssey to the heart of global enigmas – the Creation process, origins of mankind, the Golden Age of Saturn, the destruction of Atlantis, Ptolemy's lost city of Cattigara, the sudden rise and fall of wonder civilizations, and the subliminal 'lemming factor' inherent in the collective consciousness of Mankind – enigmas he found unified by Interplanetary Catastrophism as the missing link of prehistory, part of a chain that now includes the metal library of the vanished South American Empire of Tayhuantinsuyu!

Stan Hall and Neil Armstrong Tayos 1976

The question

    We asked: In July 1969 , the crew of Apollo II left an instrument on the moon called a "Lunar Laser Ranging Rectro Reflector Array"... basically a 2 foot diameter mirror. What was (is) its purpose?

    With thanks to all who replied to the above question (only one person got it wrong).

    Answer: for measurements of the Moon's orbit around the Earth to unprecedented accuracy... Unlike the other scientific experiments left on the Moon, this reflector requires no power and is still functioning perfectly ... (Abstracted from a submission by plw12752anderson 28.01.2007)

You are now invited to send your answer to the following:

Question: What single global cause do you think could anciently link the following recorded events?

            The Sun standing still on Mt. Gibeon (Hebrew)

            The halting of the Sun in its path (Chinese)

            The Sun not setting for 10 days (Chinese)

            The Sun standing still on the horizon (Mexican)

            Gods trying to make the Sun disappear (Japanese)

            The whole world becoming dark (Japanese)

            The Sun not seen in the sky for 5 days (Peruvian)

Metal Library

CALCULATED LOCATION OF THE TREASURE CAVE
77º47'34"W and 1º56'00"S

image obtained with WorldWind

Close to the southern border of the Amazonian province of Pastaza, Ecuador; marked by a line running due east from Mount Sangay converging with another running due south from Mount Sumaco: concealed below river level inside a treacherous section of the Tayos caves system, some kilometers in length, formed by the River Pastaza.

Separate 'Cave of the Tayos' is on the Rio Coangos

mapped by the 1976 expedition: 78º 13' W 3º 6' S

Pastaza River Stretch of Tayu Cave Location

After separate odysseys with Moricz and another key protagonist Hall broke his rule of rejecting any treasure, monster or UFO that cannot be dragged up to his front door, or that Steven Spielberg can replicate, by finally accepting the Tayos metal library and treasures had to exist!

Packed with scientific and historical information but lacking an ancient script in South America he distilled from mytho-history a model of the origins of the Solar System and Humanity that might accommodate the metal library... and a more astounding 'crystal' library that accompanies it!

Following the deaths of the two key protagonists in the 1990s Hall became sole custodian of the treasure story.

Realizing such a fantastic tale could never stand on its own he developed an Optical Relativity model (see Grailscope) to effect an empirical distillation of data gathered since 1974, finally emerging with two non-fiction and two fiction manuscripts covering his analyses and discoveries. These will be published in 2006 to mark the 30th Anniversary of the 1976 Tayos Expedition.

General Description of the Treasure of the Tayu [Tayhuantinsuyu]

        A library consisting of thousands of metal books on shelves, each weighing about 20 kilograms, pages stamped on one side with ideographs, geometric designs and inscriptions.

        A second library of hard, polished, rectangular, translucent plates, each with parallel, encrusted channels, laid on gold-leafed trestles.

        Hundreds of zoomorphic and human statues, some on heavy plinths, representing various species of animals and insects, also humans in different positions displaying a variety of emotions.

        'Metal' bars of various shapes, together with toys and piles of alluvial gold.

        Instruments for making buttons and jewelry.

        Sealed doors (possibly tombs) covered in semi-precious stones.

        A sarcophagus of translucent material containing a large, gold-leafed, human skeleton.

The Treasure of the Tayu and Manuscripts of Stan Hall

THE GOLD LIBRARY OF ATLANTIS

                    "Señor Hall! We are the only legitimates in the Tayos story!"
                    Petronio Jaramillo A.

