If there are no CHEMTRAILS... WHY does the NAVY....

[Anynonmouses]

I have copied and saved your data Zorgon. Thank you for posting this, none of which most sentient beings would NOT have voted for or approved of, let alone a human being. I'm most concerned with the heavy metals and oxides used, and whether those materials being aerosolized are harmful to NON GMO crops, since Monsanto has been developing resistant crops to withstand such materials in an attempt to own all of our "food" production.

Keep up the great work--you get gold for this one.

Peace and Love,
JD

[zorgon]

we used to be able to go out and watch comets, stars and meteor showers because  there is hardly

Now THAT is an interesting point. The days when the comet was at it's best viewing here our sky, normally clear was overcast every day. So we are seeing an increase in meteorites, comets (two at the same time) and asteroids within the moons orbit; the military makes incoming space rocks [CLASSIFIED] (as of 2009); and then they cover up the sky...  makes you go HMMMMMMMM   


But this statement here that I posted above... pretty much sums it up..

The Naval Research Laboratory (NRL) in Monterey, CA, has developed a near-operational system for predicting the distribution of tropospheric aerosols. The model is a modified form of that developed by Christensen (1997). The NRL version uses global meteorological fields from the Navy Operational Global Atmospheric Prediction System (NOGAPS) (Hogan and Rosmond, 1991; Hogan and Brody 1993) analyses and forecasts on a 1 X 1 degree grid, at 6-hour intervals and 24 vertical levels reaching 100 mb (12 levels for initial runs then 18 levels beginning 1998062412 and 24 levels beginning 2002091700.) The original model used northern hemispheric, 12-hourly ECMWF fields on a 2.5 X 2.5 degree grid.

Now they do say "has developed a near-operational system" so one could say its not happening yet... but we all know that what they tell us publicly has already been done 20ish years ago   "The model is a modified form of that developed by Christensen (1997)"  Uh huh... 1997 eh?

[zorgon]

I'm most concerned with the heavy metals and oxides used, and whether those materials being aerosolized are harmful to NON GMO crops, since Monsanto has been developing resistant crops to withstand such materials in an attempt to own all of our "food" production.

Well there is one possibility here that we need to consider...

WHAT IF... these scientists know something we don't know?

What if there is a coming solar storm that could impact all life on earth and the GMO crops are being created to survive this storm? The doomsday seed vault in Norway to house the heirloom seeds? The chemtrails to block this storm? And the LEO seeding to use HAARP to replace or assist our faltering magnetic shield?

I know for a fact that the HAARP network around the globe CAN put up a shield, possibly planetary wide. The EISCAT team (European "HAARP" even went so far as to publish that this technology could also be used on spaceships (like the Star Trek shields) I have the article somewhere... it was at an EISCAT website and the cover of a Journal showing the possible field they could generate if Earth's magnetic field failed (perhaps due to magnetic pole shift)

This image is from NASA....



We already had a HUGE hole in the magnetoshpere

Huge Hole Found on Earth's Magnetic Field, Run Around In Panic Now

NASA's Themis, a satellite flotilla studying geomagnetic disturbances, have discovered a large hole on Earth's magnetic field, which protects us against solar particles, which can cause severe disturbances in power grids, computers, and communication. Updated.



    What we observed was the breach in the levee. This has taken us completely by surprise. The opening was huge - four times wider than Earth itself, this kind of influx is an order of magnitude greater than what we thought was possible.

That's what Jimmy Raeder, a University of New Hampshire physicist says, but but don't fret, dear readers, because according to Marit Oieroset-Professor of the University of California at Berkeley- even while "it was growing rather fast" the hole only lasted for an hour. During that time, the amount of solar wind getting into the Earth's surface was twenty times higher than usual.

Huge Hole Found on Earth's Magnetic Field, Run Around In Panic NowThe news here is that while scientists thought that the solar breach happened when the Earth's and the sun magnetic fields were in opposite directions, the data gathered from Themis has found exactly the opposite. In other words: These people really don't have a clue! RUN TO THE SHELTERS NOW! [AP]

http://gizmodo.com/5112096/huge-hole-found-on-earths-magnetic-field-run-around-in-panic-now

Giant Breach in Earth's Magnetic Field Discovered  Dec 2008

Dec. 16, 2008: NASA's five THEMIS spacecraft have discovered a breach in Earth's magnetic field ten times larger than anything previously thought to exist. Solar wind can flow in through the opening to "load up" the magnetosphere for powerful geomagnetic storms. But the breach itself is not the biggest surprise. Researchers are even more amazed at the strange and unexpected way it forms, overturning long-held ideas of space physics.

"At first I didn't believe it," says THEMIS project scientist David Sibeck of the Goddard Space Flight Center. "This finding fundamentally alters our understanding of the solar wind-magnetosphere interaction."

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/16dec_giantbreach/

You might also want to look at this thread. Seeding LEO with rockets loaded with barium etc

NAVY and NASA - The REAL "Chemtrails"

[sky otter]

WHAT IF... these scientists know something we don't know?

the question i have been asking for years is..what is it they don't want us to see..

are they up there practicing their shooting
are they little green men tossing stuff


when i got my first digital i was out there every full moon taking pictures and a lot of other times
and i got some very interesting things

but since  maybe 08 (?) i haven't even been able to watch a meteor shower...it is always
'clouded'  over..most times it is chemtrails from that day/s
so it's not an accident of timing

sigh..then i ask..do we want to know what they know.. or not...

personally i say we do.....

but i'm not sure who i would share that info with
certainly not my 91 yr old mother
crap.!  !  ! 

[The Matrix Traveller]

I wonder WHY this Phenomena has appeared to Stop in NZ ?

Mind you I am NOT complaining.....   

Very Clear Skies down under, here in Kiwi Land. 

[Phedre]

I am in NE Ore. It has gotten much worse. They run day and night. Thank you Zorgon, after a while I feel like  it's just my "ly'in" eyes that are the problem. 


Re: What if they know something we don't.  When exactly have they made things better? 

[zorgon]

Very Clear Skies down under, here in Kiwi Land. 

Got a spare room?

[The Matrix Traveller]

Only 4.5 million people, a few Bobbitt's here, and about 60 million + Sheep, with about 6.5 Million dairy Cows..

But the Skies are Clear and a lot of activity seen at night in our skies.   


And NO "Chemtrails" but I would still like to know WHY they Stopped in the Late 1990's.
As I said we did have them earlier on ? ? ?

[zorgon]

Maybe they stopped on NZ because there are mainly only SHEEP...

But then most in the USA are SHEEP too

[The Matrix Traveller]

LOL...

We could do with even less people, and more sheep, or even deer as I enjoy hunting deer,
and enjoy a bit of Venison now and then..

and as for less People, less Problems then.   

[zorgon]

well  no problem..

Just open a transport interface and disguise it as something else and have them walk in

[Littleenki]

well  no problem..

Just open a transport interface and disguise it as something else and have them walk in

Indeed, Zorgon, great idea..John, youll need a much bigger one though, Ill need to bring a few friends with me to NZ when you open that interface and we all jump in to come see you!   

In Florida they have a harder time pinpointing them due to the strong E-W seabreezes, and often I watch the planes shift their flight path in ridiculous maneuvers to get the trails back on track.

It looks like a 6 month old baby using an etch a sketch.

Great thread BTW Zorgon!

Le