China: should we be alarmed yet ?

[space otter]

hi Fans

i checked them out quickly but i question who is giving this info out..
where do these folk get their info from ...i meant really

being the big skeptic that i am on any military info escaping
i'll just say that the sword rattling is getting louder
stock the bunker

[fansongecho]

Hi Space,

Here are some links to valid sources that I know a lot of military researchers and journo's go to and cross reference information.

These guys are viewed as the creme de la creme when it comes to genuine information on Defence related matters / information about military platforms.

https://www.janes.com/defence

https://rusi.org/  - UK Based Military Think Tank

https://www.rand.org/pubs/reprints/RP1050.html  - USA Based Think Tank

https://www.chacr.org.uk/ - UK Based Think Tank

https://www.fpri.org/ - USA Based Think Tank

and then there are the intentional leaks from the Intel Services, Military Branches and the Flag Officer(s) who want to get news out and develop a cover story that if investigated and corroborated with other stories leads to some semblance of the truth, BUT not forgetting there is of course a world of disinformation as well both intentional and unintentional -

Like everyone on this forum I am sure, that we all go to our trusted sources, alt media and even lamestream to gather what Intel we can ?
Lamestream and even some alternate media sources appear to produce fear porn on a daily basis

Also some critical analysis of the evidence can help shape belief in the story's we see on the net, like for example, how many aircraft carriers do China and Russia have for Force Projection?? compared to say the US or India ??

Which leads me to why are the Chinese building islands in the middle of the ocean?..  how easy is it to sink a Aircraft Carrier ?.. how easy is it to sink and island ?

Top posts Space, keep them coming, anything to stimulate my grey matter is good, cheers buddy! 

Fans' 

[space otter]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/sep/5/china-boosting-trade-north-korea-undermine-donald-/

By Guy Taylor - The Washington Times - Wednesday, September 5, 2018

China boosting trade with North Korea to undermine Trump, report says

Nearly three dozen North Korean cargo ships were spotted pulling into coal docks at the Chinese port of Longkou during May and June, according to a report Wednesday that claimed Beijing has allowed increased trade with Pyongyang just as President Trump has tried to maintain economic pressure on Kim Jong-un's regime.

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[space otter]

China summons US ambassador over military sanctions

21 hrs ago

China summoned the US ambassador on Saturday to lodge an official protest over sanctions imposed by the United States against a Chinese military organisation for buying Russian fighter jets and missiles, state media said.

The announcement came a day after China called on the United States to withdraw the sanctions or "bear the consequences".

The spat adds to tensions between the two global powers over trade, China's treatment of religious groups and the Asian country's claims to disputed islands in the South China Sea.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-summons-us-ambassador-over-military-sanctions/ar-AAAtFlU?li=BBnb7Kz




Iranian President Blames U.S.
After Deadly Military Parade Attack
President Hassan Rouhani claimed an unnamed U.S.-allied country was behind Saturday's attack.
Nasser Karimi and Jon Gambrel
09/23/2018 05:41 am

EThttps://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/iran-military-parade-attack-rouhani-us_us_5ba75b40e4b0181540ddd4c6






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China Buys Record Amount of Russian Soy as It Shuns U.S. Growers ...
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[space otter]

to me this looks like a bad situation that can only get worse considering who is in charge here
from what i have read trump ask canada to hold their CFO ..they are
and just released her to house arrest from jail
china is pissed and  is now holding canadians





who/what is Huawei
Huawei - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huawei


Everything you ever wanted to know about Huawei, Meng Wanzhou ...
https://www.cbc.ca/news/.../huawei-meng-extradition-questions-fraud-1.4943162
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/12/tech/huawei-cfo-meng-wanzhou-what-next/index.html
Huawei's CFO is out on bail, but the crisis sparked by her arrest is snowballing
Analysis by Jethro Mullen, CNN Business