                    (1929-1998)

Petronio Jaramillo A. (left) in 1996

Here is the story of events that impelled Stan Hall to organize in a record 18 months from idea to completion an expedition of 100 soldiers and scientists from a dozen institutions into the Cave of the Tayos in Ecuador, accompanied by astronaut professor Neil Armstrong as Honorary President and participant.

Also included is his unique record and analyses of rival claims about an alleged metal library and other fabulous treasures concealed in the Tayos caves by an astounding civilization!

Hall develops a long-term relationship with Juan Moricz, whose claim in 1969 to have found the metal library was sensationalized in Erich von Daniken's 'Gold of the Gods' published in 1972. When Moricz dies in 1991 Hall meets with a mysterious missing person in the story, alluded to by Moricz though not by name. During six years of questions and collaboration, Ecuadorian citizen Petronio Jaramillo A. is absolutely accepted by Hall as the true source and custodian of the treasure story.

They fill gaps in their separate trajectories to complete the picture. Hall is then entrusted with the details of an enormous treasure, including a metal library of thousands of volumes - also a second library of hard, polished, transparent tablets that cannot be scratched with a knife, its existence here disclosed for the first time!

When Hall is in Britain in 1998 initiating the plan for an official 'expedition of occupation', he receives by telephone the sad news from the mother of Petronio that he has been assassinated.

With the passing of Juan Moricz and Petronio Jaramillo, the treasure trail might have disappeared. However, despite an agreement, to safeguard both families, that Jaramillo would not pinpoint the treasure until an expedition was in the field, Hall decides to combine the information from Petronio with his interdisciplinary background and field experience to determine its precise location.

Working alone, burdened with long, hard years of operating in Ecuador and evading fringe elements, he finally decides the best course of action is to directly publish on the world-wide Web.

    "The 'Iron Ring' forged by astronomers, historians, evolutionists and creationists, based on an erroneous identification of the star Sirius for the planet Venus (Egy: Ast or Aa-set) at the helical rising in 1321 BC, combined with a rejection of the mytho-historical record of interplanetary catastrophism and electromagnetism, guarantees a cyclical repetition of the errors of history!"
    Stan Hall

Tayos Expeditions 1969 and 1976

The British-Ecuadorian Tayos Caves expedition of 1976 was essentially a scientific extension of the 'Moricz Expedition 1969' and the 'Moricz-Hall Stones Expedition' of 1975.

Below are photographs of some of the locations and participants, including astronaut-professor Neil A. Armstrong, Honorary President of the 1976 expedition.

[ArMaP]

Never saw it or even knew it existed, so I can't help you in this case.

[astr0144]

I have only been aware of NASA's Unexplained Files in the last few years... as its now on season 6..into 2019..
but on the TV programs I watch at the moment... they are delayed..

We used to just have 5 channels in the UK for Free or on std TV...

but in the last 10 yrs or so.. they brought out whats known as Freeview.. that has maybe 50 to 100 or more channels..
that we dont have to pay for.. other than by a TV Licence..

where as if your on the New type channels like Sky ...In the U.K  you get the latest versions as they come out.
but may cost 10 to 30 GBP a month...

In the USA... when I have visited... they seem to have had numerous channels for many years..

I think most of the UFO / NASA type programs come from the USA.

Id say that the NASA files are worth a watch if you get chance to see them..

Same with Ancient Aliens.... have you watched any of them... I be very surprised of anyone who has interest in things on PRC had not seen Ancient Aliens...

Whether or not they tell any real truths... I find them very interesting and very informative in one way or another..

BUT certain can see how they may be just all involved in a HUGE Hoax...

but at the same time they inform you about many of the intersting UFO stories and theories..

They have a certain collection of presenters ... that I know Zorgon and some others on PRC would question their credibility...

Never saw it or even knew it existed, so I can't help you in this case.

