Cow Abductions - Serious Business

[astr0144]

I cannot recall what TV program I watched, but it was about UFOS and covered Cattle Mutilation...and showed pictures of parts of them that had been interfered with ...and there did not appear any butchery involved like one would expect....There were orifices in various places of the cattle but they seemed smoothly penetrated....

IF I recall later they concluded that the Cattle had been taken by special Helicopters and taken somewhere to be treated and then brought back and dropped from a height.

IF this has been proven to be incorrect or a cover up then this is new news to me !

[Linda Brown]

Years ago the entire cattle mutilation deal was quite the rage and of course Linda Moulton Howe was right there on top of everything... and she is great fun to watch at conferences....and besides being pretty... she is smart, smart, smart........ the subject raged for quite awhile and many thought for sure that aliens were doing all of this because....who else could it be?

Sort of " Let the little grey guy take the blame..." While the public is yammering about alien abductions no one will look in our direction.

I always figured it for Army or military medical tests but the idea of folks finding these corpses made no sense to me. After all.... if you are going to rustle cattle in the west.... fer petes sake.... don't get caught doing it... when you are finished with those cattle bury them in a deep pit with plenty of lyme on a military reservation and no one will know the difference. The farmers will blame cougars or something.....

But leaving them all mutilated for the public to find? That was SOMEONES decision... and I think that they got plenty of play out of it and maybe a few giggles.

I admit... after about the 1000nth report I tuned out. And I think everybody else did. Lindas Book did well... but I think even she moved on.... I remember once conference where EVERYBODY seemed to be using their own personal " remote viewer".... and that was only about  eight or nine years ago.

I don't know whats happening with that field of interest now. How did they finally resolve it? Did the military finally fess up? I know that there was a rumor of a bunch of cattlemen having a " heated" debate with some military helicopter pilots.... Did anyone ever fess up? Pay damages? Promise to never do it again?

I would have paid more attention if they had been doing this with horses I guess but then the first one I believe WAS a horse ..... ( named Snippy?) I was just a young woman ( I think it was 1966-67?) when I heard about that and even THEN when everyone was saying " Flying Saucers" I was mad at the military.

Course I was spending time with General Curtis LeMay at the time. I wouldn't have put anything past that man.

Linda

[zorgon]

Youre around LV, have you ever gotten to meet him, or associated with his group? it appears he is onto the aerpspace path now, and I wonder if he has decide to take the search into orbit with those inflatable satellites?

Met his wife but not him directly yet

I will have a page in the Insiders on him soon

[zorgon]

I would have paid more attention if they had been doing this with horses I guess but then the first one I believe WAS a horse ..... ( named Snippy?) I was just a young woman ( I think it was 1966-67?) when I heard about that and even THEN when everyone was saying " Flying Saucers" I was mad at the military.

Yeah that story was in the article on page one...

History

Charles Fort collected many accounts of cattle mutilations that occurred in England in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

Reports of mutilated cattle first surfaced in the United States in the early 1960s when it was allegedly largely confined to the states of Pennsylvania and Kansas. The phenomenon remained largely unknown outside cattle raising communities until 1967, when the Pueblo Chieftain in Pueblo, Colorado published a story about a horse named Lady who was mutilated in mysterious circumstances, which was then picked up by the wider press and distributed nationwide; this case was also the first to feature speculation that extraterrestrial beings and unidentified flying objects were associated with mutilation.

The Lady/Snippy mutilation

The first allegedly strange death of livestock comes from near Alamosa, Colorado, in 1967. The real name of the animal was Lady, but the media quickly adopted the name "Snippy" (the name of another horse at the ranch), which stuck.

On September 7 of that year, Agnes King and her son Harry noted that Lady, a three-year-old horse, had not returned to the ranch at the usual time for her water. This was unusual, given the heat and the arid conditions.

Harry found Lady on September 9. Her head and neck had been skinned and defleshed, the bones were white and clean. To King, the cuts on Lady seemed to have been very precise. There was no blood at the scene, according to Harry, and there was a strong medicinal odor in the air.

The next day, Harry and Agnes returned to the scene with Agnes' brother and sister-in-law, Mr. and Mrs. Berle Lewis. They found a lump of skin and horse flesh; when Mrs. Lewis touched it, the flesh oozed a greenish fluid which burned her hand. They also reported the discovery of fifteen "tapering, circular exhaust marks punched into the ground" over an area of some 5000 square yards. (Saunders and Harkins, 156) The medicinal odor had weakened somewhat, but was still present.