Updated 8:07 AM ET, Wed December 12, 2018



https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-huawei-cfo-arrest-china-trade-war-lighthizer-kudlow-plan-2018-12
Trump's trade team spent days building a strategy to deal with the Huawei CFO arrest. Then Trump blew it up in a single interview.



https://www.scmp.com/business/companies/article/2177791/huawei-cfos-arrest-canada-claims-collateral-damage-telecom-giant
Huawei CFO arrest in Canada causes collateral damage as telecom giant freezes Japanese robot maker's contract
Up to 23 per cent of Yaskawa's US$4 billion in fiscal 2017 revenue came from China


https://techcrunch.com/2018/12/11/huawei-cfo-accused-of-fraud-is-granted-7-5m-bail/

Huawei CFO accused of fraud is granted $7.5M bail
Kate Clark@kateclarktweets / 2 days ago



Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland comments on the arrest of Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou and President Trump's remarks on intervening in the situation. She also says a second Canadian is in trouble in China.
MORE: https://globalnews.ca/news/4755293/ch.







Former Canadian diplomat detained in China




https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/canadians-detained-in-china-could-be-held-incommunicado-for-months/2018/12/13/9af7a3a2-febb-11e8-ba87-8c7facdf6739_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8252a46c1628

Canadians detained in China could be held incommunicado for months

[space otter]

China holds trillions in u.s. bonds and if they decide to cash them in.. we are looking at some real problems..but that's beside this


https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/dont-say-we-didnt-warn-you-a-phrase-from-china-signals-the-trade-war-could-get-even-worse/ar-AAC5jXm?li=BBnb7Kz

'Don't say we didn't warn you' - a phrase from China signals the trade war could get even worse
Yun Li  2 hrs ago


video at  link

The biggest newspaper in China explicitly warned the U.S. on Wednesday that it would cut off rare earth minerals as a countermeasure in the escalated trade battle, using an expression it only used twice in history, both of which involved full-on wars.

"We advise the U.S. side not to underestimate the Chinese side's ability to safeguard its development rights and interests. Don't say we didn't warn you!" the People's Daily said in a commentary titled "United States, don't underestimate China's ability to strike back." The paper is the official newspaper of the Communist Party of China.

The phrase "Don't say we didn't warn you" was only used two other times by the People's Daily in history — in 1963 ahead of China's border war with India and in 1987 right before China went to war with Vietnam.

"Will rare earths become a counter weapon for China to hit back against the pressure the United States has put on for no reason at all? The answer is no mystery," the paper said.

The trade conflict between the world's two largest economies escalated quickly this month with both sides slapping tariffs on billions of dollars worth of each other's goods. China's threat to restrict rare earth mineral sale to the U.S. came after President Trump blacklisted Chinese telecom giant Huawei, which led to many chip makers and internet companies cutting ties with the company.

The speculation of China's payback first surfaced when Xi Jinping visited rare earth mining and processing facilities in Jiangxi province during a domestic tour last week. A Chinese official warned on Tuesday that products made from the materials should not be used against China's development, which was seen as a veiled threat aimed at the U.S. and its technology industry.

China's rare earth materials are crucial to the production of iPhones, electric vehicles and advanced precision weapons, although the imports are a relatively small part of the $420 billion U.S. goods deficit with China.

The Chinese tabloid Global Times also said Tuesday China can play the "rare earths card, and it's "seriously considering" move.

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-treasury-securities/china-sells-most-us-treasuries-in-nearly-two-and-a-half-years-idUSKCN1SL2U4

[zorgon]

Chinese been ripping us off for DECADES...

They have so much money odours because we let them get away with it.

Bank foreclosure on your house? No worries China will buy it up

China undercuts our market but sell us goods that are bad quality and fall apart  and then get the tarif break as well

China sells CHEAP FAKE goods on Ebay but most Americans are to stupid to realize that they just bought glass instead of that Amethyst they got a fake certificate for. So these dummies and leave positive feedback. That causes Ebay to leave the account untouched for fraud because they are 4,ooo idiots for every 10 experts.