[ArMaP]

We used to just have 5 channels in the UK for Free or on std TV...

In Portugal we had only two until 1992, when the first private TV station started their emissions.

but in the last 10 yrs or so.. they brought out whats known as Freeview.. that has maybe 50 to 100 or more channels..
that we dont have to pay for.. other than by a TV Licence..

Now most people have cable TV, TV reception through radio waves is almost dead.

Same with Ancient Aliens.... have you watched any of them... I be very surprised of anyone who has interest in things on PRC had not seen Ancient Aliens...

Thanks but no thanks. The clips I have seen of it shows the kind of TV "fakementary" that is (apparently) common in the US, where they mix facts with fiction without separating the two.

[astr0144]

Just did a quick browse to try to check a few details...

It seems it was actually around 2002 that the UK had just 5 channels then Free View came in..but not all may had obtained it for some years later.... UNTIL they altered from analogue to digital TV around the Country between 2007 / 2012..then every one had to have Freeview if they wanted to watch TV..

https://blog.scienceandmediamuseum.org.uk/chronology-british-television/

In parts of the Country... they did have Cable TV that came in around 1938..to my surprise...mainly for areas of the Country who for some reason could not obtain standard TV signals

But Cable did come offering other channels around the 1990s as a paid for service...

Then we also had SKY TV satellite TV from 1989.

In ref to Ancient Aliens... if you have not watched it.. then as much as you may know from both ABOVE TOP SECRET AND PRC LIVING MOON...  NO doubt you have been made aware much more than the majority of the Worlds Population..
In ref to some of the things that they discuss  or cover...

and you are well aware of the fakery as you describe..

BUT In MY Opinion...YOU may be also missing out on a LOT of other things...

and as I am now more aware of hoaxes etc after being a member on this Forum.... I also am aware not to be easiy be taken in by all that they say without at least being aware of many of the facts also having been covered on the forum..

BUt they do offer in my opinion a LOT of facts that I was never aware about that can be worth checking out...
or they are good reminders.. and often they will leave somethings open for one to make their own judgement...

be it about History, about many stories from our past...and their or other  Geographical locations... ..past civilsations, religions, Building Structure like the Pyramids... or other things and structures and mysteries around the  World..Places and facts  that I  was never aware about...ALSO the UFO stories, Alien details , and SCi FI related Futuristic theories and suggestions...and also Some various Science Facts.

Many of the things that have been discussed on PRC.... So I dont really understand why it would not have been of interest other than you are one member on here who has come across maybe more than all of us...

but my opion at times is maybe you dont always recall everything or somethings you may not seem to relate to..
so maybe I am wrong on that !


but sometimes or at least part of there approach is often to say things like...
SOME Astronaut theorists believe this.. or that... in which often some of it could be seen as unlikely....

You just need to be able to read thru their content... and be made aware of many facts that they inform us about..
which if you had not seen before... can worth noting to check up on...

and some of what they say could also be valid... or is just hard to judge..

I dont think one can believe that they know 100 % that they maybe BS ing on all they discuss....

Then there is other TV programs like UFO Hunters where at least they do tell you some facts about past UFO related stuff.. and try to investiagate some of the facts.. or interview witnesses etc...

again only after having studied this stuff can you start to make ones own judgement.... as Zorgon used to say you have to go thru a lot of BS to find the Few worthwhile facts... if your lucky enough to come across or make some valid judgement..

BUt I will say maybe only a very small % of people on the Planet may really be able to make such judgements...
as most of the population do NOT qualify.....

and that may not even include any of us ! ...

I say that .. as things that I may once of thought may have been valid... often have later been requestioned or re analysed and views may had changed...or things have been found unproven..I am sorry to say..

even what I thought was some of the possible most interesting UFO stuff... have often just later been found to be unproven... or disappointing after certain things had been investigated further...

So in the end so far... one may feel they had spent many years researching and not came up with any real believe in most things...