Mrs. Lewis contacted the United States Forest Service, and Ranger Duane Martin was sent to investigate. Among other tasks, Martin "checked the area with a civil defense Geiger counter. He reported finding a considerable increase in radioactivity about two city blocks from the body." (Saunders and Harkins, 157) Later, Martin would state, "The death of this saddle pony is one of the most mysterious sights I've ever witnessed ... I've seen stock killed by lightning, but it was never like this." (ibid., 159)

After trying to interest other authorities with little success, Mrs. Lewis turned to her professional connections: she wrote occasionally for the Pueblo Chieftain. Her account of Lady's strange death was published in that newspaper, and was picked up by the Associated Press on October 5, 1967. Soon, much of the United States knew the tale of Lady's death, and other reports of similar phenomena in Colorado emerged.

That same day, an account by Superior Court Judge Charles E. Bennett of Denver, Colorado, saw publication. Bennett and his wife claimed to have witnessed "three reddish-orange rings in the sky. They maintained a triangular formation, moved at a high speed, and made a humming sound." (Saunders and Harkins, 157) The civilian UFO research group NICAP became involved in the case as well, and some people speculated that UFOs were somehow involved with Snippy's death.

Shortly thereafter, an anonymous Denver pathologist's account of his necropsy saw publication. Lady's brain and abdominal organs were missing, he said, and there was no material in the spinal column. The pathologist insisted on anonymity, he said, due to fear his reputation would be damaged with involvement in such a high-profile case.

The Condon Committee, then at the University of Colorado, sent its coordinator, Robert Low, to investigate. Low brought in Dr Robert O. Adams, head of Colorado State University's Veterinary and Biomedical Science School.

Adams examined Lady and the evidence. He concluded there were "No unearthly causes, at least not to my mind." (Saunders and Harkins, 164) Adams noted a severe infection in Lady's hindquarters, and speculated that someone had come across the dying horse and slit its throat in order to end its misery. Then, Adams said, scavengers had inflicted the rest of the damage to the horse.

To some, this settled the question, but Mrs. Lewis argued that Adams' conclusions failed to account for the lack of blood at the scene and the medicinal odor.

Low reported that he'd located the "anonymous pathologist"; Low said that the man was "widely misquoted" and was furthermore not a pathologist. The man's opinions of Snippy's death generally matched Adams', said Low. Jerome Clark later identifies the anonymous man as hematologist John H. Altshuler. (Clark, 17).

The Lady/Snippy mutilation

As to Flying Saucers... maybe those Military saucers they were testing were messing with us

[Linda Brown]

City folk.

and speculated that someone had come across the dying horse and slit its throat in order to end its misery.

Oh please.

Anyone way out in the country like that would have had a rifle or a handgun with them...... on coming across a fatally injured horse they would have put a bullet between its eyes and then if they didn't know who owned it they would have left a note pinned somewhere......or under a rock nearby..... Someone had a fanciful imagination here but thats not the way it would have come down in real life.

Ask any Colorado rancher. Or Texas, or New Mexico.
Am I right?   Linda

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Agreed.
I feel sorry for the horse, and the cattle too.
It is often reported that the soft tissues around the mouth & reproductve organs, this tissue creates biochemicals useful in cloning operations.
Just an idea...

[hobbit]

Could I offer a very mundane natural cause?

Cattle and horses have four feet widely spaced.
I know for certain that oppositively charged nodal points exist in fibonacci sequenced distances apart.
Such as 34.55.89.144 inchs apart.

Horses and cattle are often stood ankle deep in wet mud.

Could it be possible( I consider certain) that a natural discharge through animals such as cattle and horses could result in discharges through their genitals and or throat areas??

And that this would result in instant death via the removal of the animals life force, with transmutation occuring at the discharge areas.

That any secret system utilising such knowledge would then introduce fancifull ET done it stories to veil humanity from ever understanding the method of creation and annihilation that THEY have under their control.
hobbit

[hobbit]

WHY have I not built a device to fit across these points?
OF COURSE.
hobbit

[Linda Brown]

Ah! A Hobbit in charge of future weapons development. Now we are all in trouble! And if I thought that he was serious.... my comment would be to...................  Linda

[zorgon]

Ask any Colorado rancher. Or Texas, or New Mexico.
Am I right?   Linda

yeah even John's wife went packin' every time they went up to the mine... never know when ya might run into some rattlesnake or other varmint 

[Littleenki]

yeah even John's wife went packin' every time they went up to the mine... never know when ya might run into some rattlesnake or other varmint 

Hey, Zorgon, have you ever had a thread on the visits to the mine specifically?

After hearing the night vision story, I bet there are some pretty cool tales that go with the trips out there!

Spooky desert tales, perhaps?

Le