Putin to Western elites: Play-time is over

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

The generation that fought and won WWII doesn't exist anymore. They were willing to make any sacrifice, use any weapon to WIN. Sadly that resolve doesn't exist anymore.

Rock

[zorgon]

Putin says:  ", nations that are leaders in creating and producing high-precision systems will have a clear military advantage. "

Hmmm

Back about a decade ago, Russian were upset about American kids and video games... because they felt they were being trained to be the warriors of the future and since Russia did not have the money or the tech, they would be at a disadvantage...

Time slip to today....

...somewhere near Area 51...  a bunch of kids sit in really comfy chairs in front of video game screens and joy sticks



This is Creech AFB at Indian Springs  just outside Vegas on the edge of Area 51. These kids are playing war games using live and armed DRONES. These drones are "high-precision systems that have a clear military advantage"

Seems Putin is correct   

[zorgon]

[zorgon]

And you though kids playing video games all day was a waste of time...

[zorgon]

Some serious protesting out here at the base

[Pimander]

And you though kids playing video games all day was a waste of time...

We used to play soccer and ride bikes.  Kids do it sat in a chair now.  Bad news for your heart and lungs.

The habit of exercising is so important.  I don't dream of driving anywhere if I don't have to and cycle every day.  How many in the following generations will?

[ArMaP]

The generation that fought and won WWII doesn't exist anymore. They were willing to make any sacrifice, use any weapon to WIN. Sadly that resolve doesn't exist anymore.

Putin also talks about something else that existed back then, respect, probably because they saw the other countries as people like their own instead of faceless adversaries or enemies or even "friends":

Yes, many of the mechanisms we have for ensuring the world order were created quite a long time ago now, including and above all in the period immediately following World War II. Let me stress that the solidity of the system created back then rested not only on the balance of power and the rights of the victor countries, but on the fact that this system's 'founding fathers' had respect for each other, did not try to put the squeeze on others, but attempted to reach agreements.

[petrus4]

The generation that fought and won WWII doesn't exist anymore. They were willing to make any sacrifice, use any weapon to WIN. Sadly that resolve doesn't exist anymore.

Rock

If you are talking about the use of nuclear weapons, (specifically at the end of WW2) this is incorrect.  Truman wanted to bomb Japan as an act of revenge for Pearl Harbour; but neither MacArthur nor Eisenhower advocated its' use.

During his recitation of the relevant facts, I had been conscious of a feeling of depression and so I voiced to him my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives. It was my belief that Japan was, at that very moment, seeking some way to surrender with a minimum loss of 'face'. The Secretary was deeply perturbed by my attitude...
        -- Dwight Eisenhower, Mandate for Change, 1953-1956: The White House Years, A Personal Account.

MacArthur once spoke to me very eloquently about it, pacing the floor of his apartment in the Waldorf. He thought it a tragedy the bomb was ever exploded. MacArthur believed that the same restrictions ought to apply to atomic weapons as to conventional weapons, that the military objective should always be limited damage to noncombatants... MacArthur, you see, was a soldier. He believed in using force only against military targets, and that is why the nuclear thing turned him off, which I think speaks well of him.
        -- Richard Nixon, The Decision to Use the Atomic Bomb and the Architecture of an American Myth.

[RUSSO]

If you are talking about the use of nuclear weapons, (specifically at the end of WW2) this is incorrect.  Truman wanted to bomb Japan as an act of revenge for Pearl Harbour; but neither MacArthur nor Eisenhower advocated its' use.

Was not Pearl Harbour tragedy used by USA as their own "Reichstag fire" excuse?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8932197/Pearl-Harbour-memo-shows-US-warned-of-Japanese-attack.html#

This BBC documentary details U.S. foreknowledge of Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor. Much more evidence has come to light since the 1989 - when this film was put together

[petrus4]

Was not Pearl Harbour tragedy used by USA as their own "Reichstag fire" excuse?

While I'm sure Pearl Harbour was pretext, I would question whether or not it was specifically engineered by the American government, in that particular case.  I would more likely call the attack a happy coincidence for those who wanted to enter the war; and certainly not one which they would have discouraged.