Massive underwater entrance off the coast of Malibu CA.

[ArMaP]

Are You certain that They only compile acoustical data from one spot directly downward?

No, I cannot be certain of that, obviously, but what I am certain is that the first method used was the original method of sending down a weighted line and measure and much of it they had to send until it reached the bottom of the ocean on that part. Then they moved the ship a little and did it again.

From the little I know about this, even acoustical data was gathered vertically, I think just in the last 10 years or so they have been using newer and more sophisticated methods, but I don't know if they get real 3D data that would allow, for example, so "see" underwater caves.

I would think that by now, given all the computing genius We are displaying on this planet, that more data could be handled.

More data can be handled, the problem is getting that data.

Add to that lasers from space doing mapping - not saying someOne is, but that We surely have that capability - I have to guess that We have have more data available than straight down only.

Lasers are not that good in the water, sound is better.

Now ArMaP, You know (I presume, since I have said it before on ATS and here) that it is out of respect for Humans as "God" and a Conscious choice I make that I do that.  No need to be disparaging.  [smile]

It was not meant as disparaging, I just thought it interesting that thorfourwinds used a similar way of writing.

Also, there are (in my opinion) much better ways to show respect for humans (or other creatures) without the need to use different ways of writing.

[Amaterasu]

No, I cannot be certain of that, obviously, but what I am certain is that the first method used was the original method of sending down a weighted line and measure and much of it they had to send until it reached the bottom of the ocean on that part. Then they moved the ship a little and did it again.

And We know know that We do it far differently now. 

From the little I know about this, even acoustical data was gathered vertically, I think just in the last 10 years or so they have been using newer and more sophisticated methods, but I don't know if they get real 3D data that would allow, for example, so "see" underwater caves.

A sonar signal gives data which are much wider in scope than merely straight down.  And I bet We have had stuff that could at least peer some way into caves under water for more than the official 10 years.  Just sayin'.  I note You dropped My observation that a door can be seen in the back of the opening...  Didn't touch it at all.  [smile]

More data can be handled, the problem is getting that data.

Well, true, but I suspect enough data is getting through than to give only a straight down mapping.

Lasers are not that good in the water, sound is better.

Fair enough, but it may be They have something more exotic, on the order of gravity waves (not saying specifically GW, but on that order...).  It's not out of the realm of possibility...

It was not meant as disparaging, I just thought it interesting that thorfourwinds used a similar way of writing.

Um...  That's why You referred to the behavior as being a "virus..."  An illness.  A sickness.  Not disparaging?

Also, there are (in my opinion) much better ways to show respect for humans (or other creatures) without the need to use different ways of writing.

Do You imply I do not express this in OTHER ways?  This is one way I use, an effective way to bring that out in print.  A good way to help in getting People to think in those terms at all.  It is My choice and I am pleased with its effects and so I choose to continue.  [smile]

[ArMaP]

And We know know that We do it far differently now.

Obviously.

A sonar signal gives data which are much wider in scope than merely straight down.

That depends on where they point it.
I think they now use more than one direction at the same time (computers now can handle that without any problem), but to have a perfect 3D representation they still have to "look" at the target from all sides, so something like that "plateau" should be "looked at" from at least above and two sides, to give a real 3D information of that place.

And I bet We have had stuff that could at least peer some way into caves under water for more than the official 10 years.  Just sayin'.

No betting.

I note You dropped My observation that a door can be seen in the back of the opening...  Didn't touch it at all.  [smile]

Because it's based on what I think is data that is not good enough. If you look close at the 3D representation you will see many typical signs of averaging of data or "jumping" from one data point to the next because there isn't any data for the area in between.

Well, true, but I suspect enough data is getting through than to give only a straight down mapping.

I don't work with suspicions and bets, only data.

Fair enough, but it may be They have something more exotic, on the order of gravity waves (not saying specifically GW, but on that order...).  It's not out of the realm of possibility...

See above.

Um...  That's why You referred to the behavior as being a "virus..."  An illness.  A sickness.  Not disparaging?

No, as we don't use it like that in Portugal, we use in the same way as copying a habit from someone else.

Do You imply I do not express this in OTHER ways?

No, just that changing letters doesn't show respect, it only makes the text look strange.

This is one way I use, an effective way to bring that out in print.

It's not effective to me.

A good way to help in getting People to think in those terms at all.

To me it only makes me think that you are just trying to look different.

It is My choice and I am pleased with its effects and so I choose to continue.  [smile]

You're right, it's your choice, in the same way I can interpret that in any way I choose.

[Amaterasu]

I think they now use more than one direction at the same time (computers now can handle that without any problem), but to have a perfect 3D representation they still have to "look" at the target from all sides, so something like that "plateau" should be "looked at" from at least above and two sides, to give a real 3D information of that place.

It was My point "they now use more than one direction at the same time (computers now can handle that without any problem)" when I said "I would think that by now, given all the computing genius We are displaying on this planet, that more data could be handled."

Hardly necessary to have perfect 3D.  Indentations need to be probed by very little to have them stand out, else the tech is worthless.  And a ship moving along spewing sonar is, like the man-made-looking wall on the right of the opening(s), going to pick up whether there is a wall or an aperture pretty easily.

Because it's based on what I think is data that is not good enough. If you look close at the 3D representation you will see many typical signs of averaging of data or "jumping" from one data point to the next because there isn't any data for the area in between.

And yet I don't have to look closely to see the door shape, nor for that matter, the crystal clear neat line of collumns to the right...

I don't work with suspicions and bets, only data.

I don't "work with" those either.  Those are assessments of high probabilities based on data I do have.  Any question like that is one to find out whether You agree with the assessment. 

No, as we don't use it like that in Portugal, we use in the same way as copying a habit from someone else.

Fair enough. [smile]

No, just that changing letters doesn't show respect, it only makes the text look strange.
It's not effective to me.
To me it only makes me think that you are just trying to look different.

Not trying to be ("look") different - though what would be wrong with that?  I already AM different.

You're right, it's your choice, in the same way I can interpret that in any way I choose.

[shrug]  I have no control in Your interpretation.  I don't concern M'self much with it.