While an American does it they get account suspension.. 

On top of that, the USPS keeps raising rates in the US every 6 months, but set up a branch of the USPS "China Office" which allows Chinese seears to offer FREE SHIPPING to the US


Now then RARE EARTH

We have a huge mine just outside of Las Vegas that has been closed for YEARS. It's a rare earth mine. Thanks to this trade deal, the mine has reopened. So MORE JOBS..  Its a big mine but was closed because China cut prices on rare earth's so it was cheaper to buy it than mine it. In fact I was just doing an article on this for rock hunting a little while ago



There are several smaller mines around here  Lots of radioactive rare earths making China's "trade weapon" almost useless.

"Beijing has weaponized its dominance in the rare earth market before. In 2010, when China and Japan clashed over ownership of islands in the East China Sea, Beijing halted shipments of rare earths to its rival, disrupting supply lines for major manufacturers like Toyota and Panasonic. But Beijing emerged weaker for it."


"China, aided by its low labor costs and lax environmental regulations, became the dominant force in the rare earth market during the 1980s, surpassing the U.S. ChinaTaiwan) , which sits on close to 40% of global rare earth deposits, produces 120,000 metric tons of rare earth a year, or roughly 80% of the global supply. For comparison, Australia, the world's second largest supplier, produced just 20,000 metric tons last year.

The U.S. imports 80% of its rare earth needs from China, but overall demand for rare earths in the U.S. is low. American demand accounted for just 4% of China's rare earth shipments, totaling around $160 million in 2018.

Partly, that's because most U.S. manufacturers that require rare earth metals have already moved to China. America's remaining industries tend to import finished rare earth products, such as magnets, which are a trickier target for China to hit.

So  EMPTY THREAT

PAY UP YOUR TARIFS CHINA you been getting a FREE RIDE far to long

http://fortune.com/2019/05/29/china-rare-earth-metals-trade-war/

[ArMaP]

Portugal becomes the first euro zone country to issue debt on China's market

Portugal has become the first ever euro zone country to issue bonds denominated in the Chinese yuan.

Known as "Panda" bonds, that's yuan-denominated debt issued by a foreign sovereign issuer, the sale will take place Wednesday and Thursday. The southern European country announced last week its intention to sell 2 billion yuan ($289 million) worth of bonds with a maturity of three years.

These Panda bonds will not be the first in the European Union, with Poland issuing government bonds on the Chinese market in 2016 and Hungary in 2018.

Portugal's Finance Minister Mario Centeno told CNBC that the issuance is a "positive step in managing Portugal's external debt in the medium term."

This sale will allow Portugal to expand its investor base, Centeno also said in emailed remarks.

Portugal is one of the European countries with the highest level of Chinese investment. The country went through an international bailout between 2011 and 2014 during the height of euro zone sovereign debt crisis.

Since then, the Portuguese economy has returned to positive growth figures and credit ratings agencies have also turned more optimistic about the country. Last week, Fitch ratings updated its outlook on Portugal from "stable" to "positive," opening the door to a ratings upgrade later this year.

Portugal's relationship with China has always been relatively good, even Macao got a special treatment when it was transferred back to China. Since then we have received many Chinese citizens, a few from Macao but most from China itself. They usually open stores that sell everything and get their goods from Chinese importers. Some big companies like the Portuguese electricity company, EDP, have had a big part of their capital bought by China, in the case of EDP, 23.27%.

[space otter]

the steel mills here used to be the main place to work
at shift changes there were huge traffic jams
but somewhere in the 90's they were sending management of all levels to china to show them how to do it...
i never understood

now the steel mills are all gone

i just recently heard that the place i was employed for 12 yrs was sold to china
they stole intel and put many other like  business  out of business
and now they are no more
totally wild

there must be something in the water that makes us so  stupid
sigh

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