Which I think is certainly the case With ArMaP ...or persons who really investiage facts in more detail to accept such things as having any reality behind them...

In Portugal we had only two until 1992, when the first private TV station started their emissions.
Now most people have cable TV, TV reception through radio waves is almost dead.
Thanks but no thanks. The clips I have seen of it shows the kind of TV "fakementary" that is (apparently) common in the US, where they mix facts with fiction without separating the two.

[ArMaP]

My problem with shows like that is, as I said before, the mixing of facts with fiction, so if people want to study more the subject they first have to separate the facts from the fiction, wasting precious time when they could have started with the facts if the show was made honestly about the topic and not about grabbing audiences to make money.

One example of their "facts", one thing I saw on a clip taken from an "Ancient Aliens" episode about, if I'm not mistaken, Machu Pichu: they were talking about a stone block and said it had perfect square angles, as they measured them, as the image shows one guy putting a carpenter square next to the rock to check the angle, and we can see that the angle is not a perfect 90º angle, while the guy moves the square around, trying to get a perfect fit.

If people are not looking attentively at the image and/or do not know how to use a square they may not noticed that what is being said is a lie, making all the theories coming after that sentence (mostly about the need of advanced tools to do that work on the rock) are useless, as they are based on a lie.

Also, I hate watching videos, as they are most a waste of time, as they force me to use my time the way the director wanted, not as I want. When I know the is made in that "fakementary" style I just ignore it, unless it's just a short clip, like the one mentioned above.

[astr0144]

I know what you mean about wasting time... esp as we get older...so you do make some valid points..

You maybe right that yes often they do not come to the point ..

but they will say they use it as filler time to fit the topic material into an hours program...

Otherwise the main facts could have been told in a lot less time..

In regards to things like those BuIldings or Stone blocks etc...

They do make a lot of claims about how accurate that they suggest they had been created...
and to some extent... they maybe are quite amazing if created back in time many years ago..

Things like on some stone wall blocks do appear to be amazingly Tight Fits... where you cannot get anything such as a human hair or razer blade between the blocks.. even if they are not as Square blocked as made out..

they probably are quite Square within reason of what could had been expected back then...

It may depend on ones interpretation.. of how Square one expects to see..

I think Generally Ancient Aliens was mainly Based on Erich von Däniken theories...

Which for some researchers is like a new type of altertive to plain Science or Religion.. as it may attempt to suggest how things could have been combined..

and that could had started off on another scale many of the other UFO / Alien / trying to investigat evidence to Religious
theory type programs...

I suspect most or A lot of the material on A.T.S and most Forums will have  quite a large % of related material in ref to
both Erich  and Ancient Aliens..

and I woud be rather surprised f you would not disagree  with that... as you must have noted numerous referrals to it over the years...

My problem with shows like that is, as I said before, the mixing of facts with fiction, so if people want to study more the subject they first have to separate the facts from the fiction, wasting precious time when they could have started with the facts if the show was made honestly about the topic and not about grabbing audiences to make money.

One example of their "facts", one thing I saw on a clip taken from an "Ancient Aliens" episode about, if I'm not mistaken, Machu Pichu: they were talking about a stone block and said it had perfect square angles, as they measured them, as the image shows one guy putting a carpenter square next to the rock to check the angle, and we can see that the angle is not a perfect 90º angle, while the guy moves the square around, trying to get a perfect fit.

If people are not looking attentively at the image and/or do not know how to use a square they may not noticed that what is being said is a lie, making all the theories coming after that sentence (mostly about the need of advanced tools to do that work on the rock) are useless, as they are based on a lie.

Also, I hate watching videos, as they are most a waste of time, as they force me to use my time the way the director wanted, not as I want. When I know the is made in that "fakementary" style I just ignore it, unless it's just a short clip, like the one mentioned above.

[ArMaP]

Yes, many theories are based on Von Daniken's work, but I never read it, so I cannot really comment about that.