Ancient Indian aircraft on agenda of major science conference

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Ancient Indian aircraft on agenda of major science conference

Indian Vedic myths tell of ancient pilots flying craft around the world and out of this world. But some think the myths were true, and that modern science has it all wrong.




The Wright brothers were a little late to the aviation game when you consider that pilots in ancient India were flying aircraft not only around the world, but from planet to planet as well. At least, that's one of the claims scheduled to be presented at the Indian Science Congress beginning Saturday at the University of Mumbai, in a session titled "Ancient Indian Aviation Technology."

The presenters of the session are apparently serious in their belief that ancient Indian planes were not only able to travel across the solar system, but also "could move left, right, as well as backwards, unlike modern planes which only fly forward," according to one of the speakers, Captain Anand J Bodas, quoted in the Mumbai Mirror.

It's easy enough to fly around the Internet and find plenty of material from folks who believe we were visited by ancient astronauts or that humans had cracked flight much earlier than 1903. But the Indian Science Congress is not the type of gathering where you would normally find such topics on the agenda. Most of the other sessions are on topics more fitting of a university science setting, such as biodiversity, quantum chemistry or fusion.

The session is tucked into a symposium on "Ancient Sciences Through Sanskrit," with other talks on things like the "Neuroscience of Yoga" or "Scientific Principles of Ancient Indian Architecture and Civil Engineering."

The idea of mixing in a serious talk on ancient Indian astronauts with presentations on more rigorous research and science policy issues at a major science conference has drawn the ire of Dr. Ram Prasad Gandhiraman, a NASA scientist at the agency's Ames research center in California. Gandhiraman has collected hundreds of signatures from other scientists around the world on a petition demanding that the session be cancelled.

The petition also cites what Gandhiraman sees as increasing political attempts to mix mythology and science in India



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[zorgon]

Vimanas:
Ancient Indian Flying Machines, UFOs, or Sanskrit Sci-fi?
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/49ufo_files/03files2/Vimanas_Ancient_Indian_Flying_Machines.html

THE ANCIENTS
India
The Vimana's - Flying Machines
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/India_Sanskrit_Wings.html

Vimanas - Vaimanika Shastra
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47brotherthebig/03files/Vimanas_Mercury_Vortex_Technology.html

[zorgon]

Sanskrit shocker! Claims of 7,000yo inter-planetary planes shake up Indian Science Congress



Ancient knives so sharp they could slit a hair in two, 24-carat gold extracted from cow dung and even 7,000-year-old planes that could travel to other planets. Those are just a couple of the startling claims made at this week's Indian Science Congress.

The surprising discoveries based on ancient Hindu texts, such as the Vedas and the Puranas, were presented at a session on "Ancient Indian Sciences through Sanskrit," held for the first time in the history of the Indian Science Congress, which took place for the 102nd time in Mumbai on Sunday.


One of the more controversial lectures, presented by Captain Anand Bodas, a retired principal of a pilot training facility, was dedicated to ancient airplane technology. "There is a reference to ancient aviation in the Rigveda," Bodas said.

"The basic structure was of 60 by 60 feet, and in some cases, over 200 feet. They were jumbo planes," Bodas said. "The ancient planes had 40 small engines. Today's aviation does not know even of a flexible exhaust system."

The ancient aircraft could not only move in any direction, but travel between planets, Captain Bodas claimed.

http://rt.com/news/219851-india-science-congress-gems/

[zorgon]

Rishi has given guidelines to make planes'


A scientist demonstrates her project to former President A.P.J. Abdul Kalam during the Indian Science Congress exhibition in Mumbai on Sunday.

Paper on ancient Indian aviation technology claimed sages and scientists had written about aircraft-making as early as 7000 B.C

A paper presented on ancient Indian aviation technology at the Indian Science Congress claimed that an ancient Indian rishi had given detailed guidelines for making aircraft.

"Maharshi Bharadwaj has narrated guidelines to making aeroplanes. There are 97 reference books for aviation. In Brihatvimanshastra, he has given 500 guidelines," Captain Anand Bodas, a retired pilot and trainer, and one of the two authors of the paper, said.

The Maharishi, he said, defined an aeroplane as "a vehicle which travels through air from one country to other, from one continent to other, from one planet to other." He appealed to young scientists to attempt to make metal alloys named by the sage in his book, Vimana Samhita for plane-making.. Captain Bodas also spoke of the "jumbo" aeroplanes of ancient India. "The basic structure was of 60 by 60 feet and in some cases, over 200 feet," he said, some with "40 small engines".

The ancient Indian radar system was called, rooparkanrahasya. "In this system, the shape of the aeroplane was presented to the observer, instead of the mere blimp that is seen on modern radar systems," he said.

Bharadwaj's book, Captain Bodas said, even mentioned a diet for pilots — milk of buffalo, cow and sheep. Pilots of ancient India's planes had to wear clothes made out of vegetation grown underwater, Bodas said. He declined to comment on criticism that his paper was a Hindutva ploy to bring Indian ancient textures in the ambit of science

Another topic at the symposium was 'science and spirituality.' The speaker, a spiritual counseller and public relations executive, said, "In the 21st century, fusion of science and spirituality will happen because of the law of inter-penetration. It is great that we are integrating the inward with the outward." Science and spirituality, said Binny Sareen, a PR and media executive at Brahmakumari Global Hospital at Mount Abu."should be together because if we go into the roots of it, it is for peace, for laws for governing positivity in life.'

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/mumbai/first-man-to-build-and-fly-an-aircraft-was-indian/article6753840.ece

[Pimander]

The part that says "Pilots of ancient India's planes had to wear clothes made out of vegetation grown underwater, Bodas said," makes me suspect that the flight is a reference to the astral body.

The ancients thought of the subtle body as being of an earlier evolutionary (esoterically not Darwinian) stage.  They called it the vegetable body because they thought that stage of evolution was the vegetable stage.

[Somamech]

What a cool conference, at the very least it gets people thinking!

I was just reading this news article which brings up what some would consider skeptical point's, but none the less it also exhibits areas of thought that are also provoking and worth merit whilst also recognizing great achievements in regards to this very conference.

Is jingoistic science discrediting the astounding achievements of ancient Indian knowledge?

When concluding a public lecture on Einstein at the Indian Science Congress in the first week of 2015, Abhay Ashtekar, an Indian-born theoretical physicist at Pennsylvania State University and among the founders of loop quantum gravity — an esoteric mathematical approach to better understand gravity's role in the universe — remarked, rather bleakly, that it was no longer possible for human beings to entirely grasp the complexity of the universe by thought alone. "Today, without sophisticated ins ..

However, the applause Ashtekar drew, after his hour-long recce of 100 years of cosmology, was several decibels lower than the plaudits from a 500-strong audience for Captain Anand Jayaram Bodas, who 24 hours earlier, on the same podium, expounded on a 200-foot plane that was powered by 40 engines with "flexible exhaust pipes made of fabric and animal skin". The aeroplane, the ex-pilot noted "was just one of many common in the Vedic Age". He sourced his information to texts and scriptures origina ..

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